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Message 1765179 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 14:54:33 UTC - in response to Message 1765112.  

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Message 1765289 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 23:21:11 UTC

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Message 1765356 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 3:54:23 UTC
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Message 1765876 - Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 23:50:32 UTC

Does anyone live in a neighborhood where some psycho kills cats? Mine got out, I never let a cat outside in my neighborhood, a couple years ago and my neighbor killed her. Then my other cat had cancer and died a horrible death a few months later. And I have not been able to stand the thought of watching another cat die, so I don't have one now.
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Message 1765951 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 5:34:02 UTC
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I think my cat would have done this, and maybe did when she wasn't pushing things onto the floor.

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Message 1765952 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 5:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 1765951.  

I think my cat would have done this, and maybe did when she wasn't pushing things onto the floor.



We have a cat who likes to push things onto the floor. Eric calls her "Entropy's little helper".
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Message 1765958 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 6:01:58 UTC

My cats used to wait until I was looking at them then look me right in the eyes then push something onto the floor. Then squint at me like saying "What do you think you can do about it?" There really wasn't anything I could think of...
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Message 1765961 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 6:30:44 UTC

Brewery Cats Inspire 'Working Cats' Art Exhibit at Empirical Tap Room

RAVENSWOOD — Cats have a reputation for being lazy, but members of the feral colony at Empirical Brewery are some of the hardest working felines in Chicago.

The cats, which have kept the brewery rodent-free for more than a year and also manage a Twitter account, were adopted through Tree House Humane Society's Cats at Work program, now the subject of an art exhibit.
Is there tryptophan in cat food? http://pic.twitter.com/5R3RuVfRWY

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Message 1765966 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 7:23:00 UTC

Some amazingly well fed kitties there.
Astoundingly healthy cats. Sturdy and well groomed.
Thank you for the links.
Tigger is looking at them with awe...LOL.
She really is............right now, studying kitty awesomeness.

I think the male tiger has her attention.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1766001 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 9:28:24 UTC

Tigger is reaching her end point.

She just came to me and stared, quite vacantly.

Her eyes don't have the spark any more.
I do not know how to deal with this.

She is still my 15yo kitten, and I cannot ever lose sight of that/.

She still wants to be with me. But no longer knows why.
She is just going on instinct.....which is a testament to how I have treated her for so many years. She is still coming to me.

She senses my love, seeks it, and cats do not do that unless they feel it.

There is something wrong, and she knows it.

She is nibbling now at the bowl of cream that I left for her.
So, her soul is still intact and as long as it is so, I shall keep and care for her as I promised long ago.

Pain is part of the keeping process.

You cannot have one part and deny the other.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1766003 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 9:37:28 UTC

I have never had a kitty live as long as Squirrel did.
I lost one before that, the original Tigger kitty.
I am not dealing with this well.
Not in the slightest.


I know what I should do.
I know what I can do

And none of the above is working for me so far/.
I cannot find resolution. I cannot find an answer.
I cannot seem to find hope. And therin is the biggest problem.


I may be reaching my own end point, not just Tigger's.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1766006 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 9:47:23 UTC - in response to Message 1766005.  
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My advice is to not put it off. Let her go at the vets, painlessly and with dignity, you owe her that for being a faithfull friend. Do you think she would let you know if she was suffering? Even a cat would try to protect their carer from that. Take the vets advice if she says it is time.

She is not suffering..I am.
I do know the difference.

I am in far more pain than she is.
Tigger is still OK with her life.

I shall know when the balance changes.

And I think you of all people can trust me on that.

I am a keeper of cats, and as such, I take that most seriously.
I would not trust the care of my kitties to anybody else.
That being said, I do trust my vet. She is a most amazing one, and only her advice I shall take.

Tigger will go back to the vet, and I hope that perhaps it's not that final visit. When her time is up, I shall deal with the pain of it.

But please know this..............
I am not going to let Tigger go until I am very sure there is no other option.
This, I promised her as a kitten, and shall not ever betray that promise.
Cradle to grave, I promised and shall fulfill that promise.

I am sure that I shall be able to do that when the time comes, and not an instant before that time comes.
Tigger is still Tigger, it's just that she does not really know it anymore./ But, she still has her personality, and keeps loving me at night, so, there is reason to believe that she is still not a happy kitty.

She purrs on my chest at night. That is instinctive, but assures me that her soul is still intact. Her inner kitty is still functioning quite well.

Sight may have left her eyes, but she still sees.
You cannot understand that, can you? I can.
For, I am the keeper of cats, and must know such things.

She is still Tigger. And I shall send her to the Rainbow Bridge when I sense that she is not Tigger any longer.

And she is not to that point yet.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1766007 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 10:22:36 UTC
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Don't kill your cat.
When animals get tired of living then they die.
You cannot give life and take death for your comfort, so you don't have the right to take life and give death for your comfort.
Your cat has always been your friend.
Don't kill your friend.
You will know when she is about to die because she will lose the ability to regulate her temperature.
That happens in people too.
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Message 1766028 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 13:57:18 UTC - in response to Message 1766018.  

Oh so you would let an animal die suffering in pain would you???

When animals get tired of living then they die.

Animals also die when they are ill, did you not know that.

Mark you have my full 100% permission to "educate" this person.

Some people just should not be pet owners.
Some of us know that this goes with the joy of having them.
And the pain..
Companion animals do not always 'know' when their time is done, and to allow them to suffer once they reach that stage is NOT compassionate.
That is our need to step in and help them once it is clear that there is no other path.
If anybody wold be so stupid as to allow an animal to just 'die a natural death' without regard to their pain and suffering, they possibly should be sentenced to that same penalty. Hope that is clear enough.

Their lives are precious to us, and they should be afforded the dignity to pass onward gracefully once their lives have been fulfilled.

And once some laws are settled, human beings shall also be awarded that same right. The dignity to die with grace.

I am sure that I do not wish to linger here, kept alive only for the sake of others, if it is clear that my time is done. There is not point in saving life for the only sake of doing so.

As to the other misguided person..............
I hope that this discussion can perhaps guide them to a better understanding of what and how and why at times, a companion animal must be laid to rest.

It is never an easy way out. Life is sacred, not to be taken or spent with abandon...
But, there are some situations in which there is no other way.

All of you need to know right now that this is weighing heavily on my mind..
And that the pain of doing so is possibly more than some of you can grasp..
And I cannot explain it further to you if you don't have some understanding from my discussion of it by now.. You are simply clueless and therefore unreachable/.

Hope this clears some things up, friend Chris.
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Message 1766038 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 14:18:47 UTC

And I know that my dear Tigger shall know peace when I have given her that...................
When, and only when, I know there is no more light in her little eyes to see me with. Then it is time. And she is approaching that state.

Life is not something to be taken lightly, but one must be ready to also deal with it's ineviitble end.......
I am not there just yet, but Tigger is.
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Message 1766044 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 15:02:14 UTC
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Dunno what to say.
The vet just called.
The lab confirmed her results.
Tigger has cancer.
And it is a very progressive strain.

Her only advice was to tell me to take it day by day, and cherish each moment as if it were the last with her.

I shall.................
I may not be around here much for the duration.

Tigger loves me, and I have to give her as much back as I can for her last days.

There are no keys on the keyboard for tears or sorrow, so I shall just have to suffer it and hope you understand.

I shall be back some day.
But not today.

Meowheartbroken.
Tears for Tigger.
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Message 1766067 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 17:36:10 UTC - in response to Message 1766044.  

Her only advice was to tell me to take it day by day, and cherish each moment as if it were the last with her.


Mark, I know you will do the right thing when the time is right for Tigger....

Sending Tigger a big virtual kitty hug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-zzb5jLLs

Meow!
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Message 1766082 - Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 18:43:06 UTC

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I'm sorry to hear about the news. My best wishes and thoughts are with you and Tigger.
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Message 1766190 - Posted: 19 Feb 2016, 2:21:58 UTC - in response to Message 1766006.  
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Tigger is still OK with her life.

I shall know when the balance changes.

Tigger will go back to the vet, and I hope that perhaps it's not that final visit. When her time is up, I shall deal with the pain of it.

But please know this..............
I am not going to let Tigger go until I am very sure there is no other option.

I am sure that I shall be able to do that when the time comes, and not an instant before that time comes.
Tigger is still Tigger, it's just that she does not really know it anymore./ But, she still has her personality, and keeps loving me at night, so, there is reason to believe that she is still not a happy kitty.

She purrs on my chest at night. That is instinctive, but assures me that her soul is still intact. Her inner kitty is still functioning quite well.

And she is not to that point yet.

I have told this story before, just recently I think.

When Nero was sick, I took him to the vet, my mother and I both knowing he might not come home. I took him in a carrier that is not your typical plastic box with a cage door on the front, it's more like a laundry basket with a second one inverted on top and two slides holding the halves together. I took the top half off and put it on the floor, and I took Nero out and shoved the bottom half against the wall, still on the exam table. The vet and her assistant came in and examined Nero, and we talked about how he'd been since his last visit, and I was about to say it was his time.

And then as I watched, he stood up and walked across the table and climbed over the side of the carrier (about as high as him) and settled down inside.

And I thought, he still has some spirit left, some will to live. I don't know if it will be enough, but I'm not going to deny him that. And I put the top back on the carrier and paid the bill and took him home.

I put him in a kitty bed in the living room and he stayed there for the rest of the day and evening. When I got up the next morning, I found that he had gotten up and walked across the kitchen, probably heading for the cat box in the bathroom. But he didn't get there. He was lying cold on the floor.

He is the only one of the six cats in my life that died on his own. I do not regret this. All the others were sent along when it was obvious it was time (Alberta wasn't my decision, I was still a kid). I'm sure I kept Baby for at least one day longer than I should, and I have some regret about that. But none for Nero.

So I do know, I think, what you're feeling, Mark. This is not an easy decision, ever.
David
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Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri.

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Message 1766193 - Posted: 19 Feb 2016, 2:39:24 UTC - in response to Message 1766001.  
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Mark,

May God bless you and Tigger, and may He be with you and
comfort you in your time of loss.
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