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Message 1569546 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 9:20:01 UTC - in response to Message 1569537.  

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOOOOOOOOOONING, JULIE. hope your feeling better today as I am, :)



Good Morning Grant, everything A-Ok over here:) My fictitious beer o'clock starts in about 7 hours...



can't wait until I can bust open another one. suffer suffer suffer. :))
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Message 1569548 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 9:23:52 UTC
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Well all its bed O'clock for a few Z's or a heavy power nap.
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Message 1569550 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 9:24:42 UTC

Night Grant:)
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Message 1569551 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 9:26:59 UTC - in response to Message 1569540.  

When I first started brewing Grant I tried a lot of different types of beers.

I found the paler ales, pilseners & draughts to be watery and bland without adding extras to improve them.

Brown ales of any type I've found just sit to heavy in my stomach and that puts stouts well off limits for me.
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I hear people say that about Guinness all the time, but I find it very drinkable. Now, it's the Scotch egg that sits in the stomach, but that's another story. ;~}

I find Old Engine Oil to be one of the best Porter style beers I've ever drank.
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Message 1569554 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 9:30:16 UTC - in response to Message 1569550.  

Night Grant:)


Thanks Julie
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Message 1569556 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 9:34:22 UTC - in response to Message 1569551.  

When I first started brewing Grant I tried a lot of different types of beers.

I found the paler ales, pilseners & draughts to be watery and bland without adding extras to improve them.

Brown ales of any type I've found just sit to heavy in my stomach and that puts stouts well off limits for me.
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I hear people say that about Guinness all the time, but I find it very drinkable. Now, it's the Scotch egg that sits in the stomach, but that's another story. ;~}

I find Old Engine Oil to be one of the best Porter style beers I've ever drank.


give me chicken frird steak with fries anytime western style.
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Message 1569559 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 9:38:56 UTC

I hope that your Saturdays comes quickly for you Julie.

G'nite Grant.

Yes Gordon, some people have no problems with those heavy beers while a more do.

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Message 1569560 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 9:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 1569540.  

When I first started brewing Grant I tried a lot of different types of beers.

I found the paler ales, pilseners & draughts to be watery and bland without adding extras to improve them.

Brown ales of any type I've found just sit to heavy in my stomach and that puts stouts well off limits for me.

Personally I found the lagers suit me very well, both in taste and body, but then other people do have different tastes to me.

Good luck with any style that you do choose to go with when you get around to getting that kit working buddy. ;-)

Anyhow, time now for a couple of rum'n'cokes.

Cheers.


You got me all excited here Wiggo.
I read all night about home brewing.
How many time do you spend for that ?


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Message 1569569 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 10:29:42 UTC - in response to Message 1569560.  



You got me all excited here Wiggo.
I read all night about home brewing.
How many time do you spend for that ?

Now that has me a little confused Mike, but I'll try to answer it the long way (just to be sure that I've got everything covered).

The actual starting of the brew in the fermenter takes me about 2hrs (1hr of that is just to sterilise the equipment).

Then the brew will take 5-8 days to finish brewing depending on the temperature you can keep the brew at (25C is best, below 20C the yeast can go to sleep making the process take much longer while above 30C can kill the yeast).

Bottling it will then take me about 4hrs to complete (that's using 750ml bottles, smaller bottles will take longer to do while larger bottles or kegs will be quicker).

Here's a video of the process that I use, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Py6IJd2sfM, though I use a double size fermenter so the ingredients are doubled.

As for cost, for the price of a carton of brand name commercial beer I make 6 cartons.

While where Grant is it looks like he has to do the whole process from scratch, you should be able to cheat like me by using a pre-prepared canned wort product (as I've used canned German worts here a couple of decades back), but a quick Google of "homebrew supplies" in your country should answer that for you.

I hope that helps to answer your question Mike.

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Message 1569572 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 10:49:45 UTC - in response to Message 1569424.  
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There's nothing quite like it really :)

Swan Lake?

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Message 1569573 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 10:55:21 UTC - in response to Message 1569569.  



You got me all excited here Wiggo.
I read all night about home brewing.
How many time do you spend for that ?

Now that has me a little confused Mike, but I'll try to answer it the long way (just to be sure that I've got everything covered).

The actual starting of the brew in the fermenter takes me about 2hrs (1hr of that is just to sterilise the equipment).

Then the brew will take 5-8 days to finish brewing depending on the temperature you can keep the brew at (25C is best, below 20C the yeast can go to sleep making the process take much longer while above 30C can kill the yeast).

Bottling it will then take me about 4hrs to complete (that's using 750ml bottles, smaller bottles will take longer to do while larger bottles or kegs will be quicker).

Here's a video of the process that I use, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Py6IJd2sfM, though I use a double size fermenter so the ingredients are doubled.

As for cost, for the price of a carton of brand name commercial beer I make 6 cartons.

While where Grant is it looks like he has to do the whole process from scratch, you should be able to cheat like me by using a pre-prepared canned wort product (as I've used canned German worts here a couple of decades back), but a quick Google of "homebrew supplies" in your country should answer that for you.

I hope that helps to answer your question Mike.

Cheers.


Thanks Wiggo.

This would have been my next question.
So do you use dry hop and dry yeast as well ?
And which hop is the best for Lager ?
I like it mild taste.

We have a lot of brewing sets over here.

I know about the fermentation process.
I would rather like to know how much time "you" need to make 10 litres for example.


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Message 1569574 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 10:55:38 UTC

Well, I just let out a yawn like a wild hyena banshee, so it's time for me to sign off, go home, and go beddy bye.
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Message 1569577 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 11:26:16 UTC

Thanks Wiggo.

This would have been my next question.
So do you use dry hop and dry yeast as well ?
And which hop is the best for Lager ?
I like it mild taste.

We have a lot of brewing sets over here.

I know about the fermentation process.
I would rather like to know how much time "you" need to make 10 litres for example.

With the canned worts the yeast (dry) is included with them so only sugar or dextrose/glucose is needed (I use dextrose as it produces a better and consistent flavour where sugar will vary and may cause a slight metallic taste at times, sugar will also produce much more sediment), the hops are already in the wort, but a variety of hop extracts are available if you want to change the taste and/or bitterness and lactose can be added to make the beer sweeter if you prefer that. Trying different brand/types of wort will be the only real way to find out what suits your taste preference (I use Coopers Lager worts myself, but whether you'll get that there is another story).

Doing it the hard way I think depends on the grains and extracts that you use as to what type of hops and yeast goes with them, though a homebrew supplier will be able to help you better there.

I do 58L double brews here (produces 6 dozen 750ml bottles) so those times I gave reflect that size though doing the smaller 29L single brew batches will mainly just cut the bottling time down, the rest will be the same.

I also leave my beer to age for at least 2 months before drinking (>6mths is even better) even though most say that you can drink it in 2 weeks, but it will be "green" and the taste will reflect that.

I hope that helps you out a bit more Mike.


G'nite Gordon, I won't be to far behind you. ;-)

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Message 1569579 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 11:42:17 UTC

Thank you very much Wiggo.

I know a little more again.

Have a good nights sleep.


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Message 1569584 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 12:08:06 UTC - in response to Message 1569569.  


While where Grant is it looks like he has to do the whole process from scratch, you should be able to cheat like me by using a pre-prepared canned wort product (as I've used canned German worts here a couple of decades back), but a quick Google of "homebrew supplies" in your country should answer that for you.
Cheers.

I wonder. Saw the video. But how do you stop the fermention before bottle it?
Decades a friend of mine and I made some beer.
All bottles exploded!
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Message 1569590 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 12:31:24 UTC
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I found these links Mike.

http://www.hopfen-und-mehr.de
http://www.braupartner.de
http://www.heimbrau.de
http://www.hobbybrauershop.de

I've noticed that what we call beer worts here are called beer kits over there (a beer kit here refers to a package containing all the hardware required to produce the beer with) and the worts are smaller than what we have here so they won't make the same amount as ours, but I'm sure that you'll it out. ;-)


janneseti, the fermentation process stops when all the fermentable sugars are consumed by the yeast. Using a beer/wine hydrometer will tell you when this process has finish (all details in the link), also over priming the bottles will cause them to explode too.

Anyhow that's enough for me tonight, bedtime.

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Message 1569602 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 13:08:42 UTC
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Good afternoon everyone! :) I know a few of you are asleep - so I'm in quiet mode so as not to disturb anyone... just quick coffee break for me at the moment. Glad to hear you're feeling a lot better Grant, and looking forward to Saturday's party Julie!!! :)

@janneseti - my stepmother used to brew beer and there were MANY explosions in the year I lived with her @;@ If I was feeling mean, which I rarely do :) I'd say she deliberately sabotaged the bottles she insisted "had to be stored in the twin's room" in the hope that they might sever a few of our arteries...

I think she suffered from insecurities :)
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Message 1569626 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 14:05:20 UTC - in response to Message 1569602.  
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Good afternoon everyone! :) I know a few of you are asleep - so I'm in quiet mode so as not to disturb anyone... just quick coffee break for me at the moment. Glad to hear you're feeling a lot better Grant, and looking forward to Saturday's party Julie!!! :)

@janneseti - my stepmother used to brew beer and there were MANY explosions in the year I lived with her @;@ If I was feeling mean, which I rarely do :) I'd say she deliberately sabotaged the bottles she insisted "had to be stored in the twin's room" in the hope that they might sever a few of our arteries...
I think she suffered from insecurities :)

Yes beer can be dangerous.
In our case I Think it was the caps that exploded.
This was a long time ago.
Anyway they were stored in a safe(!), cool and dark cellar.
I remember all that mess to clean:)

Story from a brewer I know in Skebobruk Sweden who met Keith Thomas working at BrewLab Sunderland.
Carbon dioxide can ruin good beer because it forms during fermentation and if the brewer then leans over the fermenter, he can get a carbon shock, faint and fall in and drown in the fermenting beer.
And that means the beer is ruined!
So be careful.

I just saw this! CAMRA The Campaign for Real Ale.
http://camra.org.uk/

Cheers and Skål.
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Message 1569664 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 15:39:56 UTC - in response to Message 1569590.  

I found these links Mike.

http://www.hopfen-und-mehr.de
http://www.braupartner.de
http://www.heimbrau.de
http://www.hobbybrauershop.de

I've noticed that what we call beer worts here are called beer kits over there (a beer kit here refers to a package containing all the hardware required to produce the beer with) and the worts are smaller than what we have here so they won't make the same amount as ours, but I'm sure that you'll it out. ;-)


janneseti, the fermentation process stops when all the fermentable sugars are consumed by the yeast. Using a beer/wine hydrometer will tell you when this process has finish (all details in the link), also over priming the bottles will cause them to explode too.

Anyhow that's enough for me tonight, bedtime.

Cheers.


Thanks Wiggo


Found that too.
Ordered a kit of Coopers already.


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Message 1569675 - Posted: 9 Sep 2014, 20:09:41 UTC - in response to Message 1569664.  

Ordered a kit of Coopers already.


Seti's micro brewery is about to launch on another continent? YAY!!! :) Evening everyone - totally forgot about the outrage today so was more than usually outraged... happy now though :)
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