It IS, wish to exterminate The Jewish People, Hamas.

Your head is in the sand.

I thought you had a smarter brain than this post says

IS and Hamas where not around at the time that the peace accord was signed if i remember write . Hamas was in Syria and had very little to do with Palistine as they where to busy in Syria at that time

So you can't blame just 1 side but Israel must take it's fair shear of the blame for what has happened since then

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How does one defeat this Evil?

Translation: How do you defeat an idea?

Answer: Nonsequitur. An idea can not be defeated. Evil, an idea, will continue to exist as long as there are at least two humans.

You could slaughter all who think the idea you rail against, but the idea will still exist and someone else can think it at any time. In doing your slaughter, you have become evil yourself and will need to kill yourself.

Why don't you try and form a question that has an answer and not one with false presuppositions?

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Convince one side or the other that god really meant to give them New Mexico, or at least some of it. It's mostly desert, mostly hot and even better mostly uninhabited. Of course they would hate it since there would be no one to fight with over it ;)

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Clyde what misinformation so there was no peace accord ok got it

A jewish citizen did not kill there leader ok got that

Hamas was in power in the gaza and west bank ok got that

any other misinformation i missed

oh right it all the Palisinians and Hamas are to blame for everything ok got it

and i'm a dumb dumb hehehehehhahahahahaha ok if you say so

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Hmmm, Egypt mediating in Israel/Palestine issue?

The Fox in the Henhouse

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Hmmm, Egypt mediating in Israel/Palestine issue?

The Fox in the Henhouse

Can't read you link, it's BBC again.

Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser was a strong supporter of the Palestinian cause and he favored self-determination for the Palestinians. Even today Egypt maintains strong relations with the Palestinian Authority and it favors peace between both Israel and Palestine.

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Reuters version

Thanx WK:)

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Thats just mopping with the water still running. Sure, you can try to 'defend' yourself, but that doesn't tackle the source of the problem.

Also, what about the Palestinians? Don't they have the same right to defend themselves from Israeli aggression? From people who have admitted over and over again that they are not interested in peace, in a Palestinian state and the two state solution, and who in some cases have openly come out for plans that involve the destruction of Gaza and pretty much everyone who lives in it. From people who in the last conflict killed almost 2000 of them and laid entire city blocks to waste.

Apparently not because I've never heard you harping on about the right of the Palestinian people to defend THEIR homes. Its always Israel that is 'defending' itself against these supposed mass murderers (3 dead civilians) but when Israel does the actual mass murdering, you are nowhere to be heard.

Defeat an Idea? Who said that?

You did!

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Thats just mopping with the water still running. Sure, you can try to 'defend' yourself, but that doesn't tackle the source of the problem.

Also, what about the Palestinians? Don't they have the same right to defend themselves from Israeli aggression? From people who have admitted over and over again that they are not interested in peace, in a Palestinian state and the two state solution, and who in some cases have openly come out for plans that involve the destruction of Gaza and pretty much everyone who lives in it. From people who in the last conflict killed almost 2000 of them and laid entire city blocks to waste.

Apparently not because I've never heard you harping on about the right of the Palestinian people to defend THEIR homes. Its always Israel that is 'defending' itself against these supposed mass murderers (3 dead civilians) but when Israel does the actual mass murdering, you are nowhere to be heard.

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Thats just mopping with the water still running. Sure, you can try to 'defend' yourself, but that doesn't tackle the source of the problem.

Also, what about the Palestinians? Don't they have the same right to defend themselves from Israeli aggression? From people who have admitted over and over again that they are not interested in peace, in a Palestinian state and the two state solution, and who in some cases have openly come out for plans that involve the destruction of Gaza and pretty much everyone who lives in it. From people who in the last conflict killed almost 2000 of them and laid entire city blocks to waste.

Apparently not because I've never heard you harping on about the right of the Palestinian people to defend THEIR homes. Its always Israel that is 'defending' itself against these supposed mass murderers (3 dead civilians) but when Israel does the actual mass murdering, you are nowhere to be heard.

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How would YOU defend your Family/Country against those who wish to Exterminate those who aren't THEM?

The only thing you can do in that case is HIDE them, like we did with the Jews in the World Wars!

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Defeat an Idea? Who said that?

You did!

Where? Misinformation again.

Believe we can now safely disregard Gary's posts regarding what other's have said.

Is evil an idea?

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How would YOU defend your Family/Country against those who wish to Exterminate those who aren't THEM?

Yeah yeah, you have asked that question a dozen times now. You know my answer.

Why don't you answer your own question? How would you defend against people who wish to exterminate you. If your answer is self defense through the use of deadly force then you have justified the actions of Hamas as much as the actions of Israel.

How would YOU defend your Family/Country against those who wish to Exterminate those who aren't THEM?

Yeah yeah, you have asked that question a dozen times now. You know my answer.

Why don't you answer your own question? How would you defend against people who wish to exterminate you. If your answer is self defense through the use of deadly force then you have justified the actions of Hamas as much as the actions of Israel.

Well said Michiel.

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How would YOU defend your Family/Country against those who wish to Exterminate those who aren't THEM?

Yeah yeah, you have asked that question a dozen times now. You know my answer.

Why don't you answer your own question? How would you defend against people who wish to exterminate you. If your answer is self defense through the use of deadly force then you have justified the actions of Hamas as much as the actions of Israel.

-1 & here are the reasons why: -

The marriage & divorce between Hamas & Hezbollah

To an outsider looking at the current international scene as well as this thread, one can see quite clearly the Islamic intent to wipe Israel off the face of the map.

What makes anyone 100% certain that this is not their aim?

Just look at this so called world of Islam itself...

...to an outsider, they are Muslim & Islam is supposed to be a peaceful faith...

...Really?

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To an outsider looking at the current international scene as well as this thread, one can see quite clearly the Islamic intent to wipe Israel off the face of the map.

Intent is irrelevant. They can intent all they want, as long as they don't actually follow up on their intent, they are not doing anything wrong. And speaking of intent, what are we to make of Israel intentions when high placed politicians are openly suggesting the destruction of Gaza?

...to an outsider, they are Muslim & Islam is supposed to be a peaceful faith...

...Really?

Anything that creates an us vs them mentality can be perverted into supporting and justifying crimes against other human beings, be it faith or supporting a sports team. There are over a billion Muslims in this world. Its only a small group that makes a mess of things and an even smaller group that does it based on purely religious reasons.

Intent is irrelevant. They can intent all they want, as long as they don't actually follow up on their intent, they are not doing anything wrong. And speaking of intent, what are we to make of Israel intentions when high placed politicians are openly suggesting the destruction of Gaza?

So the past 67 years have been pure intent then? As for the politicians, nothing new there as the history of the world has already proven. Maybe they're taking a leaf out of Europe's history book & wanted the conflict ended once & for all? So far, the rest of the Middle East has not intervened? The question is...Why Not? (you can forget Egypt, they're only the Fox in the Henhouse).

Anything that creates an us vs them mentality can be perverted into supporting and justifying crimes against other human beings, be it faith or supporting a sports team. There are over a billion Muslims in this world. Its only a small group that makes a mess of things and an even smaller group that does it based on purely religious reasons.

That's a small comfort to the individuals on both sides that just want to live their lives instead of living in fear of a rocket or artillery shell landing on them. Or is the life of an individual not your concern but the collective is?

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The Israel we know today was born out of terrorist actions.

"Menachem Begin was called a terrorist and a fascist by Albert Einstein and 27
other prominent Jewish intellectuals in a letter to the New York Times which was
published on December 4, 1948." source Wikipedia.

Judaism has maybe 14 million followers worldwide, about the same as the Jehovah's Witnesses,
yet one lives in peace, and the other get's away with mass murder.
One can only assume that Judaism is a Warrior cult.

The Nazis were pure evil, but the Jews have taken more than a few pages from Nazi strategy and used them against the Palestinians.

The Jews live in peace. The Muslims live in peace.

Zionists live at war. Jihadists live at war.

Please use correct labels for your them calling.

Too bad the world can't sort those war mongers out of the general population and throw them all together into a room with slowly contracting walls.

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I used "one and the other".
Us only applies in a global sense, then there is no them.
Someone used the phrase

"one can see quite clearly the Islamic intent to wipe Israel off the face of the map"

which is not true.
The Sunnis and the Shias have enough problems, like the Catholics and the Protestants had.
A wealth of oil, and the weapons they buy, has had the powers that be meddle in the affairs of Arabs to the detriment of all.
Israelis will have to learn to be good neighbors starting with the Palestinians.

I would help if you gave us your definition of Palestinians, because in general in applies to all people born in Palestine before 1948, not just to the inhabitants of the West bank and Gaza.

And as there are ~1.6 million Arabs living in Israel, of various religions, I would argue that the Jewish people do live peacefully with Palestinians. They just respond to those Palestinians that attack them.