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Message 943899 - Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 18:24:01 UTC
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Too funny to pass up:
Happy Halloween!



'Pumpkins' Singer Claims Swine Flu Is An Obama Conspiracy

I love a conspiracy theory, how about you?

Although this one isn't necessarily new -- lots of folks have opined about the convenient coincidence of an escalating so-called pandemic mixed with an under-supply of vaccinations while the country debates healthcare reform -- it's all the more delicious when it comes from a rock star of some note.

With that in mind, when singer, songwriter, and leader of the now defunct alternative band The Smashing Pumpkins suggests swine flu "is not a naturally occurring virus," and that "President Obama has declared a national emergency" when "there isn’t one," you have to pay attention just for the entertainment value alone.

This is especially true given his status as a poet, for at least his conspiracy theory, unlike most, is well written (h/t Mediaite):

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If you follow some of the links I have been supplying as of late, you’ll notice many are focused on the propaganda build up to our day of reckoning with the Swine Flu virus. I say ‘propaganda’ because, in my heart, there is something mighty suspicious about declaring an emergency for something that has yet to show itself to be a grand pandemic. Our American President Obama has declared a national emergency about this virus, which he in his own words said was, at this point, a preventative measure. So, why declare an emergency if there isn’t one?

I am not a doctor, and I am in no way suggesting that you should follow any medical advice from me. What you do with your body, what you put into it, who you allow to love it or hate on it, is your business. I am more focused on the vibration that has us all so fearful: both for how the fear affects our thinking, and how, in our fear, we attract the worst, and, in conjunction with that, how those fears are used by others without integrity to try to create a power against Us to promote discomfort and dis-ease [sic]. [...]

I have friends that have gotten the swine flu. All of them told me they felt very, very sick, and that it was awful. So I’m not in any way suggesting that the H1N1 virus is not real.

I would suggest however that it is possible the virus is not a naturally occurring virus. I have read reports from people who say (as doctors) that there is evidence to suggest this virus was created by man; to call it Swine Flu is then a misnomer, as it really is Swine Flu plus some other stuff stitched together. These doctors said such genetic mutation was impossible in nature.

In reality, some of this is true. There have been a lot of credible reports, including one from Tamiflu creator Adrian Gibbs, that "swine flu might have been created using eggs to grow viruses and make new vaccines, and could have been accidently leaked to the general public."

But I digress, for Corgan was rolling to a rousing crescendo:

I for one will not be taking the vaccine. I do not trust those who make the vaccines, or the apperatus behind it all to push it on us thru fear. This is not judgment; it is a personal decision based on research, intuition, conversations with my doctor and my ‘family’. If the virus comes to take me Home, that is between me and the Lord. I have put up some of these links to inspire the question in you, so that perhaps you can make a better decision for yourself. That is what holistic life is about: a willingness to look at all the facts or opinions. [...]
If the propaganda machine kicked into overdrive about kindness, manners, working together, human ingenuity, and grace, then maybe I would view its function differently. But its current function is to maim and distort the truth, not to enlighten. How do I know this? Because it has fear attached to it, because it uses fear to move energy. Anything connected to fear is definitely not connected to Love or the promotion of Love.

Scaring the daylights out of you over a virus or an unseen enemy only weakens us. Calm, open debate, and logical thought drive strength to its maximum effectiveness. The system works broken, because it is to the system’s advantage to do so. The system pretends to have a limp and a heart so you’ll think it is both listening to you and incapable of moving too fast.

The state of Massachusetts here in America is about to sign into law (if it hasn’t already) for a mandatory vaccination. The state will have the power to come into your home and incarcerate you for being unwilling to comply with a vaccination order. Didn’t you hear? Soon, you won’t even have the choice to live OR die as you wish!

The deeper message here might be that people will soon be ready to abandon the idea of a paternalistic system that governs this world. Before doing so, we must face down our deeper fears about our own liberty and tolerance. The time is coming when we will cast votes with our hearts and not our minds.

Unwarranted paranoia maybe, but sprinkled with an alarming dash of truth concerning how fear is currently being used to manipulate the masses into supporting policies that are clearly not in their own best interest.

And just in time for Halloween.

Trick or treat!!!

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.

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Message 943901 - Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 18:30:12 UTC

there are several reasons for vaccines being in short supply.
1) very few Companies make the vaccine. making the vaccine is time consuming and expensive to produce. thereby making it not very cost effective(zero gain) for companies that do produce it.
2) didease control scientists making their best guess at which 3 viruses they should produce vaccine for. unfortunately, some years the scientists strikeout and the vaccine is useless Funny thing is that even though we had this happen a few years ago, there was a barrage of ads to get that shot. A shot that did nothing.


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Message 943902 - Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 18:32:49 UTC - in response to Message 943901.  
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there are several reasons for vaccines being in short supply.
1) very few Companies make the vaccine. making the vaccine is time consuming and expensive to produce. thereby making it not very cost effective(zero gain) for companies that do produce it.
2) didease control scientists making their best guess at which 3 viruses they should produce vaccine for. unfortunately, some years the scientists strikeout and the vaccine is useless Funny thing is that even though we had this happen a few years ago, there was a barrage of ads to get that shot. A shot that did nothing.


That's not the point the article is making, keep reading.

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The Smashing Pumpkins suggests swine flu "is not a naturally occurring virus," and that "President Obama has declared a national emergency" when "there isn’t one"
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Message 943917 - Posted: 30 Oct 2009, 19:54:35 UTC - in response to Message 943902.  

See:
The Smashing Pumpkins suggests swine flu "is not a naturally occurring virus," and that "President Obama has declared a national emergency" when "there isn’t one"

Declaring a National Emergency is the first step in looting the U.S. Treasury. Scare tactics for cash. That is what Obama is all about anyway.

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Message 945099 - Posted: 4 Nov 2009, 21:13:57 UTC

In a rare glimpse of honesty, perhaps just a conspiracy...

Taxes, taxes and more taxes: "We [the United States] tax everything that moves and doesn't move, and that's not what we see in Pakistan." --Hillary Clinton, advocating tax hikes in Pakistan.
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Message 945414 - Posted: 6 Nov 2009, 11:57:09 UTC

my nephiew has the pig swine flu. at some point he got pretty bad, but now the worst is behind him. nhe is slowly recovering.
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Message 945569 - Posted: 7 Nov 2009, 3:53:50 UTC

I've had my oink pig flu shot, no oink side effects squeeel that i can tell oink.

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Message 946721 - Posted: 12 Nov 2009, 14:10:17 UTC - in response to Message 945099.  

In a rare glimpse of honesty, perhaps just a conspiracy...

Taxes, taxes and more taxes: "We [the United States] tax everything that moves and doesn't move, and that's not what we see in Pakistan." --Hillary Clinton, advocating tax hikes in Pakistan.


Ahh, context is everything:

And so at some point, when you ask for partnership, you have to ask what the equity state is that Pakistan itself is looking to make, because it is difficult to go to our taxpayers and say we consider Pakistan a strategic partner, we consider it a long-term friend and ally, we have supported it since its inception in 1947, we want to continue to do so, and have our taxpayers and our members of Congress say, well, we want to help those who help themselves, and we tax everything that moves and doesn’t move, and that’s not what we see happening in Pakistan.


Not "We [the United States] tax everything", it's "We [the US taxpayers and members of Congress] say we tax everything", the United States is more than it's taxpayers and members of Congress. Hilary is indeed advocating tax increases in Pakistan, in doing so she is supporting Pakistan's own government:

ISLAMABAD/KARACHI (APP) - Federal Minister for Finance, Shaukat Tarin reiterated government’s commitment to increase tax to GDP ratio with the support of the business community and assured the Business Persons Council (BPC) members that FBR will provide full support to address their concerns.

I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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