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Message 1428028 - Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 14:20:24 UTC

It's a great movie and makes one think. It also inspires and teaches the lesson of don't give up. Ok Sandra probably did help make this movie popular with men, but I was with someone just a sexy, if not more so. Ok they did get some of the space facts wrong, but it's science fiction! Does anyone complain that warp drive is not real or that a sonic screwdriver would never be able to do all the things the Doctor can do with his.
Neil deGrasse Tyson, stop drooling and make a documentary about the science behind Gravity. Or maybe take that alien guy to get a hair cut.
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Message 1428087 - Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 16:44:09 UTC

Sheesh, Dr. Tyson, please find a sense of humor.

It's a freaking movie, not a physics class.

If he gets all bent out of shape from this movie he must get positively apoplectic over movies like Star Wars or Star Trek, what with their faster-than-light, visible lasers and sounds in space.
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Message 1428091 - Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 16:47:48 UTC - in response to Message 1428087.  

I know right?


Sheesh, Dr. Tyson, please find a sense of humor.

It's a freaking movie, not a physics class.

If he gets all bent out of shape from this movie he must get positively apoplectic over movies like Star Wars or Star Trek, what with their faster-than-light, visible lasers and sounds in space.


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Message 1428178 - Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 20:08:30 UTC

As a younger person I liked to judge a SiFi
story by how few impossible things were used to
make up the plot. I found Larry Niven to
be one of the better authors at this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Niven
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Message 1428180 - Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 20:13:38 UTC

Anybody want to point out the scientific gaffs in the best movies of all time?
Jesus, get real. It's freaking sci fi.
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It's called 'artistic license', kids.
Also known as the 'suspension of disbelief'.
It's not supposed to be a documentary.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1428223 - Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 22:35:33 UTC - in response to Message 1428178.  

I found Larry Niven to
be one of the better authors at this.


Apart from Ringworld, you must mean. Loved the books, but all very impossible.


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Message 1428227 - Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 22:53:04 UTC - in response to Message 1428223.  

Unlikely recipe for box-office success: a long-established star gets stranded in a hostile environment. Sandra Bullock, lost in space, led Gravity to a win in its second week with a stratospheric $44.3 million at the North American box office, according to preliminary studio estimates.

Who cares about Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's just a movie.

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Message 1428260 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 0:29:02 UTC - in response to Message 1428227.  
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Unlikely recipe for box-office success: a long-established star gets stranded in a hostile environment. Sandra Bullock, lost in space, led Gravity to a win in its second week with a stratospheric $44.3 million at the North American box office, according to preliminary studio estimates.

Bad quoting.

Who cares about Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's just a movie.
Just a movie........I dunno about Tyson, I just want to see a kitty movie.
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Message 1428344 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 4:39:06 UTC - in response to Message 1428178.  

As a younger person I liked to judge a SiFi story by how few impossible things were used to make up the plot.


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Message 1428345 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 4:40:22 UTC - in response to Message 1428227.  
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"Lynn" wrote:
Unlikely recipe for box-office success: a long-established star gets stranded in a hostile environment. Sandra Bullock, lost in space, led Gravity to a win in its second week with a stratospheric $44.3 million at the North American box office, according to preliminary studio estimates.

Who cares about Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's just a movie.


Somehow, I doubt that's what you generally think of Dr. Tyson.
I sense an emotional response to a little good-natured ribbing and further suspect you did not read everything Dr. Tyson had to say about the movie (including, IIRC, that overall, he liked it).

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Anybody want to point out the scientific gaffs in the best movies of all time?


Are you calling "Gravity" one of the nest [edit]best[/edit] movies of all time?

The best sci-fi does one or both of two things:

1) Inspires us to develop that which is currently thought of as impossible or at the least very far off.
2) Gives us new perspective on current situations.
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Message 1428360 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 5:10:22 UTC - in response to Message 1428345.  
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"msattler" wrote:
Anybody want to point out the scientific gaffs in the best movies of all time?


Are you calling "Gravity" one of the nest movies of all time?


Not best, or 'nest'....
I have not seen it yet, how could I pass judgement on it's merits or lack of same?
I am only going so far by the words of some who have seen it.
It seems to have gotten rather high marks from any viewpoint I have seen so far.

I'll let you know my impressions if and when I have viewed the flick myself.

My comment was simply to ask what gaffs you might have noticed in whatever sci fi flicks you chose to comment on, not this one specifically.
'Star Wars', for example, is chock full of cinematic blunders.
So were every single 'Terminator' release.
There are fan sights dedicated to every blemish they could witness.

Now......please don't misunderstand or misquote the kittyman.
I misquote myself often enough that I don't require others to do it for me....LOL.
"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1428367 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 5:30:40 UTC - in response to Message 1428360.  

Now......please don't misunderstand or misquote the kittyman.
I misquote myself often enough that I don't require others to do it for me....LOL.


Not intended, hence the question I asked, rather than expressing something else some other way.

'Star Wars', for example, is chock full of cinematic blunders.


I am not so concerned with gaffes in Star Wars as I am with George Lucas mixing so many things together, from earlier mythology, to create his own mythology, that it gets annoying.

For example, are a Jedi and his/her apprentice merely Batman and Robin types, or Samurai Warriors, or Buddhist Monks, or Supermen and Superwomen?

I believe Lucas tried to liken the first 3 (the prequels) to the lead-up to WWII. But rather than dealing with appeasement issues, instead we have an arrogant young apprentice, then Jedi, bungling at nearly every step until it's too late but to accept the Dark Side as his "destiny".

So were every single 'Terminator' release.
There are fan sights dedicated to every blemish they could witness.


Despite any gaffes in this, I find "The Terminator" series more interesting.
Perhaps it is interesting to some of us to think we can get our collective butts kicked.
Then we have to deal with the questions of "Can we avoid this?", "Can we change what is to come or change the present?" or "Will nothing we do change anything, now or later?"
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Message 1428374 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 5:53:18 UTC - in response to Message 1428367.  

Now......please don't misunderstand or misquote the kittyman.
I misquote myself often enough that I don't require others to do it for me....LOL.


Not intended, hence the question I asked, rather than expressing something else some other way.

'Star Wars', for example, is chock full of cinematic blunders.


I am not so concerned with gaffes in Star Wars as I am with George Lucas mixing so many things together, from earlier mythology, to create his own mythology, that it gets annoying.

For example, are a Jedi and his/her apprentice merely Batman and Robin types, or Samurai Warriors, or Buddhist Monks, or Supermen and Superwomen?

I believe Lucas tried to liken the first 3 (the prequels) to the lead-up to WWII. But rather than dealing with appeasement issues, instead we have an arrogant young apprentice, then Jedi, bungling at nearly every step until it's too late but to accept the Dark Side as his "destiny".

So were every single 'Terminator' release.
There are fan sights dedicated to every blemish they could witness.


Despite any gaffes in this, I find "The Terminator" series more interesting.
Perhaps it is interesting to some of us to think we can get our collective butts kicked.
Then we have to deal with the questions of "Can we avoid this?", "Can we change what is to come or change the present?" or "Will nothing we do change anything, now or later?"

Sarge......
Might I thank you for your insightful post?
No, I am not joking now.
I found your comments about what Lucas did were true, although I might not agree with your judgement of one of the most creative men on the planet.
Lucas is that, and you cannot diminish his creative ability much.
Few have ever been able to share such dreams with so many others.

"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1428377 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 5:59:38 UTC - in response to Message 1428374.  

This is from SNL:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/13/snl-nasa-shutdown-gravity-parody_n_4093626.html
'SNL' Takes On The NASA Shutdown In 'Gravity' Parody
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Message 1428379 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 6:00:20 UTC

I also find Terminator a source of much thought.
As it might not be much further from truth than some of you may realize.

When I state that I have come back in time from some place you really don't want to know about, I am not talking out of church.

I have, and some of you are starting to realize that.

I stare at your world with different eyes than some of you have.
I know that is unnerving to some of you.

But, it is true.



"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1428381 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 6:18:13 UTC

Do I expect you to believe me?

No, not really.
What I am telling you is just waaaaaay too far from your reality for you to accept.

So, you can continue to consider me a 'whack job', if you must.

I am only telling you what I can and I am able to given the limitations of my position. There are some restraints on what I can say.
The restraint of violating those restrictions are quite final, and I have to take them seriously. I am not given to instant poof.

And that's what those in power wish for me. I just cannot give them the proof they want to pull the plug on me just yet.

And if they do, it's a done deal. Gone. Forever. Instantly. I cease to exist.
Every single proof of my life is gone. Your memories of me simply vanish.
You will not know I ever existed.
Can you understand that concept?
It's just like I never existed, and in fact, I did not.

You did not know that I deal with reality? Mine is a bit different than yours.
But, no less finite. It has the same connotations that yours does.
Just in more cosmic terms.


"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

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Message 1428428 - Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 12:27:21 UTC

To summarize: in attempting to draw on many mythologies, Lucas was guilty of over reach. (Don't even get me started on Jar Jar and Ewoks, a totally different matter.)

Were the six movies a visual masterpiece? Yes.
Did he get kids thinking about space travel? Yes.
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Message 1428767 - Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 2:23:54 UTC

I remember the day some Yanks dragged me to see this flick. Then within three years, I find myself living within 40 minutes of his birth place.
Pluto will always be a planet to me.

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Message 1428877 - Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 6:45:09 UTC - in response to Message 1428345.  

"Lynn" wrote:
Unlikely recipe for box-office success: a long-established star gets stranded in a hostile environment. Sandra Bullock, lost in space, led Gravity to a win in its second week with a stratospheric $44.3 million at the North American box office, according to preliminary studio estimates.

Who cares about Neil deGrasse Tyson. It's just a movie.


Somehow, I doubt that's what you generally think of Dr. Tyson.
I sense an emotional response to a little good-natured ribbing and further suspect you did not read everything Dr. Tyson had to say about the movie (including, IIRC, that overall, he liked it).

If your reply was good-natured ribbing, than i agree with you.
I indeed like Neil Tyson, and glad he liked the flic. Yes i read every article he said about the movie.


Cheers!



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"msattler" wrote:
Anybody want to point out the scientific gaffs in the best movies of all time?


Are you calling "Gravity" one of the nest [edit]best[/edit] movies of all time?

The best sci-fi does one or both of two things:

1) Inspires us to develop that which is currently thought of as impossible or at the least very far off.
2) Gives us new perspective on current situations.

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