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Message 1144384 - Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 23:52:13 UTC - in response to Message 1144321.  

Why is this thread titled British Petroleum when it has not been called that tof more than 25 years?

Catch up and be correct.


Because BP has not moved "Beyond Petroleum".
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Message 1144415 - Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 3:05:54 UTC - in response to Message 1144252.  

... Gannet A should serve as a wake-up call to a government that has for too long relied on industry assurances ...[/i]


Sounds very familiar?...

And they are moving into the Arctic?!

All without a care in the world? (Or of the world?...)



Shell defends safety after North Sea oil leak

... The company has been tackling the release of more than 200 tonnes of oil near the Gannet Alpha platform. ...

... The oil giant said oil had been seeping from the valve at a rate of less than one barrel a day before it was closed.

The situation will continue to be monitored.

The leak - about 300ft (91m) below the surface - had been discovered earlier this month.

The Gannet Alpha oil platform is 113 miles (180km) off Aberdeen.



Sounds like that had been leaking unnoticed at a low level for an awful long time before it finally blew to dump a few hundred tons in one gulp...

From this example and others, looks like the oil industry is guaranteed to spoil any area they operate in, especially so in the Arctic where oil spills will linger for a very long time. One small example is the non-recovery from the Exxon Valdez spill many years ago...


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Message 1145225 - Posted: 26 Aug 2011, 1:34:09 UTC - in response to Message 1144987.  

Let's get another thing straight. BP is Britain based, and is all about oil.

It remains British Petroleum.
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Message 1145343 - Posted: 26 Aug 2011, 11:23:16 UTC - in response to Message 1145225.  

Let's get another thing straight. BP is Britain based, and is all about oil.

It remains British Petroleum.


Yes, but 60% owned by American financial institutions and if you know how these institutions work then you know who's pulling the strings. If we wont gas for our cars then we all have to share in the blame when things go wrong.
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Message 1152469 - Posted: 15 Sep 2011, 14:42:28 UTC
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The aftermath spews onwards:


BP oil spill: US report shares Deepwater Horizon blame

Adam Brookes says the findings of the report are wide ranging

A US federal report has blamed the worst oil spill in US history on "key mis-steps", poor leadership and a poor cement job by BP and its contractors.

BP was "ultimately responsible" for rig safety, with Transocean responsible for safe operations and worker safety.

BP tried to save time and money at the cost of safety, and Transocean operated "normally" despite the hazards, it said. ...



Compared to this example, looks like they got off financially very lightly...

Hungarian toxic chemical sludge spill firm fined

An aluminium producer in Hungary has been fined 472m euros (£410m) over a spillage of toxic sludge last year.

Ten people died and serious damage to the environment was caused by the leak at a MAL Zrt plant in early October.

A government statement said the fine reflected the unprecedented volume of hazardous material released ...



So... How is oil and dispersants not any more toxic than that spill?...

I guess the real winners out of this lot will be the corporate lawyers who will get handsomely paid to clear up all the arguments for years to come...

Meanwhile, we continue our dependence on reckless pollution...

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Message 1154214 - Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 21:05:05 UTC

Looks like all in the industry are all just as bad as each other:

US court rules against Chevron in Ecuador oil case

A US court has overturned a block on Ecuadoreans collecting damages totalling $18.2bn (£11.5bn) from Chevron over Amazon oil pollution. ...

... But it is not the end of the legal saga...

... Ecuadorean indigenous groups said Texaco dumped more than 18bn gallons (68bn litres) of toxic materials into unlined pits and rivers between 1972 and 1992. ...



Oil corrupts?

Meanwhile, we continue our dependence on reckless pollution...

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Message 1161680 - Posted: 12 Oct 2011, 22:51:01 UTC
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And... Is this a disaster plan for real?...


BP reveals plan for hypothetical oil spill off Shetland

BP has drawn up contingency plans to tackle an oil spill off Shetland, twice the size of its Deepwater Horizon disaster in the Gulf of Mexico. ...

... incorporated the lessons learnt from the Deepwater Horizon incident into the overall planning for the well.

Dr Richard Dixon, from WWF Scotland, told BBC Scotland the risks involved in drilling were too great

He said: "This is a worst case scenario, but it is a realistic scenario. So this could happen. ...



Any good plans for avoiding the disaster in the first place?...

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Message 1163671 - Posted: 19 Oct 2011, 12:55:03 UTC

Meanwhile, is this just one small part of a continuing disaster unfolding?


Nigeria's coast 'threatened by shipwrecks'

Up to 100 rusty shipwrecks line Nigeria's 853km (530-mile) shore, officials say. Some have been stranded for years and they are now being blamed for erosion that threatens homes and livelihoods.

The waterfront community at Alpha Beach in Lagos date their problems to a year ago when a barge washed up a kilometre away. Since its arrival, they say the waves have eaten into the land at a rate of up to 20m a month. ...

... Buildings and roads have crumbled into the advancing water. Since April the local Muslim community has been forced to worship in a makeshift tent.

"The mosque is in the sea now," says the mosque's imam, Banuso Shamusideen. "The water just came and destroyed it. ...

... Under maritime law it is the responsibility of the ship's owner to remove their stranded vessel from the coast.

But with many of the wrecks having been bought cheap and barely seaworthy to work in Nigeria's oil industry, when trouble strikes they are often abandoned to the elements. ...




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Message 1164503 - Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 15:25:25 UTC

All a question of art?


Oiled pelicans photo takes top prize

It is a picture that seems at first to be quite beautiful. Only as the eye lingers do you fully realise its shocking context.

This image of brown pelicans smothered in oil from the Deepwater Horizon spill has earned Daniel Beltra the title of Veolia Environnement Wildlife Photographer of the Year (WPY) 2011.

"They are so afraid, and yet they still seem so elegant," ...




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Message 1169751 - Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 15:32:40 UTC - in response to Message 1164578.  
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Martin, Nigeria is the most corrupt country on the face of the planet, no way will they ever lift a finger to do anything about it.....


Perhaps there are many flavours of corruption...


Meanwhile:


Oil drilling returns to Gulf of Mexico

... A year on, drilling activity still hasn't recovered. According to the oil services firm Baker Hughes, the number of drilling rigs in US waters fell from 46 in the first quarter of 2010 to just 12 rigs four months later in July. The numbers have since increased but averaged 34 in the most recent quarter.

By contrast, the number of oil rigs drilling across the United States recently hit a record high, a reflection of the soaring interest in unconventional so called "tight oil".

There's also a new offshore regulator and new rules covering deep water activity.

Back on Perdido that includes independent checks of the on-board Blow Out Preventer, the last line of defence against an uncontrollable well. It's the vital piece of equipment which failed in the BP accident.

Mr Odum also points to the new Marine Well Containment System developed by the industry.

"One thing that was perfectly clear to us and to everyone else that was watching that incident unfold is that the ability to respond to oil in the water was not adequate. So we've built new systems now to do that."

Uncertain future

Those systems would be stretched to the limit in the event of an accident at Perdido. It's 60 miles from the nearest platform. Any rescue boats would be hours away.

It's also drawing oil and gas from the deepest sub-sea well in the world. Capping a blow out could mean operating in 9,000ft of water, almost twice the depth of the Deepwater Horizon's Macondo well.

But the rewards of operating in deep water are great. ...



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Message 1169766 - Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 16:13:56 UTC

Look to Lybia now. It's one of the countries where oil is found almost to the surface and the drilling costs are very low.

is the new government not corrupt? i have serious doubts. Also look at Russia, i don't think that they are very straigh business man.
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Message 1170193 - Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 19:24:48 UTC

All a fun part of the corruption?

From a mailing:

BP is one oil giant whose logo is splashed all over galleries and exhibition halls like the Tate. By using its profits to sponsor the arts, BP hopes to cover up the horrendous damage it's doing to the climate and the environment.

But if you're a Tate member or visitor, you can use your influence to end BP's sponsorship of the Tate galleries.

Tell Nicholas Serota, director of the Tate, that he needs to stop helping BP clean up its image.

This letter is organised by Liberate Tate, who have been working to end funding of the arts by big oil companies. By sponsoring prestigious art venues and exhibitions like the Tate, BP and other oil giants hope to gloss over their environmentally-destructive activities, scrubbing clean BP's public image.



Even if you are not a member of the Tate galleries, or even if you are not even in the UK, sending your comment will still help.

You never know, we might even clean up their dirty oil games!


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Message 1171865 - Posted: 18 Nov 2011, 9:35:16 UTC
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Looks like ALL(?) the oil companies can be tarred with the same despicable polluting practices and deceptions:


Brazil police probe Rio de Janeiro Chevron oil spill

Brazilian police are investigating an oil spill in an offshore field operated by the US company Chevron.

Ships are working to disperse the slick 120km (75 miles) off the coast of Rio de Janeiro state, and Chevron says it has plugged the oil well. ...

... But the international environmental group Skytruth said satellite images suggested the spill was many times bigger. ...

... ANP said underwater images showed Chevron's effort to permanently seal the well with cement appeared to have been successful, although there appeared to be a residual flow of oil from the seabed. ...

... "What has alarmed us is the lack of transparency on the part of the company and the attempt to minimise the size of the disaster," he told the official news agency Agencia Brasil.

"This is a clear demonstration of bad faith," he added. ...

... So far there has been little public debate about the environmental dangers of offshore drilling.

Political discussion has instead focused on how future oil revenues should be divided between different states.



The planet be damned?

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Message 1173008 - Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 14:13:56 UTC - in response to Message 1171865.  

Just an example of oil business as usual:

Brazil to fine Chevron $28m for Rio oil spill

... Chevron has accepted responsibility, saying it had underestimated the pressure of underwater oil deposits while drilling. ...


Looks like ALL(?) the oil companies can be tarred with the same despicable polluting practices and deceptions:


Brazil police probe Rio de Janeiro Chevron oil spill

Brazilian police are investigating an oil spill in an offshore field operated by the US company Chevron.

Ships are working to disperse the slick 120km (75 miles) off the coast of Rio de Janeiro state, and Chevron says it has plugged the oil well. ...

... But the international environmental group Skytruth said satellite images suggested the spill was many times bigger. ...



Note:

... So far there has been little public debate about the environmental dangers of offshore drilling.

Political discussion has instead focused on how future oil revenues should be divided between different states.



And there is oil exploration in the Arctic where any spills do not naturally degrade and cannot be effectively cleaned up...


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