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Chris Send message Joined: 11 Jan 08 Posts: 2 Credit: 73,500 RAC: 0 |
"CENTER OF THE BIBLE" |
Chris Send message Joined: 11 Jan 08 Posts: 2 Credit: 73,500 RAC: 0 |
Knowing what the Bible has to say is one thing, understanding what God has to say is another. |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
Um, I did not see the answer to one simple question ... The protestant bible, or the Catholic (which is longer)? I won't even go into the fact that we have, in some cases, hundreds of copies of some of the "chapters" and they have a wide variance in content. I will grant that the central theme is reasonably consistent throughout... but the "which version" is a much more complex question than it appears from picking up a new copy from the local Boarders... As far as "Bible Codes" goes, I think an Australian researcher also proved the existence of "Moby Dick" codes by using the same technology and techniques ... there are other anti-bible code pages out there too ... And since there are even minor variances in the Torah over historical time frames, you have to ask, which version of the bible is "THE" bible ... this is especially critical for the validity of the whole theory of bible codes ... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Knowing what the Bible has to say is one thing, understanding what God has to say is another. Understanding what the Bible has to say is understanding what God has to say, but most aren't there yet... 'Gods word is the same today as it was yesterday'... If it's not, then 'you have created your own god'... ;) (The large collection of the 'works of man' in the 'christian' section of the book store are a testament to this.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
Um, I did not see the answer to one simple question ... At one time, the protestant Bible was longer... Today, the Catholic Bible is longer... I have two versions of the Apocrypha, one is the King James version and the other is the Catholic version... ;) (Gods word doesn't change, people change Gods word.) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34394 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Um, I did not see the answer to one simple question ... The protestant bible is longer. The christian excluded some chapters of their own. But so far that i know there is an bible available which is near to the originial Its called new apostolian bible my sister has it. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
conspiracyman_2000 Send message Joined: 20 Sep 99 Posts: 4 Credit: 15,911 RAC: 0 |
I post something that is very interesting and one person has to try and start trouble. God help us. Well said... I am not a christian and I am glad for it. I did spend some time in a chruch of christ and I have never seen such hypocritical people in my life. I am a spiritual person and I do not believe in forcing anything on anyone. I believe we are all here for a reason and as intelligent beings, (for the most part) we need to find our own path and not be forced into some mold that society thinks is "correct". At any rate, there are many paths and no certain one is the "correct" one. they all lead to the same place. I wish you all well. AHO! Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect. Chief Seattle, 1854 |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
new apostolian bible Yet another 'new' church that thinks they have a monopoly on God... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
Paul D. Buck Send message Joined: 19 Jul 00 Posts: 3898 Credit: 1,158,042 RAC: 0 |
As they pointed out in the recent "Peanuts" cartoon that some of the questions that *I* would want answered aren't ... Did Jesus "own" a dog ... Only asked by people that don't live with dogs ... those of us that do knows who owns who ... :) After all, who gets up to go to work to buy the dog food and who stays home and sleeps all day ... well, my dogs bark at things ... and I stay home too ... :) But, you get my point ... And, I do know that I have not met a dog that did not deserve heaven a lot more than *I* do ... of course that is just one person's opinion. Of course, the one (or was it two) Gospels that did not make it into the canon that do cover the childhood of Jesus don't mention this question ... And I do find it interesting that the Koran does regard Jesus as a prophet ... though I did not manage to make my way all the way through (yet) ... I did find it interesting ... of course the English translations, if I understand the doctrine correctly cannot be taken as authoritative, it was still interesting reading ... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
And I do find it interesting that the Koran does regard Jesus as a prophet Not only a Prophet, but: 2:87 (Jesus was the only prophet filled with the Holy Spirit) We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the holy spirit. 3:45 (Jesus is the only prophet seated at the right hand of the Father) Behold! the angels said: O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah; 3:59 (Jesus was the only begotten prophet. Begotten meaning created, not offspring) The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was. 19:33-34 (Jesus was indeed resurrected) "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. 43:64 (John 20:17, Jesus' parting words) "For Allah, He is my Lord and your Lord: so worship ye Him: this is a Straight Way." 57:27 (But as predicted, this is what we have today) But the Monasticism which they invented for themselves, We did not prescribe for them: (We commanded) only the seeking for the Good Pleasure of Allah; but that they did not foster as they should have done. Yet We bestowed, on those among them who believed, their (due) reward, but many of them are rebellious transgressors. Same God, same Prophet... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
thorin belvrog Send message Joined: 29 Sep 06 Posts: 6418 Credit: 8,893 RAC: 0 |
When the Moslems believe in Jesus as a prophet of God, and the Jews believe in Jesus as a prophet of God, and the Christians believe in Jesus (as the Son of God, but also per se as a prophet) - why do they call each other "Unbelievers"? Oh, wait: Even Christian denominations call each other unbelievers despite believing in the same Bible, in the same Jesus, in the same God... Weird. Account frozen... |
Jeffrey Send message Joined: 21 Nov 03 Posts: 4793 Credit: 26,029 RAC: 0 |
believing in the same Bible, in the same Jesus, in the same God... In the 'christian' arena, that's debatable: II Corinthians 11:4 For if some one comes and preaches another Jesus than the one we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or if you accept a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough. Galatians 1:6-8 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and turning to a different gospel-- not that there is another gospel, but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we preached to you, let him be accursed. Gods word doesn't change, but people change Gods word... As predicted... ;) It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . . |
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