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How do I set up for 2 WU's Per My 460 GPU ?
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Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
I now have over 450 WU's in cache , I'm not sure if it will speed up the WU's any , BUT , Figured it might not hurt to try 2 wu's on GPU at a time... Step by step directions for this Dumb ol Country boy , Please ! |
arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
Copy and Paste this app_info over yours... Make sure that you are running the SSE3_AMD variety. <app_info> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>603</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>603</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AK_v8b_win_SSE3_AMD.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>astropulse_v505</name> </app> <file_info> <name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name> <version_num>505</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name> <version_num>505</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>ap_5.05r409_SSE.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cudart32_32_16.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cufft32_32_16.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>0.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>609</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>0.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>608</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>0.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>0.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>609</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>0.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>608</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>0.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x38g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info> |
Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
Ok... do I need to Back up My old xml file first ? In case two WU's at a time doesn't work ? Maybe copy and save it as appinfo_old ? |
arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
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Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
That will work, but 2 at a time will work just fine. I have my GTX460 doing one AP and MB at a time currently. But it will go up to 2 MB once I get through the collection that I got last week. Ok... suspend work , Shut down connected client , exit boinc , change file , re-start boinc ? do all this in that order ? do I need to reboot computer for it to work ? |
arkayn Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 |
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Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
No reboot required, just the first 5 items of your list. It won't let me paste over that XML File... even after I re-named it app_info_old I must not have the right program to do that... ??? Can you send it to me as a XML file ? I think I got it , opened it with notepad. OK It worked... running 2 on gpu now... Hopefully, NO Errors will happen ! THANKS ! You were a LOT of help ! |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
It really wasn't necessary to copy/paste. All you needed to do was change the <count>1<count> to a 2 In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Claggy Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4654 Credit: 47,537,079 RAC: 4 |
It really wasn't necessary to copy/paste. All you needed to do was change the <count>1<count> to a 2 Wrong, all that needed to be done was change the count from a 1 to a 0.5 (Changing the count to 2 implies 2 GPU's are need to do a Wu) Claggy |
Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
It really wasn't necessary to copy/paste. All you needed to do was change the <count>1<count> to a 2 Maybe I'm seeing the results wronge , but , it seems to be taking longer to do each WU at two at a time... by about a third more time total ??? before at 1 GPU WU at a time It seemd to take about 15 min per WU... Which should equal about 30 min for 2... It seems to take about 40 min for 2 now... or am I imagining it ??? |
Geek@Play Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0 |
No you are not imagining it. Running 2 at a time requires more time to complete. It is up to you to decide....... Is the total throughput of the work higher when running 2 at a time versus 1 at a time? Which setup completes more work units in say 24 hours? Something you must decide and then implement the best setup for your system. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... |
Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
No you are not imagining it. Running 2 at a time requires more time to complete. It is up to you to decide....... I think ( Maybe ) I was Looking at this wronge... It was taking about 15 min to do 1 Wu ( Cuda ) Now I am doing 2 in about 20 min total , at 20 min each , doing 2 at a time should equal out to avg of 10 min for 1... so it would be about 1/3 faster crunching ? LOL... OR am I totally crazy , and totally LOST.... LOL |
FloridaBear Send message Joined: 28 Mar 02 Posts: 117 Credit: 6,480,773 RAC: 0 |
LOL, you're not crazy. That's exactly the improvement I've documented before when going from 1 at a time to 2 on my GTX 460. Just relax and enjoy the higher RAC. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22216 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Such a "trick" doesn't work on a '250 does it? Must get a 460 and see what happens.... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
I think you figured it out there Floyds, it takes a little longer to do each work unit but with doing two at a time it is still quicker than just the one at a time. It will take some time for the difference to really show up due to the difference in the work unit times themselves but it will show up. The 20 minutes per pair sounds a lot more like it than your first post about 40 minutes. As Geek@Play said, it depends on your system. Some will take longer to do two at a time but most see a good speed up. With you running a GTS 460 you should have no problem at all and I might suggest, if everything works out ok, then you might want to try three at a time by changing those .5 counts to .33. Just remember you have to find six of them for a 64 bit system. ( If you have any problem, just ask your Company Gunny, he'll explain it to you! :-) ) Rob, the trick will sort of work on a 250 but you will find it to be much slower and more problematic than is worth the effort. It is mostly for Fermi cards. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
I think you figured it out there Floyds, it takes a little longer to do each work unit but with doing two at a time it is still quicker than just the one at a time. It will take some time for the difference to really show up due to the difference in the work unit times themselves but it will show up. The 20 minutes per pair sounds a lot more like it than your first post about 40 minutes. ( If you have any problem, just ask your Company Gunny, he'll explain it to you! :-) ) At My age ( 57 ) I would think My old Company Gunny would be in the Daisy field (But hopefully NOT ) by this time... Since it was over 30 yrs ago... :)) |
perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3377 Credit: 20,676,751 RAC: 0 |
At My age ( 57 ) I would think My old Company Gunny would be in the Daisy field Well, I was a SSgt when I got out in 77 and I'm still kicking sooooo. PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
my bad I should look before I leap and yes I meant to put 0.5 and yes you do not need to copy and paste if you already have an app_info In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
At My age ( 57 ) I would think My old Company Gunny would be in the Daisy field Glad to Hear That... :))))) Usually The Company Gunnies were the Older More experenced Gunnys, usually about a E-8 or so... which means he was a good bit older than Me... If I remember right , The one I remember would have been in his 40's then... He seemed OLD to me then anyway... LOL |
Floyd Send message Joined: 19 May 11 Posts: 524 Credit: 1,870,625 RAC: 0 |
[quote]I think you figured it out there Floyds, it takes a little longer to do each work unit but with doing two at a time it is still quicker than just the one at a time. It will take some time for the difference to really show up due to the difference in the work unit times themselves but it will show up. The 20 minutes per pair sounds a lot more like it than your first post about 40 minutes. As Geek@Play said, it depends on your system. Some will take longer to do two at a time but most see a good speed up. With you running a GTS 460 you should have no problem at all and I might suggest, if everything works out ok, then you might want to try three at a time by changing those .5 counts to .33. Just remember you have to find six of them for a 64 bit system. ( If you have any problem, just ask your Company Gunny, he'll explain it to you! :-) ) About how long running 2 at a time , before I know it will be ok to try 3 at a time ? Havn't seen any errors as yet , Not sure if the ones I have done at 2 at a time have been validated as yet... Got about 330 pending... LOL |
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