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bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Does this really look like a shadow under the right, (Starboard), side of the fuselage? Perhaps you do, but explain to me how it grows from one frame to the next, almost as if it's something being inflated, and what could it be? Perhaps you could re-read this analysis of the images, paying close attention to Appendix A that specifically covers them. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Maybe you could find us a picture that doesn't show the anomaly, but does show the planes belly. . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Maybe you could find us a picture that doesn't show the anomaly, but does show the planes belly. and maybe you could find a picture that looks like ANYTHING other than a plane slamming into a building. ...but that doesn't mean anything else happened. |
BeefDog Send message Joined: 9 Feb 00 Posts: 91 Credit: 146,476 RAC: 0 |
For the sake of debate (and I'm not reflecting my personal views in asking this). Ok, I'm not an American and I'm not saying that America perpetrated the attacks BUT there are a lot of people out there who say that she did. What are your reasons for saying that she didn't? If you look throughout history there are a lot of cases which show that "leaders" and others perpetrated attacks against it's own people, of ethical groups, to push forward their own interests. Why should America be different? Maybe not on a political level but for other reasons? And please before anybody attacks me, these are not my personal beliefs on this topic, I just enjoyed debating at school even if I was totally against what was picked for me to debate about sometimnes I even won the debate! http://www.therageclub.com |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Well you know there was that whole Bin Laden confession thing... and to the best of my knowledge, no evidence that he or Al Qaeda have denied involvement. |
BeefDog Send message Joined: 9 Feb 00 Posts: 91 Credit: 146,476 RAC: 0 |
I know that. But I was trying to hear a convincing argument from someone who believed that America perpetrated the attacks! http://www.therageclub.com |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
That's just it....there are no "convincing arguments". There's edited footage, and lot's of people who don't understand the physical properties of aluminum and carbon fiber slamming into concrete and steel at 500mph (or even half that speed) and lots of people who don't understand the consistency of metal after exposure to extremely high temperatures....but no convincing arguments. |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Maybe you could find us a picture that doesn't show the anomaly, but does show the planes belly. Still nothing? "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Maybe you could find us a picture that doesn't show the anomaly, but does show the planes belly. The comparison of the graining still photo and the close up of a similar jet (in Appendix A on the link provided earlier) suggests, to me at least, that there is no anomaly. There is a "bulge" where the wings on this type of plane meet the fuselage, to find a picture of one without such a bulge would be an anomaly. That the bulge appears to grow in the video you provided is a function of blooming (and flattening of contrast) mentioned earlier. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
So no picture? Not one? Just accusations the video has been tampered with? Boo... Hiss... "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
So no picture? Not one? Just accusations the video has been tampered with? Seems you're eye sight might not be that good afterall, I specifically mentioned the still photo, that does not show any anomaly. Doesn't that count as one? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
So no picture? Not one? Just accusations the video has been tampered with? What's th message id? "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Art Fracchia Send message Joined: 12 Oct 07 Posts: 59 Credit: 4,169,829 RAC: 1 |
"Pull" is a demo term for the moment you detonate when demoing a building. Talk about people running theirs mouths with nothing to say. I love it when people who know nothing about this talk as though they do. Pull is also used by many different jobs. Fire fighters use the word to get their people out of danger. Shooter use it to launch targets. I know, It's all Bushes fault. Bush also had MLK and JFK killed. Bush is also the cause of the Great Depression and the SF earthquake. |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Interesting how the planes wings slice through the steel outer beams like butter while at the Pentagon they shatter into little bitty pieces. Magic! Welcome to the discussion, Art Fracchia. Pull is also used in the phrase, "Pulling your leg." Or "Pulling the wool over one's eyes." You did some scrolling to find that diagram. Any other data you'd like to contest? . "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
So no picture? Not one? Just accusations the video has been tampered with? Message 794469, follow the "this" link, scroll down to Appendix A. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Can you link the picture? I've never heard of that site and don't trust who I don't know on the net. So no picture? Not one? Just accusations the video has been tampered with? "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Can you link the picture? I've never heard of that site and don't trust who I don't know on the net. You can find a link to the page on one of your favorites http://www.911review.org/Wiki/Wtc2PlanePod.shtml. A UA 767 with stripe down the center of its underbelly: The grainy photo of UA 175 I mentioned earlier, next to a much clearer picture of 767: A still from the video you posted: And a higher quality version of the still: I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
MrGray Send message Joined: 17 Aug 05 Posts: 3170 Credit: 60,411 RAC: 0 |
Nice work bobby, I didn't remember those bulges when I used to refueled them. BSmasher: It would only matter if your aluminum "shattering" theory wasn't accurate. "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Interesting how the planes wings slice through the steel outer beams like butter while at the Pentagon they shatter into little bitty pieces. Magic! No, not magic. Simple physics. The WTC buildings were just skyscrapers, built to the normal construction specs for such things in the early 60s. Conversely, the Pentagon was built as a military structure, designed and built to to be bomb-proof, with bomb-proof windows. That building was designed and built during WWII with the expectation that it may have to withstand direct, determined, and well-armed military attackers. So, of course the wings of a plane hitting such a thing would "shatter into little bitty pieces." Duh. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
Nice work bobby, It wasn't my theory it was yours. I just have enough sense to know what happens to moving object when they slam into concrete instead of glass. |
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