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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
If i remember right Black boxes is a ozzy invention and i think they haven't changed much . I have a sneaky suspion that the reason they don't put these thing in them because of where they are stored on the plane and it mite make them to big and complicated Big? There are 2 of them in every plane http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10996400/MH17-Black-box-reveals-Malaysia-Airlines-suffered-massive-explosive-decompression.html |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Big? There are 2 of them in every plane yes i know there are 2 . 1 in the tail and the other under the front cockpit i think . As you can see they are not small so anymore stuff packed into them would make it to big . Putting flotation devices in them is useless unless that part of the plane braks up so they can float away and die might not be able to get out for the same reason |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Big? There are 2 of them in every plane Thats only a design problem not an engineering problem. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
yes you would think with modern electronics they could shrink it down and then do something but probly at the end of the day it's cash they don't want to spend . Seeing as the insurance company's pay the bills in the end and not the airline |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
yes you would think with modern electronics they could shrink it down and then do something but probly at the end of the day it's cash they don't want to spend . Seeing as the insurance company's pay the bills in the end and not the airline The costs are peanuts comparing to what Malaysia Airlines pay for the loss of 2 planes. Also 5000 employees are loosing their jobs because of this. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
First, I do not particularly ascribe to the theory that the plane has been landed somewhere and is being converted to a gigantic cruise missile. That is someone else's idea, but scary none the less. Another idea that has been touched on is a transponder that is in a location that can't be tampered with in flight and that sends out current GPS data at regular intervals so the flight path of every transoceanic flight can be tracked. Some countries already have a form of this but it currently isn't required globally. Every airliner already knows where it is at all times so it wouldn't be hard to make it transmit that data all the time. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Every airliner already knows where it is at all times But in this case MH370 deviated from the course and made a u-turn. Flying 5 hours in the opposite direction. AFAIK the only system that can pick up transponder signals in the Indian Ocean is satellites. And they did. Thats why the flightpath could be known by the investigators. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Janneseti you will find there are other reason they are losing there job . A story broke here about a female that was raped on a Malaysia Airlines this last week and the person that has susposed to have done it was a top official and union rep . Which tend me to lead there is more going on in that Airline than is being said . She tape the silly bugger while he was doing it with her phone . She said she was so shocked she just froze . When asked why she didn't stop him putting his hand down her pants and putting a finger in her . HER words |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19073 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Possibly similar situation to MH370, but this time small aircraft, reported to have unresponsive pilots. Flying from NY to Florida just keeps going but eventually crashes into sea near Jamaica, when fuel runs out. CNN - an unresponsive plane flying over Cuba. CNN - The FAA and NORAD are tracking an unresponsive plane that is flying over the Atlantic Ocean. WP - Unresponsive plane from New York crashes into ocean near Jamaica |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Private plane with unconscious crew flown 2,200 kilometers across the water before it crashed. https://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fnyheter%2Fvarlden%2Fprivatplan-med-medvetslos-besattning-flog-ett-par-hundra-mil%2F Two American F-15 aircraft were sent up to try to make contact with the pilot but could only note that the first boxes to the plane had iced again, something that may indicate a pressure drop on board where the crew became unconscious. Later came the task of two people seen on board, both unconscious, writes CNN |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
The search for MH370 Deep secrets New analysis and sophisticated mapping technology have narrowed the search for the missing Malaysian airliner FINDING two previously unknown volcanoes would normally be cause for celebration by those mapping the sea floor in a remote and little-explored area. But not when the discovery is part of the effort to find the missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370. The Boeing 777 disappeared early in the morning of March 8th on its way from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 passengers and crew on board. Despite an intense air and sea search of the Indian Ocean to the west of Australia, where the aircraft is believed to have come down, no sign of it has been found. map included with link. http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21615487-new-analysis-and-sophisticated-mapping-technology-have-narrowed-search |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30673 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
1000 possible flight paths http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-had-1000-possible-flight-paths-20140908-10dqlz.html |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
1000 possible flight paths From Gary's link: Shanghai: Six months after the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 the man leading the operation to find it has admitted that there are 1000 possible flight paths it may have taken before crashing into the Indian Ocean. Martin Dolan, the chief commissioner of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is coordinating the search, said his team faced an "intimidating" and "unprecedented" challenge as it prepared to launch a one-year offshore search operation that could cost up to $51 million. The only near certainty is that MH370 came down in a remote and inhospitable expanse of ocean that, at nearly 1.6 million square kilometres, is more than three times the size of Spain. Asked if he could guarantee that the plane's wreckage would be found, Mr Dolan told The Daily Telegraph: "I'd like to be that confident, but this is unprecedented. 1000 possible flight paths. The plane will never be found. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Remembering 239 people and their families. Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 mystery remains deep after six months (CNN) -- Six months ago, the story began as a puzzling news bulletin. A Malaysia Airlines passenger jet with 239 people on board had vanished from radar screens as it was flying from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. The disappearance was quite the mystery. Was it a terrorist attack? Was there a mechanical failure that led to a crash? Did the plane go down over land or water? Were there any survivors? We all figured the answers would come after searchers found the aircraft or its wreckage. Half a year later, it remains a deep mystery. No part of the plane has been discovered. Not one speck of debris. http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/08/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-milestone/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Half a year later, it remains a deep mystery. No part of the plane has been discovered. Not one speck of debris. They've probably found a lot of debris. But how can you say that it comes from the MH370? So here is the situation in the Indian Ocean. Sea garbage strangles oceans thwarting search efforts to find the missing Malaysian Airlines plane Most of the debris can found in the middle of the circles on the map. The area is huge. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Half a year later, it remains a deep mystery. No part of the plane has been discovered. Not one speck of debris. They will need a hell of a lot of manpower and money to get some proper results from their search:( rOZZ Music Pictures |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Half a year later, it remains a deep mystery. No part of the plane has been discovered. Not one speck of debris. buy the looks of the currents they have been looking in the wrong place for debis . They looked to the south but that map show's the current going north up the west Australian coast , so i wonder why they looked down south of the rescue area ? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Half a year later, it remains a deep mystery. No part of the plane has been discovered. Not one speck of debris. Just as I thought. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Same old stories, everyone knows something. Flight MH370: Captain 'killed himself and his passengers by switching off plane's oxygen supply Ewan Wilson is convinced that Zaharie Ahmad Shah locked his co-pilot out of the cockpit, de-pressurised the cabin and shut down all communication links before turning the plane around. Mr Wilson, the head of Kiwi Airlines, says he has examined all other possibilities but cannot arrive at any other conclusion than that Shah, 53, was responsible for the deaths of the 227 passengers and 12 crew members on board the doomed Malaysian Airlines flight, which went missing on March 8. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh370-captain-killed-himself-4263403 |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
MH370: Malaysian Transport Minister Says 58 ‘Hard Objects’ Found In Indian Ocean To Be Verified The search team for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 has found 58 “hard objects†in the Indian Ocean during the mapping of the seabed, Malaysia’s Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said Sunday, according to reports. The hard objects, which are reportedly inconsistent with objects found on the seabed, are yet to be verified for links to the missing jetliner. http://www.ibtimes.com/mh370-malaysian-transport-minister-says-58-hard-objects-found-indian-ocean-be-verified-1688458 |
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