Philadelphia:

I suggest you run the astropulse r.521 here since they give the best credits as of now.
Check seti server status if there is any available task.
Set your work cache to as many days of work you want to have in your cache.

Some says ATI driver 11.2-11,4 is the best I use ATI driver 11.9. Do not use 11.10-11.11 with OpenCl


Create or edit your app_info.xml so it runs 2 tasks at the same time on the GPU.

Here is an example of the app_info.xml that I use.

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<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096 -hp</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096 -hp</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
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Your app_info.xml might look a bit different. My app only runs on the GPU so it misses the Lines for CPU.

//TRuEQ

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TRuEQ & TuVaLu

Thanks a bunch Claggy & TRuEQ & TuVaLu.

I have to leave now, probably for most if not all day. I'll come back and re-read your suggestions and give them a go ;) I was hoping for some GPU WU's but got all CPU WU's, oh well, they have to be crunched too.

Very much appreciated, enjoy your weekend.

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SSE2x

Claggy, thanks for highlighting the SSE2x, I'm sure I'd have missed it. At your convenience, let me know if the changes I made were correct, obviously I think they were :)

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Philadelphia:

I suggest you run the astropulse r.521 here since they give the best credits as of now.
Check seti server status if there is any available task.
Set your work cache to as many days of work you want to have in your cache.

Some says ATI driver 11.2-11,4 is the best I use ATI driver 11.9. Do not use 11.10-11.11 with OpenCl


Create or edit your app_info.xml so it runs 2 tasks at the same time on the GPU.

Here is an example of the app_info.xml that I use.

_________________________
<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096 -hp</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096 -hp</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>
_______________________________

Your app_info.xml might look a bit different. My app only runs on the GPU so it misses the Lines for CPU.

//TRuEQ

Thank you for sharing all that information, it is greatly appreciated. I hope you don't mind if I digest all the information and get back at you. It's only 8PM in Phoenix but my batteries are worn out :)

Philly/Dan

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Suddenly, the search for extra terrestrial intelligence seems a practicable and productive use of spare computer cycles.

But that won't satisfy all those credit mongers.

And not that those are perusing "spare" computer cycles in the first place...

R

SSE2x

Claggy, thanks for highlighting the SSE2x, I'm sure I'd have missed it. At your convenience, let me know if the changes I made were correct, obviously I think they were :)

Yep, the app has changed to the SSSE3x app, and the times have come down a bit too:

<core_client_version>6.10.60</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Alex Kan
Version info: v8b2-SSSE3x (Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSSE3x Win32 Build 386 , Ported by : Jason G, Raistmer, JDWhale

CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Speed: 2 x 2400 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=4096K
Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3

Work Unit Info:
...............
Credit multiplier is : 2.85
WU true angle range is : 2.591619

Flopcounter: 10473321425573.945000

Spike count: 6
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish
boinc_exit(): requesting safe worker shutdown ->
boinc_exit(): received safe worker shutdown acknowledge ->

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Did you install the ATI GPU apps?, as you haven't had any Wu's yet, i assume your GPU is busy on other projects and your cache is full for it,

Claggy

SSE2x

Claggy, thanks for highlighting the SSE2x, I'm sure I'd have missed it. At your convenience, let me know if the changes I made were correct, obviously I think they were :)

Yep, the app has changed to the SSSE3x app, and the times have come down a bit too:

<core_client_version>6.10.60</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Alex Kan
Version info: v8b2-SSSE3x (Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSSE3x Win32 Build 386 , Ported by : Jason G, Raistmer, JDWhale

CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz
Speed: 2 x 2400 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=4096K
Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3

Work Unit Info:
...............
Credit multiplier is : 2.85
WU true angle range is : 2.591619

Flopcounter: 10473321425573.945000

Spike count: 6
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish
boinc_exit(): requesting safe worker shutdown ->
boinc_exit(): received safe worker shutdown acknowledge ->

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Did you install the ATI GPU apps?, as you haven't had any Wu's yet, i assume your GPU is busy on other projects and your cache is full for it,

Claggy

I have not installed them as of yet, when I got home last night I did the change to SSSE3, then went to bed. I'm up and at it again this morning (6:30ish here in AZ) and will install the app that TRuEQ & TuVaLu was nice enough to share.

You are correct, I haven't received any GPU WU's yet. I'm going to set my preferences to no cpu's to see if that will spur the project to sent some GPU WU's.

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Here is my current app file, should I just copy the other app file into it. I did take notice that suggested file has SSE2 in it VS SSSE3.

- <app_info>
- <app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <file_info>
<name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>506</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>AstroPulse_Kernels_r521.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
- <app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
- <file_info>
<name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <file_info>
<name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</name>
<executable />
</file_info>
- <app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>610</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>ati13ati</plan_class>
<cmdline>-period_iterations_num 20 -instances_per_device 1</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>MB6_win_x86_SSE3_OpenCL_ATi_HD5_r390.exe</file_name>
<main_program />
</file_ref>
- <file_ref>
<file_name>MultiBeam_Kernels_r390.cl</file_name>
<copy_file />
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

Enjoy your football Sunday.

Dan/Philly

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Here is my current app file, should I just copy the other app file into it. I did take notice that suggested file has SSE2 in it VS SSSE3.


<name>AK_v8b2_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>

<name>ap_5.06_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_ATI_r521.exe</name>

I think you refer to Theese 2 when you say SSE2 and SSSE3.
The AK_v8b2 is app for CPU which looks ok to me.
The ap_5.06 is app for GPU which only uses SSE2 and is as it should be

CPU running SSSE3 and GPU running SSE2

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TRuEQ & TuVaLu

Here is my current app file, should I just copy the other app file into it. I did take notice that suggested file has SSE2 in it VS SSSE3.

Snip

Enjoy your football Sunday.

Dan/Philly

You don't need to do anything, If you selected the apps in the Lunatics 0.39 Installer, then you have them in your app_info, as your app_info shows,
Once you have done a few Wu's with each app, and seen that they work, then you can tweak the parameter's.
Note: Only use Notepad to Edit things in your app_info, other editors put extra chacters in that break the app_info

Before then, please make sure OpenCL is available on your GPU, Cat 10.10 drivers were released with and without OpenCL support, if you haven't got OpenCL support then the ATI GPU tasks will error out.

Claggy

Here is my current app file, should I just copy the other app file into it. I did take notice that suggested file has SSE2 in it VS SSSE3.


<cmdline>-instances_per_device 1 -unroll 6 -ffa_block 4096 -ffa_block_fetch 2048</cmdline>
- <coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>

I think you could keep your file and just edit a couple of lines.

<cmdline>-instances_per_device 2 -unroll 8 -ffa_block 8192 -ffa_block_fetch 4096</cmdline>
<flops>209876543210</flops>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>0.5</count>
</coproc>


Edit your file where you find the <cmdline> to my suggested line. There are 2 such lines.

Add the line <flops>209876543210</flops> accordingly where it is in my suggestion.

And make sure you edit the <count>0.5</count> accordingly

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TRuEQ & TuVaLu

IIRC the ATI cards don't use or at least don't perform any better with a flop cmd added. If you look at an ATI app_info you'll notice no flop count at all

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

IIRC the ATI cards don't use or at least don't perform any better with a flop cmd added. If you look at an ATI app_info you'll notice no flop count at all

the <flops> entry isn't a cmd, it isn't there for the app, It is there for the Boinc client so it knows how fast the GPU/app is, if there isn't a flops value in the app_info, the server will use the CPU flops instead, leading to wacky DCF,

Claggy

IIRC the ATI cards don't use or at least don't perform any better with a flop cmd added. If you look at an ATI app_info you'll notice no flop count at all

Without the <flop> 1ap task says 24hours to completion.
With the <flop> I use in the example for my 5850 it says 2hours to completion

Ehhrm..

An I use a cache of 0.5days
Without the flop I get 1 task to run....
With the flop I get some more....

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TRuEQ & TuVaLu

and if you leave the flops alone BOINC will eventually get the number fairly close to correct. So you can attempt to mess with the flops or just let BOINC do its job

The only time I see any large discrepancy is when I reschedule WU's which I've had to do whole lot of in the last few days.

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Before then, please make sure OpenCL is available on your GPU, Cat 10.10 drivers were released with and without OpenCL support, if you haven't got OpenCL support then the ATI GPU tasks will error out.

Claggy

When I ran GPU-Z, OpenCL is not checked. Maybe a dumb question, but can I just check it on GPU-Z?

[edit] It was a dumb question, I just tried it to no avail, lol.

[edit/edit] The driver number, via device manager, is 8.782.0.0

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Before then, please make sure OpenCL is available on your GPU, Cat 10.10 drivers were released with and without OpenCL support, if you haven't got OpenCL support then the ATI GPU tasks will error out.

Claggy

When I ran GPU-Z, OpenCL is not checked. Maybe a dumb question, but can I just check it on GPU-Z?

[edit] It was a dumb question, I just tried it to no avail, lol.

[edit/edit] The driver number, via device manager, is 8.782.0.0

You'll eithier need to install the SDK (Big download, and you don't the profiler, etc), or upgrade to a slightly more recent driver that comes with the OpenCL driver embeded,

The Good drivers in my experience are Cat 11.2, Cat 11.3, Cat 11.5 and maybe Cat 11.9,

Cat 11.6 give me extra inconclusives, Cat 11.7 and Cat 11.8 have a high CPU usage Bug, and Cat 11.10 and 11.11 have another inconclusive/error Bug,

Edit: easier just to use Hal6000's ATI Driver Version Cheat Sheet and take the driver version that Boinc reports.

Claggy

the 5850 works best on 11.2 or 11.4 my 6970 is currently on the 11.9 11.2 and 11.4 just flakes it out

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Before then, please make sure OpenCL is available on your GPU, Cat 10.10 drivers were released with and without OpenCL support, if you haven't got OpenCL support then the ATI GPU tasks will error out.

Claggy

When I ran GPU-Z, OpenCL is not checked. Maybe a dumb question, but can I just check it on GPU-Z?

[edit] It was a dumb question, I just tried it to no avail, lol.

[edit/edit] The driver number, via device manager, is 8.782.0.0

First uninstall your old driver through "control panel"/"Programs and Functions"
choose uninstall the whole amd/ati and answer yes to uninstall the Ati/amd install manager as well.

Download new Catalyst driver from www.ati.com
You'll get to their recomended driver which today is 11.11
Don't choose that one.
A bit down on the 11.11 page there is a Choose old drivers.
That is the one you should click.

I recomend 11.9 that I am pleased with.
But you may choose 11.2-11.4 as they also work(maybe a little bit faster).

11.9 uses APP SDK2.5 for OpenCl
the older ones uses APP 2.4 for OpenCl

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TRuEQ & TuVaLu

I recomend 11.9 that I am pleased with.
But you may choose 11.2-11.4 as they also work(maybe a little bit faster).

11.9 uses APP SDK2.5 for OpenCl

Sorry folks for being slow about the changes, I've been very busy. Also, downloaded some more files and got all CPU ones, even though I changed preference to 0 processors, 0% of processors and 0% of CPU time.

I did install 11.9 and verified it with GPU, also, OpenCL box checked.

Next up, to change the xml file.

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