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Message 1149715 - Posted: 7 Sep 2011, 13:50:22 UTC - in response to Message 1149712.  
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When you start composing a message, to the left of the message area you'll see "use BBCode tags to format your text". By clicking on that, it'l give you all the options.

When you post a link, in front of the http tpye [url=, then at the end of the link, type ]. Then put in, in your link Darwin Awards, or whatever you want to call it & at the end of that text type [/url]

Try a few practice sessions & then use the preview tab to see to results.
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Message 1149721 - Posted: 7 Sep 2011, 14:05:19 UTC

Thanks Guys, next time i will post according to your instructions...

By the way, the Darwin awards are something, well no words to describe it when you are talking about human stupidity.

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Message 1152471 - Posted: 15 Sep 2011, 14:44:40 UTC
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Back on topic...


Canadian ozone network faces axe

Arctic monitoring stations hit by budget constraints.

Quirin Schiermeier

Arctic ozone levels hit a record low this year (blue area, right), compared with a relative high (red) in 2010.

A key source of information about the health of the ozone layer above the Arctic looks set to be choked off.

In a year that saw the first genuine 'ozone hole' appear in the Northern Hemisphere, atmospheric scientists say they are shocked to learn that Environment Canada, the country's environment agency, has decided to drastically reduce its ozone science and monitoring programme.

Its network of monitoring stations provides about one-third of the Arctic's ozone measurements and this year contributed key data showing unprecedented depletion of stratospheric ozone over the Arctic. ...



Note that as CO2-forced global warming continues, the upper atmosphere can be expected to get colder as the higher concentration of CO2 blocks more of the warmth from the ground. The colder upper atmosphere promotes increased ozone depletion...

I just wonder if there is any connection that the research monitoring is getting choked off just as Canada's exploitation of their tar sands expands...


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Message 1152478 - Posted: 15 Sep 2011, 15:12:52 UTC

About global warming.

Humanity is just Accelerating a natural process, as you might know, earth as periods where is warmer or where is warmer and the ice caps get smaller or get larger accordingly.

Since the Industrial revolution humanity accelerated a process that is warming our planet, instead of taking 500 years, it will take only 100 or 150 if mankind doesn’t take the necessary measures.

What real puzzle me, is we know, we have the tools but instead of working together, mankind is just ignoring. Is like well is my neighbor problem, so it does not affect me. Nothing more stupid than such opinion.

Like I always quote, stupidity does not have nationality, race or religion it just exists, because at the end people are stupid, and politicians are beyond stupidity.

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Message 1152895 - Posted: 16 Sep 2011, 21:20:20 UTC

"STUPID or Not Stupid? The Age of STUPID (Worldwide event!)"
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If we ain't figured it out by Now We must be Stupid. ;o]

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Message 1154158 - Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 11:10:31 UTC - in response to Message 1152895.  
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"STUPID or Not Stupid? The Age of STUPID (Worldwide event!)"
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If we ain't figured it out by Now We must be Stupid. ;o]

In one respect, all very depressing. In other respects, there does seem to be an ever growing weight of awareness and momentum to do something. I just hope the politicians and Big Industry are sensible enough to concede and avert a bloody revolution...

From some time ago...

The Global Climate Wake-Up Call


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Message 1154433 - Posted: 21 Sep 2011, 9:26:46 UTC - in response to Message 1154158.  

In one respect, all very depressing. In other respects, there does seem to be an ever growing weight of awareness and momentum to do something. I just hope the politicians and Big Industry are sensible enough to concede and avert a bloody revolution...


On the contrary, people generally are fed-up with all this man-made warming story.
If man-made global warming is a fact then those promoting it have handled it all very badly. People are loosing interest in it all and generally do not believe it to be a fact. It has turned in to a scare mongering story which has aroused peoples suspicions and damaged what could possibly be a true event occurring. In the company that I work for I would say from my experience of talking to staff about it only 2%( THAT IS 2% ) believe in man being the cause of this warming. The fight is being lost, the sensible man in the street does not believe in it anymore. Quite frankly I don't blame the average person for not believing in it for the whole saga has been badly miss-managed from the start and from both sides of the argument too.
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Message 1161854 - Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 12:42:17 UTC - in response to Message 931913.  

It has taken a long time, but, at last, some recognition?

We've had the Stone Age, the Bronze Age, the Iron Age, and the Industrial Revolution.

Now we have:

The Age of STUPID

At a cinema near you. And all around you at present! ...



Fishing film nets documentary prize

A film about the effects of overfishing has won a new award set up to honour films that have made a significant impact on society. ...

... Another contender, Burma VJ, received a special commendation from the jury. ...

... Environmental documentary The Age of Stupid, starring the late Pete Postlethwaite, was among the five finalists. ...




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Message 1169757 - Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 15:40:20 UTC

This one has has just got to rate very highly on the list...


Chilling facts on global warming

The new figures on global carbon dioxide emissions for 2010 from the US Department of Energy make sobering, not to say chilling, reading.

They show that, although much of the world may be facing a financial, economic and industrial crisis, the remorseless growth of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming continues unchecked.

The headline figure is that world CO2 jumped by its largest ever amount in a single year...

... What makes these figures chilling is that none of these nations – not China, nor the US, nor India – has any interest in signing a legally binding treaty to bring CO2 down...




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Message 1169762 - Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 16:08:19 UTC

It's only one planet, but this global warming issue is not very well explain either by politics or by the scientific comunity.

therefore why should i worry about this?
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Message 1169877 - Posted: 10 Nov 2011, 21:55:40 UTC - in response to Message 1169762.  

Actually, both the politics and the science are well explained. But that assumes a certain comprehension skill -- it may well be that in this (and many other) countries, the comprehension skill is lacking.


It's only one planet, but this global warming issue is not very well explained either by politics or by the scientific comunity.

therefore why should i worry about this?

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Message 1170036 - Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 10:32:45 UTC - in response to Message 1169877.  

Actually, both the politics and the science are well explained. But that assumes a certain comprehension skill -- it may well be that in this (and many other) countries, the comprehension skill is lacking.


It's only one planet, but this global warming issue is not very well explained either by politics or by the scientific comunity.

therefore why should i worry about this?



Barry, in my country we have access to all information and if I read the explanations from the ones pro global warming, they are clear as water, the problem is than i read the other part, and it raise me some doubts.

Example, in many countries we are having the coldest winters ever and mild summers, where we should have not very well defined winters, springs or summers.

Also the ice-caps should all be melted by now.

Yes it's a fact that the average temperature of the planet is rising, the question is can we really say that this fact is only induced by man, or it's also induced by nature itself, as there are cycles where earth was warmer than it was now, and there was eras where the earth where much cooler. like in the ice age.
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Message 1170138 - Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 16:56:43 UTC - in response to Message 1170036.  

OK -- so one problem is 'global warming' versus 'global climate change' -- people hear global warming and note -- cold winters, rain, flooding and figure -- no global warming. Actually, what the science suggests is that as warming on a global scale progresses, what we will see is increasing frequency of extreme weather.

As to climate cycles -- indeed there are and have been cycles outside of human influence. That's one of those 'duh' scenarios unless you are really a fundamentalist regarding the 'age' of the earth.

And warming or ice ages can (and have) occurred outside of human factors even within the historical record. The issue brought up by climate scientists is that over the past 100+ years, human activity has now become a significant factor in the equation.



Example, in many countries we are having the coldest winters ever and mild summers, where we should have not very well defined winters, springs or summers.

Also the ice-caps should all be melted by now.

Yes it's a fact that the average temperature of the planet is rising, the question is can we really say that this fact is only induced by man, or it's also induced by nature itself, as there are cycles where earth was warmer than it was now, and there was eras where the earth where much cooler. like in the ice age.

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Message 1171381 - Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 14:25:14 UTC
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This is just one example of what happens when you get a rapid change in the eco-system. Whether that is from forced global warming and climate change, or from any other factors such as over-fishing or pollution or alien invasion. Usually what follows is greatly reduced biodiversity, and all at great cost:


Alien rats take on prey's role

... The results could mean that the decline of pollinating animals worldwide does not spell the end for all native plants. ...

... Insect pollination alone is estimated to be worth £141bn ($224bn) each year, and according to a report from the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) bees pollinate over two-thirds of the world's crops.

So the decline of the world's pollinating animals has unsurprisingly sparked concerns about lower yields and serious long-term food shortages among farmers and governments. ...

... "We have this situation where almost all of the native vertebrates in New Zealand - birds, bats and reptiles - have disappeared from the North island... largely due to predation by rats," he added.

But a small patch of pristine New Zealand woodland still exists...

... And for two of the three plant species, the invasive species were doing a comparable job to the native pollinators.

(Rattus rattus stowed away on European ships to reach New Zealand.)

"I was quite startled by it," said Dr Wilcove.

He explains that, in general, this type of compensation is more likely to happen for flowering plants that are pollinated by many different animals.

But for plants that rely on a very specialist pollinator, the loss of its sole pollinating animal still spells doom for the species. ...




How impoverished is impoverished? I'd much prefer a humming bird to a long tongued rat!

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Message 1194474 - Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 19:37:47 UTC

The following two issues have just got to rate very high on the scoring...


The new anti-science assault on US schools

In a disturbing trend, anti-evolution campaigners are combining with climate change deniers to undermine public education


Why the energy industry is so invested in climate change denial

The world most's profitable companies are valued by their carbon reserves – never mind the resulting ruin to the planet

... It's no secret where this denialism comes from: the fossil fuel industry pays for it. (Of the 16 authors of the Journal article, for instance, five had had ties to Exxon.) Writers from Ross Gelbspan to Naomi Oreskes have made this case with such overwhelming power that no one even really tries denying it any more. The open question is why the industry persists in denial in the face of an endless body of fact showing climate change is the greatest danger we've ever faced.

Why doesn't it fold, the way the tobacco industry eventually did? Why doesn't it invest its riches in things like solar panels and so profit handsomely from the next generation of energy?

The answer is more interesting than you might think. ...




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Message 1194490 - Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 20:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 1194474.  

The following two issues have just got to rate very high on the scoring...


The new anti-science assault on US schools

In a disturbing trend, anti-evolution campaigners are combining with climate change deniers to undermine public education


Why the energy industry is so invested in climate change denial

The world most's profitable companies are valued by their carbon reserves – never mind the resulting ruin to the planet

... It's no secret where this denialism comes from: the fossil fuel industry pays for it. (Of the 16 authors of the Journal article, for instance, five had had ties to Exxon.) Writers from Ross Gelbspan to Naomi Oreskes have made this case with such overwhelming power that no one even really tries denying it any more. The open question is why the industry persists in denial in the face of an endless body of fact showing climate change is the greatest danger we've ever faced.

Why doesn't it fold, the way the tobacco industry eventually did? Why doesn't it invest its riches in things like solar panels and so profit handsomely from the next generation of energy?

The answer is more interesting than you might think. ...




"Call for Majorkong, call for majorkong"...Telegram Sir, looks like they have
finally dropped the "man made" part from their argument.



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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.
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