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Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0 |
Sharing folders works at home but I sure wouldn't share files on machines locate out on the world wide web |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Or you can try http://www.teamviewer.com/ to access/control the remote computers (you can do anything as if you are in front of the remote computer so you can start/use the GhostDet installed on the remote computer - only UAC have to be disabled to run "special" programs like RegEdit). To gain access you choose a password (from 4 digits to 10 simbols). I successfully used TeamViewer to connect to my daughters computer (From Varna, Bulgaria to London - the response time (lag) is ~1 sec) and install programs for her. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0 |
I'm sure any number of work arounds are possible but built in would be better not having to install Ghost detector on multiple machines things each user would have to do / create multiple times just install Ghost detector once & it uses existing files/apps |
Zeus Fab3r Send message Joined: 17 Jan 01 Posts: 649 Credit: 275,335,635 RAC: 597 |
Nice percentage, eh? HostID = 4188485 656 WU 'In Progress' 2 WU on board ------------------------ 654 Ghost Work Units (100%) [edit] The app. wont work unless there is at least 1 WU in client_state. [/edit] Who the hell is General Failure and why is he reading my harddisk?¿ |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
I'm sure any number of work arounds are possible but The way you want it (use what is shown in BOINC Manager's Tasks tab) requires complete redesign of GhostDet (not read client_state.xml but communicate with the running boinc.exe) I don't think ded1o1 will be eager to do it. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
ded1o1 Send message Joined: 29 Sep 07 Posts: 68 Credit: 10,834,919 RAC: 0 |
At the moment I've no spare time to update GhostDet. I will start a to do list but unless something major goes wrong with the program it will probably be quite some time before I action anything. Sorry about that. Very minor (cosmetic) bug in GhostDet v1.03 - Thanks BilBg, silly oversight on my part there, added to to do list. Please don't edit GhostDet.csv because, as you have noticed, there is no error checking on that file, GhostDet is just a simple app that I put together as quickly as I possible in order to get the job done. Could a computer select be added ? from the boinc manager - select computer Sorry Robert, reading client_state.xml is the only way I know of to figure out how many Work Units as PC has on board (in its cache). Because of this a computer select would be really hard to implement. And a clear log would be nice Added to to do list. The app. wont work unless there is at least 1 WU in client_state. Good point Zeus Fab3r, I originally did that on purpose as a safety mechanism. Upon re-thinking it, its probably safe to allow GhostDet to work even if the PC has no Work Units on board. I'll add that to my to do list. Nice percentage, eh?... Yes, currently just about everyone who has managed to report but has not detached/re-attached will likely be showing 100% Ghosts. Hopefully we will all get some Work Units in the not too distant future :) 724 WU 'In Progress' 3 WU on board ------------------------ 721 Ghost Work Units (100%) Visit http://www.mediafire.com/?yyy64lh5953d7 to download GhostDet v1.05 |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Then you have to think about "Divide by zero" check (in % computation) as if somebody have 0 tasks in client_state.xml it is probable it has also 0 tasks "In progress". Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0 |
Went thru all the hoops to clear the ghosts on one machine & guess what I've got more ghosts than before I detached it ain't worth trying - leave it for seti to fix |
Robert Ribbeck Send message Joined: 7 Jun 02 Posts: 644 Credit: 5,283,174 RAC: 0 |
At the moment I've no spare time to update GhostDet. I will start a to do list but unless something major goes wrong with the program it will probably be quite some time before I action anything. Sorry about that. IF/When you get time to update and are inclined I've created a hack to get the number of wu from my remote machines and then run ghost detector from a created state file If I can help send me a pm |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Until the database problems are cleared, the kittyman would request that you do not use this page scraping program for a bit. They are having enough problems as it is. Just a friendly request. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Do you still think that this program puts big load on BOINC database? If 100 000 users run it maybe but not if only 100. How many times do you look at your tasks (in a browser) or forum threads per day? In the last 24 hours you have more than 80 posts - this is more load on BOINC database than if you run this program once a day on every of your 5 computers. (the main load is from >200 000 computers which try to report and download) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Yeah, I do........just like I do when I wanna know my stats. It dogs the database. Any more questions? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Every forum thread you and I look at makes queries to BOINC replica database to display the stats (at left) for all the users that have posts. Did you ever run/try the GhostDet to see how it works? It only gets 5-10 results.htm pages (total 50-100 KB) no matter how many tasks you have. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
ded1o1 Send message Joined: 29 Sep 07 Posts: 68 Credit: 10,834,919 RAC: 0 |
... Glad to hear you have found a solution Robert :) I've been toying with the idea of using RPC to determine the number of Work Units on board, this would allow you and other SETIzens to easily check all of their PC's. It looks like the SETI staff are working on the Ghost problem and I'm sure they will engineer a solution pretty soon. I'd prefer to monitor the situation for the time being. I'll update the Ghost Detector at a later date only if the problem persists and it is still useful. Visit http://www.mediafire.com/?yyy64lh5953d7 to download GhostDet v1.05 |
H Elzinga Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 125 Credit: 8,277,116 RAC: 0 |
Since i added a second project i have this strange message: Server indicates less units 'in progress' than client state thinks it has on board ...aborted. |
ded1o1 Send message Joined: 29 Sep 07 Posts: 68 Credit: 10,834,919 RAC: 0 |
Since i added a second project i have this strange message: Thanks for reporting this H Elzinga. I've only seen it happen with old versions, are you using GhostDet v1.03? If you are using an older version please upgrade to v1.03 and that should fix the problem. You can download it from http://www.mediafire.com/?yyy64lh5953d7 I have made a few slight improvements so version 1.04 will be released once I have finished testing it, I'm running multiple projects so it will be interesting to see if I encounter the problem you have reported. Sadly, every time I've had a bit of free time to try testing it SETI's results page has either been down or "turned off", I'll keep trying and hopefully will get lucky soon. Visit http://www.mediafire.com/?yyy64lh5953d7 to download GhostDet v1.05 |
Gundolf Jahn Send message Joined: 19 Sep 00 Posts: 3184 Credit: 446,358 RAC: 0 |
That has nothing to do with the new project. The program just checks your SETI Results page, and since that feature is switched off, it gets a count of zero back, which is less than shown in your BOINC manager locally. Gruß, Gundolf |
H Elzinga Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 125 Credit: 8,277,116 RAC: 0 |
Since i added a second project i have this strange message: Yes running 1.03 for several weeks now. It did work in the the past. Had it set to automatic for some time. Would you like me to test the new version for you to see if the problem is solved? |
H Elzinga Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 125 Credit: 8,277,116 RAC: 0 |
That has nothing to do with the new project. Considdered that possibility myself. Eventualy rejected this as the reason for this message. Turns out that when cheking the new project for ghosts message is the same. This result page is online. |
ded1o1 Send message Joined: 29 Sep 07 Posts: 68 Credit: 10,834,919 RAC: 0 |
Yes running 1.03 for several weeks now. Thanks H Elzinga, good to know there's a problem with v1.03. Now of course the trick is for me to track it down. Could you please post a screen shot and let me know what other projects you are crunching for? Would you like me to test the new version for you to see if the problem is solved? Thanks for the offer, but the new version is unlikely to fix the problem you describe because I've not made any changes to that part of the code. I have tested it with Einstein and Collatz but since they do not create Ghosts I will need to wait for SETI's results page to start working again before I can finish testing. That has nothing to do with the new project. Gundolf, GhostDet detects that the SETI results page is not working or is turned off then displays a message to inform the user, it does not get a count of zero under these circumstances. Visit http://www.mediafire.com/?yyy64lh5953d7 to download GhostDet v1.05 |
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