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Message 823004 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 4:49:20 UTC
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Say which boards do you people use with your 65NM Intel Quad on. My ASUS P5N-E SLI does not like my quad very well the best I can do is 2640MHZ.
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Message 823010 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 4:59:41 UTC - in response to Message 823007.  

Thanks Joker
I kind of figured that was probably the best board but like you say they are distinct animal.
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Message 823037 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 5:39:24 UTC - in response to Message 823018.  

I just did a search and they are available but not at Tiger Direct where I have credit with them.
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Message 823050 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 6:16:24 UTC

Gigabytes are great boards too, MSI seem to be getting some great reviews, try to find a P35 board, should be plenty at Tiger.
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Message 823207 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 17:40:26 UTC

I have Q6600 running in intel's 975xbx2. It is probably out of production now, but it was intel's flagship consumer board for 65 nm cpu.
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Message 823277 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 21:55:23 UTC

Thanks Joker
I think the ASUS P5K Deluxe is the board of choice. It is the one that you use and I think others mention the most used for over clocking. I know you and others mentioned it the most.
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Message 823281 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 22:05:25 UTC - in response to Message 823277.  

Thanks Joker
I think the ASUS P5K Deluxe is the board of choice. It is the one that you use and I think others mention the most used for over clocking. I know you and others mentioned it the most.

Newegg still has 'em..........
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Message 823285 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 22:11:47 UTC - in response to Message 823281.  

Hi Mark
You use the ASUS P5K Deluxe don't you?
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Message 823286 - Posted: 25 Oct 2008, 22:13:58 UTC - in response to Message 823285.  

Hi Mark
You use the ASUS P5K Deluxe don't you?

Yes... a couple of my rigs are on P5K deluxes....
And a couple of them are on P5K3 deluxes....

Very fine OCing board.....
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Message 823403 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 4:58:33 UTC

Ive' got the basic p5k. I had a wireless card,so decided against the deluxe. I see the south bridge is 1ch9r instead of Ich9, is this a big difference? I'm happy with this mb, now I see they have a p5kpro.can't find the p5k regular anywhere anymore. I know Msattler said he was impressed with the Bios updates for the deluxe lot of things to tweak.
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Message 823453 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 9:14:08 UTC - in response to Message 823004.  

Say which boards do you people use with your 65NM Intel Quad on. My ASUS P5N-E SLI does not like my quad very well the best I can do is 2640MHZ.

Just to make your decision a little more difficult... ;)

- P5Q DeLuxe Q9550@4.08GHz
- Striker II Extreme Q9550@4.04GHz
- P5E3 Q9550@3.98GHz
- P5K DeLuxe Q9550@3.84GHz
- Rampage Formula Q9550@3.80GHz
- P5K Q6600@3.82GHz
- P5E-VM SE Q6600@3.74GHz
- P5E-VM HDMI Q6600@3.64GHz

All ASUS-boards, all air-cooled, all running Linux.
One could exchange the 9550s for 6600s and still would get great OC'ing results (some went beyond 3.95GHz when used on P5K DeLuxe and Rampage, but don't forget that sometimes the CPU is the weak point, e.g. one of my 6600s won't go beyond 3.4GHZ, even on the P5K DeLuxe...and even two of the 9550s should be able to do more than 3.8)...
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Message 823502 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 13:51:29 UTC - in response to Message 823453.  

Say which boards do you people use with your 65NM Intel Quad on. My ASUS P5N-E SLI does not like my quad very well the best I can do is 2640MHZ.

Just to make your decision a little more difficult... ;)

- P5Q DeLuxe Q9550@4.08GHz
- Striker II Extreme Q9550@4.04GHz
- P5E3 Q9550@3.98GHz
- P5K DeLuxe Q9550@3.84GHz
- Rampage Formula Q9550@3.80GHz
- P5K Q6600@3.82GHz
- P5E-VM SE Q6600@3.74GHz
- P5E-VM HDMI Q6600@3.64GHz

All ASUS-boards, all air-cooled, all running Linux.
One could exchange the 9550s for 6600s and still would get great OC'ing results (some went beyond 3.95GHz when used on P5K DeLuxe and Rampage, but don't forget that sometimes the CPU is the weak point, e.g. one of my 6600s won't go beyond 3.4GHZ, even on the P5K DeLuxe...and even two of the 9550s should be able to do more than 3.8)...

Some fine mobos there, and some mighty fine OCing work too, my friend!!
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Message 823510 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 14:11:09 UTC

Thanx !
Waiting for i7... ;)
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Message 823523 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 14:43:48 UTC
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There will be 3 new procs coming out from Intel not just the Nehalem with the LGA1366 socket there is the LGA1066 socket with PCI-E will be on the CPU too all within the next year or so.
So I am waiting and see about the new Intel chips.

SEE my quote from Maximum PC magazine

Intel’s details Nehalem, Larrabee and hexa-core CPU plans
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/intel_s_details_nehalem_larrabee_and_hexa_core_cpu_plans



Besides Larrabee, Intel also released more on its upcoming Nehalem chip. Based on a 45nm process, Nehalem will utilize a modular design that will let Intel build CPUs featuring different numbers of cores and different cache configs, as well as integrated graphics and memory controllers. The initial consumer enthusiast version is codenamed Tylersburg. It will be a native quad-core design, and each core will feature a Hyperthreading-like capability to execute two threads simultaneously. Tylersburg will feature L3 cache and an integrated tri-channel DDR3 controller. That should offer boatloads of bandwidth but it’ll also mean more complicated memory configurations.

The demonstration Tylersburg machine featured six DIMM slots. To operate in tri-mode, three DIMMs have to be populated. However, the demonstration machine ran fine with just two DIMM slots occupied.


The desktop version of Nehalem is already up and running.

As expected, Nehalem does away with the front-side bus. The chip will communicate with the chipset and other CPUs via a high-speed interconnect Intel has dubbed Quick Path Interconnect. Tylersburg is expected near the end of this year. Intel also demonstrated its hexa-core CPU. Codenamed Dunnington, the chip is essentially a six-core Penryn.

Should upgraders expect such a beast to fill their existing Socket 775 boards? No, Intel said. Dunnington will only find a home in Xeon boards. Intel said that while there’s been some discussion about Dunnington on desktop, the resources to make it work in a desktop configuration don’t make fiscal sense. And since Dunnington will hit just after Nehalem, the company expects most performance desktop users to adopt Nehalem. Dunnington’s best fit is for workstation and servers where it should work as a drop-in replacement for current quad-core Xeons.

On tap beyond Nehalem, Intel said to expect Westmere, a 32nm shrink of Nehalem with some microarchitecture enhancements to keep performance up. A more significant upgrade is expected with the Sandy Bridge CPU core in 2009 or 2010.
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Message 823536 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 16:08:47 UTC
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Concerning the LGA1066 socket here is the latest from MaximunPC magazine latest print edition DEC 08 article "Technology Watch List" pp32-34 by the staff at MaximuPC.

NEW SOCKET ON THE BLOCK
So all this CPU goodness and performance will drop right into that $450 LGA775 board you just bought, right? Of course not. Ung's Law dictates that the minute you buy expensive hardware, something better will arrive that makes what you just bought obsolete.
Intel isn't doing this just to piss people off (although a history of such behavior has had that result). Since Core i7 moves the memory controller directly into the CPU, Intel added a load of pins that go directly to the memory modules. The new standard bearer for performance boxes is the LGA1366 socket. It looks functionally similar to the LGA775, with the obvious addition of more pins. More pins also means a bigger socket, which means your fancy heatsink is also likely headed to the recycle bin. LGA1366 boards space the heatsink mounts just a tad bit wider, just enough to make your current heatsink incompatible. There's a chance that some third-party heatsink makers will offer updated mounts to make your current heatsink work, but that's not known yet.
What will be interesting to heatsink aficionados is Intel's encouragement that vendors rate the heat-sinks using a unified thermal rating that will be tied to the Turbo mode settings. For more information, see the Turbo mode sidebar below.
THE SECOND COMING
Intel is adopting more than just AMD's integrated memory controller with its new Core i7 chips; it's also adopting AMD's abandoned Socket 940/754 two-socket philosophy. For the high end, the LGA1366 socket will offer tri-channel RAM and a high-performance OPI interface. For mainstream users, Intel will offer a dual-channel DDR3 design built around a new LGA1066 socket late next year. LGA1066 isn't just about shedding one channel of DDR3 though; LGA1066-based CPUs will also bring direct-attach PCI Express to the table.
Instead of PCI Express running through the chipset, as it does with existing Core 2 and the new performance Core i7, PCI-E will reside on the die of LGA1066 CPUs. With the PCI-E in the CPU itself, Intel will reuse its fairly slow DMI interface to connect the CPU to a single-chip south bridge. The two chips Intel will introduce are the quad-core Lynnfield and the dual-core Havendale. Havendale CPUs will actually feature a newly designed graphics core inside the heat spreader that will talk to the CPU core via a high-speed QPI interface. Both chips will feature Hyper-Threading on all cores.
Many AMD users got a royal screwing when the company abandoned both Socket 940 and Socket 754 for a unified Socket 939; could Intel do something similar? We asked Intel point blank whether LGA1366 would eventually be abandoned for LGA1066; the company told us it fully intends to support both platforms.


So I haven't decided which Intel to choose from yet so I am waiting to see and will upgrade my current Q6600 chip with a new board.
Also I believe I have read that the i7 will run at 130 watts that's a lot of heat.
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Message 823581 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 18:22:25 UTC - in response to Message 823568.  
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The MaximumPC article mentions both LGA1066 and LGA1160 and LGA1366? So I am confused?
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Message 823658 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 22:17:54 UTC - in response to Message 823607.  

It's in the print editon MaximumPC DEC 08 article "Technology Watch List" pp32-34
It' not on the internet and it mentions LGA1066 and LGA1366 the LGA1160 was a scan error to text. I rechecked the story and it mentions LGA1366 and LGA1066.
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Message 823675 - Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 22:57:30 UTC - in response to Message 823660.  

Thanks Joker
Anyway I want to upgrade my board for my Q6600 CPU until about next Summer when I get my retirement check and then I will see what is happening then in the Intel world and which chip codename or socket is best. I will stay away from i7 Nehalem - Tylersburg and LGA1366 sockets until the 130 watts and other things are worked out.
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