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Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I took it to mean that the previous post was "as clear as mud" I sentiment I echo. |
brendan Send message Joined: 2 Sep 99 Posts: 165 Credit: 7,294,631 RAC: 0 |
Here's the amino-acid sequence for human insulin from the GenBank database. Can you show us how to convert this into the appropriate quote from the bible? So, you claim there is a code, but no one actually has the code. So, basically, there is no code. Given the massive computing power already applied to analyzing the human genome, I think we would have already uncovered hidden messages. So basically you are pedalling a bunch of nonsense wrapped up with a bit of pseudoscience gleaned by having heard of ENCODE and Pubmed etc. Give it a rest. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24881 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Give it a rest. Which? the code or his fingers? |
brendan Send message Joined: 2 Sep 99 Posts: 165 Credit: 7,294,631 RAC: 0 |
Give it a rest. Preferably both. |
LanDroid Send message Joined: 23 Jun 99 Posts: 2 Credit: 1,619,667 RAC: 0 |
Johnney Guinness said If you spend 10 years of your life becoming an expert in the old religious texts, the code is actually written out in one of the old books. But I don't know which book they wrote it out in. Sorry, had to quote that again to giggle while scratchin' me head... But of coarse {sic}, as I said, I haven't cracked the code YET! But i'm almost there. Perhaps just one word will help: Apophenia |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
So, you claim there is a code, but no one actually has the code. So, basically, there is no code. Given the massive computing power already applied to analyzing the human genome, I think we would have already uncovered hidden messages. So basically you are pedalling a bunch of nonsense wrapped up with a bit of pseudoscience gleaned by having heard of ENCODE and Pubmed etc. Give it a rest. Brendan, There are a few hundred messages posted into this thread since it started. And Brendan, your the ONLY person that has actually asked an intelligent question about the science I have discussed in this thread. Brendan your the only person who seems to have an understanding of molecular biology and genetics. Therefore Brendan, your the only person here capable of understanding just how complex the science of genetic engineering really is. Therefore Brendan, you should also understand that there is really no reason why any scientist working in genetics would want to swap the letters around in the amino acid code!!! Brendan, why would any scientist do it? Why would any genetic engineer even think about swapping the letters around? There is no reason to do it!! Its the last thing any genetic engineer would think of doing. And that is why the code I am telling you about still hasn't been found!! Nobody has found the code because nobody is looking for it!! Brendan, are you interested in helping me crack the code? Send me a private message if your interested in working on cracking the code. John. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20383 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... There are a few hundred messages posted into this thread since it started... Yes, an amazing yarn... ... the ONLY person that has actually asked an intelligent question about the science I have discussed in this thread... Hey! So what about the rest of us? So far, no Science seen other than "complex dreams" of Bible code "somehow hidden" in science articles... All another conspiracy theory spin?... ... just how complex the science of genetic engineering really is. ... there is really no reason why any scientist working in genetics would want to swap the letters around in the amino acid code!!! "Complex" is not a description or any excuse for describing something as "Science". Note that Science strives for the simplest explanation and solution. 'Complexity' is in no way any excuse for anything in Science. As for the naming: Note that we use Human names that are completely arbitrary for the language used. For example, the letters used to describe genetics could well have been something completely different had some language other than Latin prevailed as the lingua-franca of academics. Or can you somehow claim there is a single language of some or all gods despite the story of the Tower of Babylon? ...Nobody has found the code because nobody is looking for it!! Are you searching for something real or are you merely chasing gold at the end of a rainbow? So, for your quest: Are the same texts to be found in all DNA and by using the same consistent method? Is that same code to be found in all cells? Why? Or... More Guinness? The real test is to write the first chapter of your book! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
KC5VDJ - Jim the Enchanter Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 81 Credit: 4,083,597 RAC: 0 |
"Linguistic professors at Bob Jones University, long noted for its intellectual rigor" This is pure parody. I may post it on facebook and see how many of the christian extremist insurrectionists go for it. I bet all the Bubbas will! Delidded i7-4790K (CLU/CLU) at 4.7GHz @ 1.310Vcore 24/7, 32GB DDR3-2400, Corsair H100i v2, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK, MSI Radeon RX 480 Gaming 4G, HX-650 PSU, Corsair 750D |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20383 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Or can you somehow claim there is a single language of some or all gods despite the story of the Tower of Babylon? Oooops! That should read "Babel"... Now, where is that Douglas Adams' Babel fish?... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
I may post it on facebook and see how many of the christian extremist insurrectionists go for it. I bet all the Bubbas will!There are several Facebook pages on this as well as scores of supposed forums. This site claimes it’s satire, and that WIT is not a real place. Not sure, but I’d be highly skeptical. There are many evidences of God, for those willing to reason. All of creation speaks of God. Could that be true that the WIT does not exist? How can that be as they are on the Interweb with a logo. IMHO it is an Atheist religion smear tactic. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34945 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I may post it on facebook and see how many of the christian extremist insurrectionists go for it. I bet all the Bubbas will!There are several Facebook pages on this as well as scores of supposed forums. Maybe you should've read the the 4th post in this thread Battered Up. ;-) Cheers. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I think we need a new thread called comedy. Johnny has always been one of the best. I have really enjoyed these pious and correct rebutals of this farce. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
I prefer the Sam Houston Institute of Technology !! Actually it's true that I once guest lectured at the Stevens Hoboken Institute of Technology. It was in Hoboken (New Jersey) but not usually part of their name |
Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4548 Credit: 35,667,570 RAC: 4 |
I may post it on facebook and see how many of the christian extremist insurrectionists go for it. I bet all the Bubbas will!There are several Facebook pages on this as well as scores of supposed forums. Hi Wiggo, your post is Very good. thank you! Wiggo Posted the following in: Message 1533183 - Posted: 28 Jun 2014, 11:56:16 UTC Wyoming Institute of Technology is owned by Corinthian Colleges, Inc. in which both are under legal investigations on both state and federal levels in the USA. Hi Wiggo, your post is Very good. thank you! Best Wishes Byron |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
ML1 wrote: Are the same texts to be found in all DNA and by using the same consistent method? Martin, Short answer - Yes. There is DNA in all living things. Some of the DNA makes proteins, and the rest of the DNA is an instruction set to "build" that specific living thing. Its the same code in people, animals, birds, fish, trees, plants, bacteria, etc, etc... Read "Central dogma of molecular biology"; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_dogma_of_molecular_biology Why? Martin, Because that is how living things work. The real test is to write the first chapter of your book! Maybe Martin, maybe I will write it out in a book. Maybe if I get time. John. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20383 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
...maybe I will write it out in a book. Maybe if I get time. If you have the will, and you have the conviction of Truth, then you will have the time. You never know, you may gain your own following and cult...! Could keep you in Guinness forever!! :-) Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
...maybe I will write it out in a book. Maybe if I get time. Martin, If I did write it out in a book, it wouldn't be for money. I'm not motivated by money. I will think about it. John. |
brendan Send message Joined: 2 Sep 99 Posts: 165 Credit: 7,294,631 RAC: 0 |
So, you claim there is a code, but no one actually has the code. So, basically, there is no code. Given the massive computing power already applied to analyzing the human genome, I think we would have already uncovered hidden messages. So basically you are pedalling a bunch of nonsense wrapped up with a bit of pseudoscience gleaned by having heard of ENCODE and Pubmed etc. Give it a rest. John, there's no code. No message. No bible in your DNA. Its just some crazy idea you have. Complex algorithms are used daily to look for repeating patterns in DNA. If there was a hidden code, we would have found it. And it doesn't matter if you swap the letters around. Math would find the repetitive signatures you predict. We haven't found them. They are not there. |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
What's up with DNA and g-d? Your Spiritual DNA (Written By: Joel Osteen). He is not just the all-powerful God. He is your Heavenly Father. You have His DNA. Imagine what you can do! I should have had DNA testing done then G-d would have had to pay my child support. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20383 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... No bible in your DNA. Its just some crazy idea you have. Complex algorithms are used daily to look for repeating patterns in DNA. If there was a hidden code, we would have found it. And it doesn't matter if you swap the letters around. Math would find the repetitive signatures you predict. We haven't found them. They are not there. I have to agree on various counts. And note there are various searches being done continuously by such as SIMAP. Regardless, there is great scope there for a book of some sort, even without any science ;-) Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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