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Message 1175290 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 2:52:34 UTC

I'm attempting to achieve 1M in cobblestones on several projects, Moo will be the first one tomorrow I 'think'.

Not huge numbers by today's standards, but, non the less a nice number for me :)

I've read the posts and I'm not sure what app to run: I'm running Vista 32, with a 5870 (hopefully to be 2 when I can figure it out, lol, no rush)

Suggestions?

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Message 1175303 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 4:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 1175290.  
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use the lunatics unified installer its pretty self explanatory from there. You can play with the app_info and run 2 WU's at a time on that GPU. just and FYI... seti credit will in no way accrue like the Moo credit did


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Message 1175354 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 11:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 1175303.  
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use the lunatics unified installer its pretty self explanatory from there. You can play with the app_info and run 2 WU's at a time on that GPU. just and FYI... seti credit will in no way accrue like the Moo credit did


Thanks, much appreciated.

Yeah, I'm aware that Moo is probably the top of the line for credits but that's ok, I'd like to see how many projects I can use the GPU on to get 1M in credits. 1M isn't what it used to be any longer, lol.

I am a credit #$@%@ but at the same time I'd like to help many of the projects. :)

I'll check out the app you mentioned, many thanks.

EDIT: I found these applications. I see there is the Windows Installer v0.39 32 bit, which I was going to go with, then I noticed mention of Astro Pulse below it which now has me a bit confused on which to install. Any suggestion?
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Message 1175355 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 11:24:44 UTC

What the hell is "moo" credit lol!?!??!
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Message 1175356 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 11:30:49 UTC - in response to Message 1175355.  
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What the hell is "moo" credit lol!?!??!


That's short for the project name MooWrapper
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Message 1175361 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 12:29:10 UTC - in response to Message 1175354.  

EDIT: I found these applications. I see there is the Windows Installer v0.39 32 bit, which I was going to go with, then I noticed mention of Astro Pulse below it which now has me a bit confused on which to install. Any suggestion?

Your download link is to the pre-packaged installer, which includes all current Lunatics release applications for Windows - there's a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. Astropulse applications are included in both versions of the installer: you can choose to use them, or not, at the installation stage.

The separate, older, links below are for people who prefer to get their applications singly (smaller download) and install them manually. There are also applications tuned specially for the Atom processor. For most users the single installer package is the best route to take.
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Message 1175363 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 12:35:03 UTC - in response to Message 1175356.  

What the hell is "moo" credit lol!?!??!

That's short for the project name MooWrapper

Which, as a project name, is about as meaningless to the casual reader as it's possible to get (against some stiff competition, it has to be said).

Following the link doesn't actually tell us a great deal more about what science the wrapped applications are contributing to.

I wonder if we could set up a BOINC project to decode jargon like RC5-72 into Plain English - that would take a lot of computing power :P
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Message 1175365 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 12:43:34 UTC - in response to Message 1175363.  
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What the hell is "moo" credit lol!?!??!

That's short for the project name MooWrapper

Which, as a project name, is about as meaningless to the casual reader as it's possible to get (against some stiff competition, it has to be said).

Following the link doesn't actually tell us a great deal more about what science the wrapped applications are contributing to.

I wonder if we could set up a BOINC project to decode jargon like RC5-72 into Plain English - that would take a lot of computing power :P


There was already a project which did RC5-72 (pre Boinc)
Also DNETC was based on that.


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Message 1175366 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 12:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 1175361.  

EDIT: I found these applications. I see there is the Windows Installer v0.39 32 bit, which I was going to go with, then I noticed mention of Astro Pulse below it which now has me a bit confused on which to install. Any suggestion?

Your download link is to the pre-packaged installer, which includes all current Lunatics release applications for Windows - there's a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. Astropulse applications are included in both versions of the installer: you can choose to use them, or not, at the installation stage.

The separate, older, links below are for people who prefer to get their applications singly (smaller download) and install them manually. There are also applications tuned specially for the Atom processor. For most users the single installer package is the best route to take.


Thanks, got it and installed.

Thanks again.
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Message 1175372 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 13:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 1175366.  

Bummer :(

12/3/2011 6:11:20 AM SETI@home Message from server: Project has no tasks available

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Message 1175373 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 14:01:05 UTC - in response to Message 1175372.  
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Bummer :(

12/3/2011 6:11:20 AM SETI@home Message from server: Project has no tasks available

Just wait 5 minutes and 3 seconds and ask again, just because the wasn't any work available at that instant, doesn't mean there won't be work available an instant later,

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Message 1175374 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 14:16:17 UTC - in response to Message 1175363.  
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What the hell is "moo" credit lol!?!??!

That's short for the project name MooWrapper

Which, as a project name, is about as meaningless to the casual reader as it's possible to get (against some stiff competition, it has to be said).

Following the link doesn't actually tell us a great deal more about what science the wrapped applications are contributing to.

I wonder if we could set up a BOINC project to decode jargon like RC5-72 into Plain English - that would take a lot of computing power :P


While I agree the project name leaves something to desire, lol, I actually find the project's intent interesting, the RC5-72 challenge has been in process, according to this paper since 2002, and according to this WIKI Posting 1.836% of all the possible keys have been tested.

It's my understanding and I could certainly could be wrong, that is the encryption the U.S. government uses.

Maybe I'm just easily amused, lol. I've never been accused of being the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree :)
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Message 1175384 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 14:43:59 UTC - in response to Message 1175374.  

What the hell is "moo" credit lol!?!??!

That's short for the project name MooWrapper

Which, as a project name, is about as meaningless to the casual reader as it's possible to get (against some stiff competition, it has to be said).

Following the link doesn't actually tell us a great deal more about what science the wrapped applications are contributing to.

I wonder if we could set up a BOINC project to decode jargon like RC5-72 into Plain English - that would take a lot of computing power :P

While I agree the project name leaves something to desire, lol, I actually find the project's intent interesting, the RC5-72 challenge has been in process, according to this paper since 2002, and according to this WIKI Posting 1.836% of all the possible keys have been tested.

It's my understanding and I could certainly could be wrong, that is the encryption the U.S. government uses.

Maybe I'm just easily amused, lol. I've never been accused of being the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree :)

Correct me if I'm wrong (I've only made a cursory search of the pages), but I think what I got about RC5-72 was:

It'll take another 90 years at the current rate of progress to test all possible keys that might have been used to encrypt a single - rather banal, according to the solutions to RC5-56 and RC5-64 - test message.

As of May 2007, the people who encrypted the said test message will no longer confirm or deny whether a submitted 'solution' is correct or not.

Suddenly, the search for extra terrestrial intelligence seems a practicable and productive use of spare computer cycles.
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Message 1175385 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 14:49:57 UTC - in response to Message 1175384.  

What the hell is "moo" credit lol!?!??!

That's short for the project name MooWrapper

Which, as a project name, is about as meaningless to the casual reader as it's possible to get (against some stiff competition, it has to be said).

Following the link doesn't actually tell us a great deal more about what science the wrapped applications are contributing to.

I wonder if we could set up a BOINC project to decode jargon like RC5-72 into Plain English - that would take a lot of computing power :P

While I agree the project name leaves something to desire, lol, I actually find the project's intent interesting, the RC5-72 challenge has been in process, according to this paper since 2002, and according to this WIKI Posting 1.836% of all the possible keys have been tested.

It's my understanding and I could certainly could be wrong, that is the encryption the U.S. government uses.

Maybe I'm just easily amused, lol. I've never been accused of being the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree :)

Correct me if I'm wrong (I've only made a cursory search of the pages), but I think what I got about RC5-72 was:

It'll take another 90 years at the current rate of progress to test all possible keys that might have been used to encrypt a single - rather banal, according to the solutions to RC5-56 and RC5-64 - test message.

As of May 2007, the people who encrypted the said test message will no longer confirm or deny whether a submitted 'solution' is correct or not.

Suddenly, the search for extra terrestrial intelligence seems a practicable and productive use of spare computer cycles.


It wasn't my intent to ruffle your feathers or swing your opinion or anyone else, each to their own, bygones be bygones.
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Message 1175398 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 16:04:05 UTC - in response to Message 1175385.  

I don't think you ruffled his feathers. Rather I think he's amused that a project would intentionally and knowingly waste 90 years attempting to decode a message. A message that was supposed to have a $10,000 reward that the moo/dnetc/distributed people saw fit to give 90% to themselves and that the original creators of the test won't confirm the actual correct result seem a major waste of effort on everyone.

Want to decode a real message? try enigma. decoding U-boat messages and a couple of other secret message from WWII are at least interesting.

While seti doesn't have an end point it certainly is science based and even if it doesn't produce an ET signal at least we'll have some evidence that our galactic neighborhood is very quiet.


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Message 1175399 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 16:08:23 UTC - in response to Message 1175398.  

I don't think you ruffled his feathers. Rather I think he's amused that a project would intentionally and knowingly waste 90 years attempting to decode a message. A message that was supposed to have a $10,000 reward that the moo/dnetc/distributed people saw fit to give 90% to themselves and that the original creators of the test won't confirm the actual correct result seem a major waste of effort on everyone.

Added to which, I was amused that the 90-year attempt to decode a trivial message was deemed to be worthy of the highest credit rating in the known universe.
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Message 1175412 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 16:45:10 UTC

Let's get back to how this started.

I asked for an app so I could share my GPU among other projects.

I was given that information and informed SETI doesn't give the same cobblestones.

Someone else asked what Moo was.

I gave them the link to the project.

Then all hell broke loose, no one asked for an opinion on the project, good or bad. Someone wanted to know what it was and they were given the information. I didn't say it was the best thing since sliced bread and everyone should move over to it. Actually I didn't say anything about Moo other than giving the person who asked the question their answer.

Why on God's green earth did you feel a need to bash another project? If you don't like it, God bless you.
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Message 1175420 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 17:34:27 UTC - in response to Message 1175412.  

How about one of the mods locking this thread.

I asked a question, skildude and Richard Haselgrove were kind enough to provide the information I inquired about, I thanked them and the information they provide worked and was helpful.

End of thread.
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Message 1175422 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 17:37:03 UTC - in response to Message 1175366.  

EDIT: I found these applications. I see there is the Windows Installer v0.39 32 bit, which I was going to go with, then I noticed mention of Astro Pulse below it which now has me a bit confused on which to install. Any suggestion?

Your download link is to the pre-packaged installer, which includes all current Lunatics release applications for Windows - there's a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. Astropulse applications are included in both versions of the installer: you can choose to use them, or not, at the installation stage.

The separate, older, links below are for people who prefer to get their applications singly (smaller download) and install them manually. There are also applications tuned specially for the Atom processor. For most users the single installer package is the best route to take.

Thanks, got it and installed.

Thanks again.

You probably weren't to know it, but I actually wrote the code that drives that installer. Not all of it - I inherited the basic framework - but I extended it to include the ATI apps, and put in some other little usability tweaks as well.

We released that new version in somewhat of a hurry on Monday after a bug was found in some of the apps it installs. And then we had to withdraw and re-issue one of the versions, after a typo was found in our work. And all week, I've been scouring these boards for reports of errors and requests for help: I've done my best to respond clearly and helpfully, as I hope I did for you.

And then, after a somewhat tense and stressful week, I let my hair down, and allowed myself to poke a little gentle fun at another project as weekend relaxation. It didn't feel like, and certainly wasn't intended to be, "all hell broke loose": but if it read like that to you, then I apologise.

Let's just say that readers of this thread will now have just a little bit more information to base their computational choices on, and leave it at that.
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Message 1175430 - Posted: 3 Dec 2011, 18:24:24 UTC - in response to Message 1175366.  
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EDIT: I found these applications. I see there is the Windows Installer v0.39 32 bit, which I was going to go with, then I noticed mention of Astro Pulse below it which now has me a bit confused on which to install. Any suggestion?

Your download link is to the pre-packaged installer, which includes all current Lunatics release applications for Windows - there's a 32-bit version and a 64-bit version. Astropulse applications are included in both versions of the installer: you can choose to use them, or not, at the installation stage.

The separate, older, links below are for people who prefer to get their applications singly (smaller download) and install them manually. There are also applications tuned specially for the Atom processor. For most users the single installer package is the best route to take.


Thanks, got it and installed.

Thanks again.

You might want to rerun the Lunatics Installer, the SSE2x MB CPU app is a poor choice for a C2D, the SSSE3x MB CPU app will be fastest for your CPU,

<core_client_version>6.10.60</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Alex Kan
Version info: v8b2-SSE2x (AMD/Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSE2x Win32 Build 386 , Ported by : Jason G, Raistmer, JDWhale

CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Speed: 2 x 2404 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=4096K
Features: MMX SSE SSE2

Work Unit Info:
...............
Credit multiplier is : 2.85
WU true angle range is : 2.728908

Flopcounter: 10426874344720.768000

Spike count: 10
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish
boinc_exit(): requesting safe worker shutdown ->
boinc_exit(): received safe worker shutdown acknowledge ->

</stderr_txt>
]]>


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