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Message 816792 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 816791.  

Try and see ;)
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Message 816795 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:28:27 UTC - in response to Message 816791.  
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How is the performance?

I read here in the forum AP-WUs with stock app on an Intel Quad @ ~ 3.2 GHz = ~ 34 hours.

Now ~ 17 hours? :-D


I have an Q6600 (stock speed and WinXp 32bits) working on it... tomorrow I can tell you...
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Message 816796 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:31:04 UTC - in response to Message 816792.  

Try and see ;)


I'm a 'credit-hunter'.. ;-D

If Enhanced = AP [Credits/hour] then I will test.. :-D

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Message 816798 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:31:54 UTC - in response to Message 816795.  
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How is the performance?

I read here in the forum AP-WUs with stock app on an Intel Quad @ ~ 3.2 GHz = ~ 34 hours.

Now ~ 17 hours? :-D


I have an Q6600 (stock speed) working on it... tomorrow I can tell you...


Thanks..

How was the time with stock AP-app?


EDIT:
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Someone know how the performance is with 4 AP-WUs and maybe 1 AP- and 3 Enhanced-WUs?
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Message 816800 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:35:22 UTC - in response to Message 816796.  

Try and see ;)


I'm a 'credit-hunter'.. ;-D

If Enhanced = AP [Credits/hour] then I will test.. :-D


??? If credit per hour would be the same you will get ~twice smaller credits for the same task if it computes twice faster. Strong "demotivation" for any optimization efforts. But of course it's not true. Credit per hour will be twice higher if opt app crunch task twice faster.
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Message 816801 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:35:42 UTC - in response to Message 816798.  
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I heard about 30 hours, but I was far from here about 2 months... and I don'n know if the stock app was improved...

I think, by the maths, the opti can do it in 13h... or better...
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Message 816806 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 816800.  
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Try and see ;)


I'm a 'credit-hunter'.. ;-D

If Enhanced = AP [Credits/hour] then I will test.. :-D


??? If credit per hour would be the same you will get ~twice smaller credits for the same task if it computes twice faster. Strong "demotivation" for any optimization efforts. But of course it's not true. Credit per hour will be twice higher if opt app crunch task twice faster.


I calculated for some time:
Only AP-WUs with stock app = ~ 2,000
Only Enhanced-WUs with opt. app = ~ 5,800
[RAC with an Intel Quad @ ~ 3.2 GHz]
(Credits around 2 months ago.)
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Message 816810 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 20:52:09 UTC

Here's my stock-speed Q6600 testing at SETI Beta. All results in October have been with the optimised app now publicly released. Results in July and August were with near-release stock applications.

In testing the Opti app, I did three WUs with the SSE3 app (under 75,000 seconds), and five with the SSE app (over 75,000 seconds). The remaining short WU is a 30-pulse overflow, similar to the -9s we're familiar with here. Ignore the credit, concentrate on the time (the credit fluctuation is due to the normalisation script - all WUs have the same flops). I'll leave the rest of the maths to you.
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Message 816813 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 21:00:21 UTC - in response to Message 816810.  
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Here's my stock-speed Q6600 testing at SETI Beta. All results in October have been with the optimised app now publicly released. Results in July and August were with near-release stock applications.

In testing the Opti app, I did three WUs with the SSE3 app (under 75,000 seconds), and five with the SSE app (over 75,000 seconds). The remaining short WU is a 30-pulse overflow, similar to the -9s we're familiar with here. Ignore the credit, concentrate on the time (the credit fluctuation is due to the normalisation script - all WUs have the same flops). I'll leave the rest of the maths to you.


You have all the reason... but, now my only one astropulse wu, showns 6h at 26%,but I have faith in the optimizers boys...:)
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Message 816814 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 21:06:41 UTC - in response to Message 816791.  
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How is the performance?

I read here in the forum AP-WUs with stock app on an Intel Quad @ ~ 3.2 GHz = ~ 34 hours.

Now ~ 17 hours? :-D

My Q9450 @ 3.56GHz has been processing AP WU's in about 26 hours. I installed the Optimised App when one AP WU was at about 5% after 1.5 hours. Now, after 2.75 hours it is up at 15.67%. I believe the % counter on AP is more linear than on MB so this does seem to indicate a target of around 13 hours (i.e. a 50% or thereabouts improvement). Since it is now after 10pm over here, I will know more in the morning.

Have not noticed a significant temperature increase on the core that is crunching the AP WU (I have set Affinity on it so that I could keep an eye on it). [Edit]I am running 1 CPDN (with Affinity set) on one core, and the remaining 2 cores are currently running MB WU's but there are a couple more AP WU's coming up the stack that I think I will get to before this one finishes.[/Edit]

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Message 816815 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 21:06:44 UTC - in response to Message 816813.  

Here's my stock-speed Q6600 testing at SETI Beta. All results in October have been with the optimised app now publicly released. Results in July and August were with near-release stock applications.

In testing the Opti app, I did three WUs with the SSE3 app (under 75,000 seconds), and five with the SSE app (over 75,000 seconds). The remaining short WU is a 30-pulse overflow, similar to the -9s we're familiar with here. Ignore the credit, concentrate on the time (the credit fluctuation is due to the normalisation script - all WUs have the same flops). I'll leave the rest of the maths to you.


You have all the reason... but, now my only one astropulse wu, showns 6h at 26%,but I have faith in the optimizers boys...:)

The Penny has gone off on a walkabout........crunching all the shorties in the cache.........
But one day, it shall deal with an AP too........hope the credits are up to par by then....
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Message 816818 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 21:11:00 UTC - in response to Message 816814.  
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How is the performance?

I read here in the forum AP-WUs with stock app on an Intel Quad @ ~ 3.2 GHz = ~ 34 hours.

Now ~ 17 hours? :-D

My Q9450 @ 3.56GHz has been processing AP WU's in about 26 hours. I installed the Optimised App when it was at about 5% after 1.5 hours. Now, after 2.75 hours it is up at 15.67%. I believe the % counter on AP is more linear than on MB so this does seem to indicate a target of around 13 hours (i.e. a 50% or thereabouts improvement). Since it is now after 10pm over here, I will know more in the morning.

Have not noticed a significant temperature increase on the core that is crunching the AP WU (I have set Affinity on it so that I could keep an eye on it).

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Message 816820 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 21:12:08 UTC
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Query: Can you post links to a non-zipped optimized app - or at least a generic zipped app that doesn't require the download of a specific program to unzip ... please?

I don't like having to download a program just to unzip one file I need.
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Message 816824 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 21:24:37 UTC - in response to Message 816820.  
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Query: Can you post links to a non-zipped optimized app - or at least a generic zipped app that doesn't require the download of a specific program to unzip ... please?

I don't like having to download a program just to unzip one file I need.


I have it from the beginning of Simons opt.-crew..

http://www.7-zip.org

It don't hurt.. ;-D


But, sure.. it would be easier if it would be with '.zip' ..


EDIT:
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I miss a note in the opening post in this thread about to need this prog..
[Maybe new members will be confused after download.. ;-)]
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Message 816826 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 21:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 816820.  
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http://www.izarc.org/

So many formates supported so you never will be need to ask for another packager ;)
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Message 816845 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 23:09:09 UTC

I broke down and downloaded 7-Zip to unpack the file, then removed it right after. I like to keep my machine as 'clean' as possible.

Suspended the work in progress, shut down BOINC completely (including ending the process), modified the app_info file, copied the new app into the projects directory, restarted BOINC and hit Resume. After a second or two delay (for copying the new app into the slots folders I assume), the progress percentages started jumping much faster than normal. I was quite surprised that it worked - the last time I tried something similar, the work units in progress had errors.

I'm crunching four Astropulse units at once right now, and my CPU temps have already increased by several degrees Celsius. Also, my +3.3v rail is lower than it was with the standard app. I have noticed slight hesitation with my internet browser as well. In short, the new app is more demanding on my Phenom. Hopefully the payoff will be significant.

I have one Astropulse unit in line to be crunched, so I'll have to wait for that one to see what the final time reduction will be with the new app.
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Message 816851 - Posted: 10 Oct 2008, 23:22:27 UTC - in response to Message 816845.  

I broke down and downloaded 7-Zip to unpack the file, then removed it right after. I like to keep my machine as 'clean' as possible.

Suspended the work in progress, shut down BOINC completely (including ending the process), modified the app_info file, copied the new app into the projects directory, restarted BOINC and hit Resume. After a second or two delay (for copying the new app into the slots folders I assume), the progress percentages started jumping much faster than normal. I was quite surprised that it worked - the last time I tried something similar, the work units in progress had errors.

I'm crunching four Astropulse units at once right now, and my CPU temps have already increased by several degrees Celsius. Also, my +3.3v rail is lower than it was with the standard app. I have noticed slight hesitation with my internet browser as well. In short, the new app is more demanding on my Phenom. Hopefully the payoff will be significant.

I have one Astropulse unit in line to be crunched, so I'll have to wait for that one to see what the final time reduction will be with the new app.

Welcome to the "couldn't resist" club ;)

My first partial using the Opti App is now:
~5% in 1.5 hours (using Stock App)
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~27.5% in 3.5 hours (using Opti App)

So still looking like a 50% improvement on the 26 hours for Stock AP App.

No to catch some zzzzzzzzz's and check it in the morning.

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Message 816864 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 0:11:54 UTC - in response to Message 816845.  

I broke down and downloaded 7-Zip to unpack the file, then removed it right after. I like to keep my machine as 'clean' as possible.

Suspended the work in progress, shut down BOINC completely (including ending the process), modified the app_info file, copied the new app into the projects directory, restarted BOINC and hit Resume. After a second or two delay (for copying the new app into the slots folders I assume), the progress percentages started jumping much faster than normal. I was quite surprised that it worked - the last time I tried something similar, the work units in progress had errors.

I'm crunching four Astropulse units at once right now, and my CPU temps have already increased by several degrees Celsius. Also, my +3.3v rail is lower than it was with the standard app. I have noticed slight hesitation with my internet browser as well. In short, the new app is more demanding on my Phenom. Hopefully the payoff will be significant.

I have one Astropulse unit in line to be crunched, so I'll have to wait for that one to see what the final time reduction will be with the new app.


If new releases will publish you must install again 7-Zip.. ;-)


Last time with errors?
You mean you installed the opt. app for Enhanced?
SETI@home have Enhanced- and Astropulse- WUs.
If you downloaded automatically the stock Enhanced app and WUs.. and copied manually the app_info.xml and the files in the directory, you will lose all downloaded WUs.
Because since stock Enhanced V6.03 you must extend the app_info.xml with 603 entry.

[I hope the app_info.xml's will be extend soon on the download-areas.]

Now you must have a big app_info.xml like Logan done it here:
Message 816783 in this thread
Then you have opt. application for Enhanced and Astropulse.

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Message 816903 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 2:02:20 UTC

I had one little boo-boo installing the app, I accidentally included the </app_info> in the line preceding the info for my AKV8 app and it deleted all my work on my machine.

Got the problem fixed but now there will be a lot of work that will have to be resent when it times out on me.

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Message 816975 - Posted: 11 Oct 2008, 6:57:33 UTC - in response to Message 816783.  
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How is the performance?

I read here in the forum AP-WUs with stock app on an Intel Quad @ ~ 3.2 GHz = ~ 34 hours.

Now ~ 17 hours? :-D


I have an Q6600 (stock speed and WinXp 32bits) working on it... tomorrow I can tell you...


Good morning Sutaru!

Well... my first optimized wu is done...

13 hours and 10 minutes...

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1017128985

but I don't know if the result will be validated until the wingman terminated it...:)

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