ah 32bit.

it is an intel DQ35JO 886 1333FSB mobo with ddr2 pcieglan GMA3100 video 12usb2 4 SATA If that helps
4x 1024Mb DDR2 800 ram
so the larger th bits my os can accept the more potential i have of getting the most out of my ram. what about clocking the ram? how do i get the sys to accept an overclocked ram, or is it like the cpu ? try it and see.. If possible i'd like to calculate it out first and try once.

also what is the safest max core temp for the Q6600

ah 32bit.

it is an intel DQ35JO 886 1333FSB mobo with ddr2 pcieglan GMA3100 video 12usb2 4 SATA If that helps
4x 1024Mb DDR2 800 ram
so the larger th bits my os can accept the more potential i have of getting the most out of my ram. what about clocking the ram? how do i get the sys to accept an overclocked ram, or is it like the cpu ? try it and see.. If possible i'd like to calculate it out first and try once.

also what is the safest max core temp for the Q6600

It'll start to throttle back above about 72C which is why I asked about the prog you are using to measure it. I have always tried to keep below 62C to leave a margin for error.

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ah 32bit.

it is an intel DQ35JO 886 1333FSB mobo with ddr2 pcieglan GMA3100 video 12usb2 4 SATA If that helps
4x 1024Mb DDR2 800 ram
so the larger th bits my os can accept the more potential i have of getting the most out of my ram. what about clocking the ram? how do i get the sys to accept an overclocked ram, or is it like the cpu ? try it and see.. If possible i'd like to calculate it out first and try once.

also what is the safest max core temp for the Q6600

It'll start to throttle back above about 72C which is why I asked about the prog you are using to measure it. I have always tried to keep below 62C to leave a margin for error.

F.

am using core temp 0.97.1 core temp beta. does this need adjusting?

Once i figure out the temp and how far i can push it with standard heatsinks and fans then i'll know how far can set the fsb to match, but whats a general guide for voltage increase to keep the system stable? and does anyone know what temp ranges this cpu like to run in before breaking down? and where is this temp monitor i here about?

Or better does anyone know this configuration of motherboard and cpu? How far it can be taken considering adequate cooling, and how far with standard cooling.

Air cooled or water cooled?

Cheers GT

Just watch your cpu temps.......55c is OK, if you start to get up around 60c, you are pushing a bit.

As for vcore, the more the merrier. But.....don't use anymore than you need to keep the rig stable.
Raise your FSB in small steps. You will reach a point where the rig either will not boot or will crash after running Doze for a small while.
At that point, give it a little dose of vcore.....it should respond by staying stable again.
Repeat process......
At some point, you will find that vcore increases are required for even very small increases in FSB....you are reaching the limits.
And I cannot EVEN get into the RAMifications (LOL) of the RAM speed and timing settings here.....would be WAY too involved.
I will only say the my experience for Seti crunching is to NOT try to OC the RAM....1:1 FSB/RAM clock ratio is generally considered to be the best in OCing circles.....and at any FSB you are likely to achieve, this should not be a problem with even moderately good RAM.

As for the opti app.......go to Crunch3r's site and get the app.....
If you let me know what OS you are running (32 or 64 bit), I can link you directly.....

Happy crunching!!!

windows 32 bit.. so i use the windows 32 sse3 appl or is it Windows x64 (EM64T/AMD64) as my cpu is emt64t 2.4g?

windows 32 bit.. so i use the windows 32 sse3 appl or is it Windows x64 (EM64T/AMD64) as my cpu is emt64t 2.4g?

You can only use 64bit apps with a 64bit OS. Since you're using 32bit Vista, you must use the 32bit apps.

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am using core temp 0.97.1 core temp beta. does this need adjusting?

I am using coretemp 0.95.4 and this is what I get for my overclocked Q6600:


Direct Link

I haven't used the version you are using but I tend to believe coretemp, in which case I would be worried about the existing temps and thinking about some AS5 under the cooler before even considering overclocking.

I also use Speedfan, which is well known for reading 15C high on these chips and the Speedfan - 15 temps agree with (my version) of Coretemp pretty well.

F.

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am using core temp 0.97.1 core temp beta. does this need adjusting?

FWIW, on my out-of-the-box Dell quads, Core Temp 0.97 reads about 15C higher than SpeedFan 4.33. No adjustments were made to either.

SpeedFan "feels" more accurate based on the HDA temp it shows, but that is purely a subjective opinion and YMMV.

[edit] Forgot the main reason for this post. The newer version of Core Temp may be "at fault", but again that's just an opinion. [/edit]

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am using core temp 0.97.1 core temp beta. does this need adjusting?

FWIW, on my out-of-the-box Dell quads, Core Temp 0.97 reads about 15C higher than SpeedFan 4.33. No adjustments were made to either.

SpeedFan "feels" more accurate based on the HDA temp it shows, but that is purely a subjective opinion and YMMV.

Actually, Speedfan reads 15C to low, and has to have an offset added. I use CoreTemp Beta also, and beleive what it reads.

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am using core temp 0.97.1 core temp beta. does this need adjusting?

FWIW, on my out-of-the-box Dell quads, Core Temp 0.97 reads about 15C higher than SpeedFan 4.33. No adjustments were made to either.

SpeedFan "feels" more accurate based on the HDA temp it shows, but that is purely a subjective opinion and YMMV.

Actually, Speedfan reads 15C to low, and has to have an offset added. I use CoreTemp Beta also, and beleive what it reads.

Sorry John, see the edit on my previous post.

Actually, Speedfan reads 15C to low, and has to have an offset added. I use CoreTemp Beta also, and beleive what it reads.

John, do you know if Speedfan reads low for other CPU's or only for the Core 2's? The reason I'm asking is that Speedfan shows the Northwood I'm typing this on at 54C which would be 69C with the adjustment. The house is cool and the PC is not OC'ed, has been seriously cleaned out recently and AS5 properly applied to carefully cleaned heatspreader and heatsink. 69C sounds high. I obviously can't try CoreTemp for comparison on this chip.
I'm not doubting your word, and better safe than sorry when in doubt. Just for my information.

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I've just downloaded Coretemp 0.97.1; it reads the same as my 0.95.4 on my Quaddie.

Can I refer you to this.

Following the guide convinced me that Coretemp was reading correctly (on my Asus P5B WiFi MoBo) and that Speedfan (which was reading 15C higher than Coretemp) needed a -15 offset on the core temperature readings. Notice that the "CPU" temp reading is never questioned in these discussions and mine is about 11C below the core readings from Coretemp and the adjusted Speedfan.

With all due respect to John Galt 007, if Speedfan is reading 15C LOW then my cores have been running at up to 82C for the last 6 months without a wimper and I just don't believe that.

F.

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I've just downloaded Coretemp 0.97.1; it reads the same as my 0.95.4 on my Quaddie.

Can I refer you to this.

Following the guide convinced me that Coretemp was reading correctly (on my Asus P5B WiFi MoBo) and that Speedfan (which was reading 15C higher than Coretemp) needed a -15 offset on the core temperature readings. Notice that the "CPU" temp reading is never questioned in these discussions and mine is about 11C below the core readings from Coretemp and the adjusted Speedfan.

With all due respect to John Galt 007, if Speedfan is reading 15C LOW then my cores have been running at up to 82C for the last 6 months without a wimper and I just don't believe that.

F.

That looks like a very good article. I'll read it in detail when I have time to study as it's a long read.

I think perhaps the main thing I'll take away from this discussion is that both you and John agree that Coretemp gives a more correct reading vs Speedfan. That also agrees with the "better safe . . " philosophy IF speedfan reads too low. Speedfan does indeed read about 15C cooler on all four of my Core2 machines.

As for whether or not the same applies to this Northwood, I can't OC it anyway so it's probably a moot point.

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I've just downloaded Coretemp 0.97.1; it reads the same as my 0.95.4 on my Quaddie.

Can I refer you to this.

Following the guide convinced me that Coretemp was reading correctly (on my Asus P5B WiFi MoBo) and that Speedfan (which was reading 15C higher than Coretemp) needed a -15 offset on the core temperature readings. Notice that the "CPU" temp reading is never questioned in these discussions and mine is about 11C below the core readings from Coretemp and the adjusted Speedfan.

With all due respect to John Galt 007, if Speedfan is reading 15C LOW then my cores have been running at up to 82C for the last 6 months without a wimper and I just don't believe that.

F.

That looks like a very good article. I'll read it in detail when I have time to study as it's a long read.

I think perhaps the main thing I'll take away from this discussion is that both you and John agree that Coretemp gives a more correct reading vs Speedfan. That also agrees with the "better safe . . " philosophy IF speedfan reads too low. Speedfan does indeed read about 15C cooler on all four of my Core2 machines.

As for whether or not the same applies to this Northwood, I can't OC it anyway so it's probably a moot point.

The only philosophy to follow when overclocking!

F.

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my new Quad Q6.600

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Greetings from Germany NRW
Ulli

G'day Ulli, what cooling system are you running in yours? and where to i find that cpuZ you have up?. would you go much more than 3.2G

Danka.. hope splet that right.. thanks

my new Quad Q6.600

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Greetings from Germany NRW
Ulli

G'day Ulli, what cooling system are you running in yours? and where to i find that cpuZ you have up?. would you go much more than 3.2G

Danka.. hope splet that right.. thanks

my new Quad Q6.600

Hit Me

Greetings from Germany NRW
Ulli

CPUZ is available from here

Ulli is being conservative. This is the max that I can get Prime95 stable on my Asus P5B D/L WiFi MoBo using a Thermaltake Ultra120 Extreme cooler:


Direct Link.

I've been running that 24/7 since about October.

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ok now i've worked out how far to go.. i go into my bios and guess what.. intel password, hunted around intel site for a while, haven't found this password which allows me to get into that part of the bios... very frustrating.

back in the day that wasn't an issue.

I don't have the box as i bought from the shop and not really to happy with there service so i won't go back there unless neccesary.

Is this password/key on the site or any suggestions where to go? i'm almost ready to email intel and ask for my key. but not sure on there policy for oc. looked at there warranty and the shops warranty, they pretty much don't cover me for anything except a busted semi conducter, but that would have gone by now or at towards the end of its service life. So i'm not too concerned about warranty as they cover nothing anyway.

So this password, are they the same for all this series.. or is it individual?

Thanks GT

You need to use the BIOS setup clearing jumper to reset the password refer to Page 58 of the manual.

If you don't have it look here:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?strState=LIVE&ProductID=2783&DwnldID=15038&agr=N&lang=eng&PrdMap=2783

HTH

UncleVom

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You need to use the BIOS setup clearing jumper to reset the password refer to Page 58 of the manual.

If you don't have it look here:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?strState=LIVE&ProductID=2783&DwnldID=15038&agr=N&lang=eng&PrdMap=2783

HTH

UncleVom

So this will get me past the intel pword.. it wont reset the intel pword will it. i'll be able to get into and modify the bus speed and voltage. this way?
Why would intel put this password on and then tell you how to disable it?

Why would intel put this password on and then tell you how to disable it?

Who ever sold you the system was the one that enabled & set the password.

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