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John McLeod VII Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0 |
If I recall the numbers correctly, that means that if 100% of your income is insufficient to pay the tuition, you can get financial aid. What about rent, eating, ... BOINC WIKI |
BrainSmashR Send message Joined: 7 Apr 02 Posts: 1772 Credit: 384,573 RAC: 0 |
What about rent, eating, ... You can't be serious, huh? The majority of my college jobs were in restaurants, thus killing both of those birds with one stone...one roommate cuts your expenses by 50%. ...and of course there are always the dorms for those wishing to live on campus and cafeteria meal plans available to all students. No one said it was easy, the implication is that it's FAR from impossible. |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Noam Chomsky has discussed this type of situation many times. So what? He does all this things that he decries others for doing. That's called hypocrisy. The coporate world and investor class preach the marvels of the free market and the disciplines of the free market. Exactly, the reality is quite different. They are doing exactly as you do: begging the gov't to meddle in the lives of others, and they claim it's for the common good. It's not, but they don't care, just as you don't care. They advocate the gov't doing what they think is in their best interests, just as you advocate the gov't doing what you think is in your best interest. That the two of you disagree doesn't matter. When profits are up, the free market is praised as the provider of all things good. Yep, because the gov't meddles in people's lives, and people who agree with you beg incessantly for the nanny state, womb to the tomb. The powerful are protected from the market while the weak are subjected to the full force of the market. Notice the irony here? Everyone has the right to beg the gov't for protection and plenty of people disagree with your position, yet you still think gov't meddling is a good idea. If it's weak that are subjected to the full force of the market, then that is true because the gov't enforces that on them. Happy? You see, it is the fact that people are able to do this, AND that gov't will respond that provides you this problem. Since gov't has caused this problem, it's ludicrous to suggest that MORE gov't will solve that problem. You can't have your cake and eat it too and more gov't will just cause more problems. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Let's eliminate the problem by turning the uneducated and unskilled into soylent green wafers to feed the educated and skilled, who will then be better energized to fulfill their assigned tasks from the master class. Let's eliminate the problem by removing the parts of gov't that enforce this stuff onto those that can afford it the least. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
Now tell me: He was worthy of nothing more and nothing less than he could earn, or convince others to to give to him. Beyond that "value" in that case has no meaning because neither you or I were employing him or supporting him. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
You automatically assume that people who've lost their jobs fall into those two categories. They haven't--they just aren't worth paying as much as they used to be paid. I wonder why their union doesn't just hire them? The system you so despise is there to protect everyone's common interests. Which, of course, it doesn't because it's difficult at best to define "common interests," and a collective never can. Are you going to mock the system when your house catches fire or when one of those unskilled people you speak of breaks into it? Firefighters and police are part of the SOCIALIZED system. Except that there is no reason firemen or police have to be part of any gov't system. That they are, doesn't mean that they must be. Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Rush Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3131 Credit: 302,569 RAC: 0 |
While income levels do have a direct link to educational levels, would you not agree that it is so much easier to receive a college education as a rich white male than a homeless brown person? Duh. I mean, so what? OF COURSE it is!! Would you not agree that is it so much easier to become a world-class marathon runner as a tall, thin, black male than a short, fat white male? "15,000 Brown People Dead Somewhere The Onion: November 18, 1998 | Issue 34•16 OOGA-BOOGA LAND OR WHEREVER–Relief efforts are pouring into some country someplace, where 15,000 brown people have died over the past few weeks from flooding or a hurricane or something like that. 'Never have our people endured such a terrible catastrophe,' said this one dark-skinned guy who lost his entire family in the disaster of some sort. 'Our God has forsaken us.' The affected nation may possibly be the same one where about 90,000 brown people died two or three years ago in that one earthquake." Is the correlation stating that education leads to income or is it more likely that income leads to education? Overwhelmingly, since almost anyone can borrow enough federally guaranteed money to pay for education, and has been able to for decades, the question is moot. I've met a few rich people. Not many. Funny, but the conversation never got around to whether they can read or not. So what, you figure he's just going to give that to you? Some people don't need to be able to read. But everyone else does. Plenty of people worldwide would consider you unimaginably wealthy because not only because you can afford a computer, but also because you can afford the leisure time to post here. Does their opinion of your reading skills have any bearing on you or who you give your money to? Cordially, Rush elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com Remove the obvious... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
they just aren't worth paying as much as they used to be paid. So what you are saying is that back when you were an employee your employer thought that you were worth something... But now that you are the employer you don't think that your employees are worth a crap... Funny how the money has followed YOU... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
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