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Message 1571316 - Posted: 13 Sep 2014, 4:04:46 UTC - in response to Message 1571156.  

Ooops We did a mistake.
To bad to sad.
Sorry


Now fire that missile that will get those pesky Australians off our back when they see what fire power we have ...


Hey Putin kiss my A^&% ASS Plenty of time to get out of the city and far enough away not to worry to much about your I.C.B.M and we can rebuild no worry's
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Message 1573273 - Posted: 17 Sep 2014, 16:31:27 UTC

The fraud investigation company Wifka in Germany has been charged with investigating the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17. Their client is providing 30 million dollars as a reward for information and evidence
http://www.wifka.de/who-shot-down-mh17-30-million-dollars-reward-for-information.html
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Message 1580863 - Posted: 2 Oct 2014, 8:21:54 UTC

The website of Russian TV channel REN TV has been using images of victims of the MH17 Malaysian airline disaster to illustrate reports about the alleged discovery of "mass graves" in east Ukraine.
Disgusting:(!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/monitoring/russian-tv-uses-crash-pictures-in-mass-grave-report

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Message 1584102 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 19:03:54 UTC - in response to Message 1580956.  

Update.

Malaysia Airlines MH17 passenger had oxygen mask on — Dutch Foreign Minister

DUTCH prosecutors say the body of an Australian who perished on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was found wearing an oxygen mask, raising questions about how much those on board knew about their fate when the plane plunged out of the sky above eastern Ukraine.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/malaysia-airlines-mh17-passenger-had-oxygen-mask-on-dutch-foreign-minister/story-fnizu68q-1227085259511
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Message 1584172 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 20:50:18 UTC - in response to Message 1584102.  

I read that which just goes to prove that "so-called" experts are not that expert after all. Checking back on many of the reports provided in this thread, the statement that "everyone was killed instantly" makes one wonder...
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Message 1584197 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 21:12:17 UTC - in response to Message 1584172.  

I read that which just goes to prove that "so-called" experts are not that expert after all. Checking back on many of the reports provided in this thread, the statement that "everyone was killed instantly" makes one wonder...

They were killed instantly on contact with the earth. A few may have been killed before that by shrapnel, but it takes a while to bleed out.
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Message 1584200 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 21:18:11 UTC - in response to Message 1584197.  

I read that which just goes to prove that "so-called" experts are not that expert after all. Checking back on many of the reports provided in this thread, the statement that "everyone was killed instantly" makes one wonder...

They were killed instantly on contact with the earth. A few may have been killed before that by shrapnel, but it takes a while to bleed out.

So they weren't "killed instantly" as suggested after the missile hit then...

...nice experts don't you think?
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Message 1584255 - Posted: 9 Oct 2014, 23:00:59 UTC - in response to Message 1584200.  

I read that which just goes to prove that "so-called" experts are not that expert after all. Checking back on many of the reports provided in this thread, the statement that "everyone was killed instantly" makes one wonder...

They were killed instantly on contact with the earth. A few may have been killed before that by shrapnel, but it takes a while to bleed out.

So they weren't "killed instantly" as suggested after the missile hit then...

...nice experts don't you think?

What part of expert is paid news shill? Can't offend the customer's sensibilities now can you?

OBW what does killed instantly mean anyway? 0.01 seconds? 0.1 seconds? 1 second? 10 seconds? 100 seconds? How long do you "live" after you heart stops in a heart attack? How long did they live at ground zero in Hiroshima? Does "instantly" mean PDQ?

How long does it take to stir the pot?
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Message 1584292 - Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 0:24:40 UTC - in response to Message 1584255.  

OBW what does killed instantly mean anyway? 0.01 seconds? 0.1 seconds? 1 second? 10 seconds? 100 seconds? How long do you "live" after you heart stops in a heart attack? How long did they live at ground zero in Hiroshima? Does "instantly" mean PDQ?

How long does it take to stir the pot?

Think you've stirred the pot quite nicely :-)
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Message 1584572 - Posted: 10 Oct 2014, 11:06:30 UTC - in response to Message 1584294.  

If you have Explosive Decompression. The entire INSIDE of the body, which is under pressure, explodes.

The EXTERNAL results are gruesome. Saw the results of an F5 Fighter Pilot.

Better for the family's to believe in Instant Death (possible), and not what their loved ones bodies looked like.


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Message 1593155 - Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 22:43:19 UTC - in response to Message 1584572.  

another report.

Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 possibly downed by another plane: report

Dutch prosecutors investigating the crash of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 believe the aircraft might have been shot down from the air but that a ground-to-air missile attack is more likely, a senior prosecutor said in a German media interview.

The Russian government has always said it has radar imagery proving the fully laden Boeing 777 was shot down by a Ukrainian military aircraft flying in its vicinity, but Western officials have never publicly accepted this scenario.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-malaysia-airlines-flight-shot-down-report-20141027-story.html
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Message 1593891 - Posted: 29 Oct 2014, 17:06:15 UTC
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Now US and Russia have "legal" problem to investigate further:(
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/28/us-ukraine-crisis-mh-idUSKBN0IH15N20141028

I know that is a lot of debris to sort out.
But some debris from the missile is there.
If found then it would be possible to determine if it was a BUK or an aircraft missile...
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Message 1594993 - Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 17:45:40 UTC

They are still collecting debris from MH17!
Remains recovered from Ukraine plane disaster site.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_NETHERLANDS_UKRAINE_PLANE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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Message 1598729 - Posted: 8 Nov 2014, 22:48:48 UTC - in response to Message 1594993.  

:((((

Flight MH17: Nine crash victims still unaccounted for

Nine of the 298 victims of July's MH17 crash in eastern Ukraine are still unaccounted for, Dutch Foreign Minister Bert Koenders has said.

He was speaking after a ceremony in Kharkiv as another five coffins with remains were flown to the Netherlands.

The Boeing 777 Malaysian Airlines was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it crashed in territory held by pro-Russian rebels.

The majority of the victims - 193 - were Dutch.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29966848
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Flight MH17: Nine crash victims still unaccounted for
Nine of the 298 victims of July's MH17 crash in eastern Ukraine are still unaccounted for, Dutch Foreign Minister Bert Koenders has said.
He was speaking after a ceremony in Kharkiv as another five coffins with remains were flown to the Netherlands.
The Boeing 777 Malaysian Airlines was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it crashed in territory held by pro-Russian rebels.
The majority of the victims - 193 - were Dutch.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29966848

It takes time to investigate plane crashes.
MH17 because of the war.
MH370 because of the vast area to look for.

I suppose the families want some explanation.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/mh17

Putin follows classic recipe for misinformation.
In the case of MH17 was done by Russian media sent out the most incredible story after another about what really happened with MH17. It was NATO that had shot down the aircraft, it was the Ukrainian military, it was actually a CIA operation in which the aircraft filled with frozen bodies before it was overthrown in Ukraine to blame Russia. Perhaps the most amazing version was that it actually moved it across the Indian Ocean lost MH370.

All stories utterly insane but created to represent both the noise and at the same time misleading. Independent Western media must take into account these reports and press releases and evaluate these as well as other information, which both takes time and effort while in some can manage to sow a seed of doubt. At this point at least had the Western media learned of the occupation of the Crimea and appeared more doubtful of the data. Even today, there are many that refer to some of the Russian versions, especially the one where a Ukrainian attack aircraft would have shot the aircraft, which is an absurdity I highlighted in a post on my blog.

The German intelligence service reported last week to the German parliament that it was pro-Russian forces shot down MH17, which has now been made to the German prosecution authorities launched an investigation into war crimes.

http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/foljer-klassiskt-recept-for-desinformation/
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Message 1601579 - Posted: 16 Nov 2014, 1:08:22 UTC

Reuters - Russian TV channel says photos show MH17 shot down by fighter jet

But the angle of attack doesn't match the damage.
And the "photo's" contain 2012 Google Earth images.
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Message 1601584 - Posted: 16 Nov 2014, 1:34:00 UTC - in response to Message 1601579.  

Reuters - Russian TV channel says photos show MH17 shot down by fighter jet

But the angle of attack doesn't match the damage.
And the "photo's" contain 2012 Google Earth images.

That's about what I expect.
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Message 1601596 - Posted: 16 Nov 2014, 2:03:47 UTC - in response to Message 1601584.  

Reuters - Russian TV channel says photos show MH17 shot down by fighter jet

But the angle of attack doesn't match the damage.
And the "photo's" contain 2012 Google Earth images.

That's about what I expect.

Scale is wrong too. Looks like someone didn't realize that the plane shouldn't be bigger just because it is flying. Of course when all you have ever seen is air to air shots but never a space to ground shot!

Some years ago I did get to see an actual "photograph" of a airplane shot from space. Was of a commercial airliner on the downwind leg on approach to LAX. The shot had been blown up to wall size. You realized that the wingspan was only a couple of residential lots. Just as if it had been parked there. Of course that is correct as it makes little difference if the plane is 899 miles from the bird and the ground is 900. So those photos showing a 40 acre wing span are pretty laughable!
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Message 1604115 - Posted: 22 Nov 2014, 18:41:48 UTC

Here is an update. Nothing new but I appreciate to hear what local residents say about this tragic story
https://news.vice.com/video/russian-roulette-dispatch-87?utm_source=vicenewstwitter
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