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Message 1034896 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 17:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 1034887.  
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I was thinking that after they shuffle the servers around, and add Oscar, the need for an extended down time might be some what aleviated.
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If this would be possible, our (Special-)Donations would be a good Investment - for us also.


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Woah..

Not bad man, not bad.

I had luck and found a hole in the wall and downloaded >1,800 Workunits in the past 40 Minutes. Yiippieh..


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Message 1034912 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 17:46:08 UTC - in response to Message 1034887.  

...Everyone have his own specially problems.. ;-)


Yupp.

And i don't think that Oscar makes any Difference on this Situation.
IMHO the 100MBit Line in Combination with this 3-Day-in-7-Days Outage
is the Bottleneck. Maybe a 5-Day-in-14-Days Outage would be a better Choice for us.

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I was thinking that after they shuffle the servers around, and add Oscar, the need for an extended down time might be some what aleviated. I am thinking that 96 Gig of RAM can process a whole lot of science. I am most likely wrong, but if the outage is so NTPC can work while not being bombarded with new files, then the ability to handle the files and do science may reduce the need for down time. Actually, I don't really know.

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Oscar should be quite a beast after the generous response I got in my donation thread.....
It should be interesting to see if those in charge of actually setting the specs agree with the upgrades I proposed....especially the CPU upgrade to add more cores and speed and allow the RAM to run at it's rated speed. That should all add up to a nice increase in processing power.

More bandwidth would be nice at some point, but the weakest link has been the processing power of the server base. With mighty Oscar taking over some of the chores, the tasks running on the other servers might be spread around a bit, and Matt intends to retire some of the less reliable ones. Of course, if their load is lessened, that might not have to happen. He would be the judge of that.

If the servers can hold up their end, we can saturate the bandwidth like we have since coming back up last Thursday. And if the downtime is 3 days or less in the future, I think we can get by nicely with what is on tap right now.

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Message 1034923 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 18:00:24 UTC

Ive been jumping all over the threads, so I cant find wich one said that they have the new line run up the hill. I take it that it hasnt been connected yet?
If not any idea when it will be?

Oscar and a new line, should be a WOW moment right there.
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Message 1034928 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 18:08:33 UTC - in response to Message 1034923.  

Ive been jumping all over the threads, so I cant find wich one said that they have the new line run up the hill. I take it that it hasnt been connected yet?
If not any idea when it will be?

Oscar and a new line, should be a WOW moment right there.

I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly, the discussion was that the new fiber link was NOT going to increase Seti's bandwidth.
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Message 1034939 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 18:43:15 UTC - in response to Message 1034928.  

Ive been jumping all over the threads, so I cant find wich one said that they have the new line run up the hill. I take it that it hasnt been connected yet?
If not any idea when it will be?

Oscar and a new line, should be a WOW moment right there.

I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly, the discussion was that the new fiber link was NOT going to increase Seti's bandwidth.

As I recall, the new fiber-optic line to the Space Studies Lab was run in July. That increased data bandwidth to the whole Lab, but S@H did not get a branch line upgrade to go with it.

Maybe we can do a fundraising drive for that around Christmas time. (8{)


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Message 1034943 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 18:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 1034939.  

Ive been jumping all over the threads, so I cant find wich one said that they have the new line run up the hill. I take it that it hasnt been connected yet?
If not any idea when it will be?

Oscar and a new line, should be a WOW moment right there.

I could be wrong, but if I recall correctly, the discussion was that the new fiber link was NOT going to increase Seti's bandwidth.

As I recall, the new fiber-optic line to the Space Studies Lab was run in July. That increased data bandwidth to the whole Lab, but S@H did not get a branch line upgrade to go with it.

Maybe we can do a fundraising drive for that around Christmas time. (8{)


It's gonna take me that long to recover from the last drive.....LOL.
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Message 1034945 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 18:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 1034923.  

Ive been jumping all over the threads, so I cant find wich one said that they have the new line run up the hill. I take it that it hasnt been connected yet?
If not any idea when it will be?
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Matt posted in No Work Issues (Jun 09 2010):
In any case we are collecting data at this point (on 2TB drives, which means we'll lose less data waiting for the Arecibo operators to swap out the older 500/750GB drives), and still have a backlog of stuff to process in our archives. The lab is also getting a Gbit link to the world in July so the slow transfers to/from these archives will no longer be a bottleneck. Note this link is for the whole lab and our SETI specific data link will remain at 100MBit. Still, it's an improvement.

- Matt

I also haven't seen any specific comment that the new Gbit link has been activated, but considering it doesn't directly impact what we're dealing with and that Matt was on staycation most of July that's not surprising.
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Message 1035035 - Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 23:04:40 UTC - in response to Message 1034943.  

Maybe we can do a fundraising drive for that around Christmas time. (8{)


It's gonna take me that long to recover from the last drive.....LOL.

You're probably not the only one.


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Message 1035058 - Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 0:19:24 UTC - in response to Message 1035035.  

Maybe we can do a fundraising drive for that around Christmas time. (8{)


It's gonna take me that long to recover from the last drive.....LOL.

You're probably not the only one.


Get your pocketbooks in order folks.......LOL.
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Message 1035487 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 6:04:24 UTC

I remember reading that regardless of when the link would be hooked up, SSL would then have gigabit, but S@H would still use a configurable limit of 100mbit instead of saturating the link. At least this way, other people in SSL can get data up and down the hill without much trouble.
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Message 1035488 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 6:10:56 UTC - in response to Message 1035487.  

I remember reading that regardless of when the link would be hooked up, SSL would then have gigabit, but S@H would still use a configurable limit of 100mbit instead of saturating the link. At least this way, other people in SSL can get data up and down the hill without much trouble.

That's pretty much what my recollection is as well, although I have not found the post where the discussion took place.
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Message 1035551 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 12:46:58 UTC

Just curious..

Noone else saw this?
Since ~ 16 hours the cricket graph show ~ 5 Mbits/sec DL / ~ 20 Mbits/sec UL.

Why?

I can't UL/DL.. ;-)

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Message 1035556 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 13:04:14 UTC - in response to Message 1035551.  


I noticed the same thing, No idea what's going on there.
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Message 1035558 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 13:06:18 UTC - in response to Message 1035551.  

Not sure why Cricket is showing activity, the server status page shows the upload and download servers off. It's only 6AM in Berkeley so I don't think anyone would be in this early. Didn't Matt mention something about checking the stuff they moved around? Probably just that.


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Message 1035559 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 13:11:41 UTC - in response to Message 1035556.  

Yesterday was the UL server up for a while.
Got 75% of my WU's uploaded.
After that is was quit in the west. :D
No uploads, reports or downloads.
Maybe something simular happening now?
Or an early riser in the lab? :D
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Message 1035561 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 13:15:31 UTC - in response to Message 1035558.  

I hope it's some testing..
..and not a 'bad sign'.

Currently I can't connect to the .16 (UL), .13 and .18 (DL 1&2) server.. they are offline..

I hope I can enable in ~ 2 hours the network activity in my BOINCs and they can UL/DL/report/request.. ;-)

I have still a lot of DLs in the transfer overviews.. :-(

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Message 1035563 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 13:20:48 UTC - in response to Message 1035561.  

probably someone in the lab watching cute kittens on youtube. Or playing Halo.


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Message 1035564 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 13:22:41 UTC

Seeing as the BOINC database went back online yesterday, I presume the stats websites are updating, causing the spike in bandwidth.
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Message 1035566 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 13:29:24 UTC - in response to Message 1035563.  

probably someone in the lab watching cute kittens on youtube. Or playing Halo.


But with ~ 18 Mbits/sec traffic, this are HD-videos.. right? ;-D

Or a 'LAN-game-party'? :o)

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Message 1035573 - Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 13:50:55 UTC - in response to Message 1035566.  

probably someone in the lab watching cute kittens on youtube. Or playing Halo.


But with ~ 18 Mbits/sec traffic, this are HD-videos.. right? ;-D

Or a 'LAN-game-party'? :o)


At those hours... I doubt a lan party. More likely a janitor playing chat roulette.
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