Evolution is one of my favorite topics.

You start an 'Evolution Thread'... I'll go pick up some books... We'll have some fun... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Is it just one book or is a compendium of books/writings more of an encyclopedia?

Stop making me break out my dictionary! ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Oh my God. I agree with BrainSmashR AND Robert on this one.

I have to go kill myself now.

Don't kill yourself yet as I think they are both wrong...


Evolutionist actually believe we evolved from a type of 'primordial snot'...

... and we are not "apes" - we are "SETI forum members"...


Actually thinking about it have we evolved at all?

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The term is primordial ooze and it's believed that ALL life evolved from that slime. Fast forward several hundred million years and you have a series of primates, one of which evolved into homosapiens.

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He's correct, Jeffrey, we are apes, not monkeys.

Not me... I evolved... ;)

(Anyway, as I recall, the 'monkey thing' was dismissed long ago. One could say: 'The religion got an update'.)

The "monkey thing" was never established. I told you, we are apes but you go right ahead and get your "science" from the book of all truth for the weakest minds.

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Because I believe in evolution due of the overwhelming amount of evidence which supports that theory...while the overwhelming lack of evidence (1 book) that supports creationism is why I do not believe in that theory.

Is it just one book or is a compendium of books/writings more of an encyclopedia?

That's very interesting...enough to make me look up the term for a specific definition, and it turns out an encyclopedia does not have to contain factual information.

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Evolutionist actually believe we evolved from a type of 'primordial snot'...
... and we are not "apes" - we are "SETI forum members"...
... Snip...

The term is primordial ooze and it's believed that ALL life evolved from that slime. ...

"Ooooze" - That's just a posh person's word for 'snot' ain't it? ;o)

... Fast forward several hundred million years and you have a series of primates, one of which evolved into homosapiens.

Yes and just after that we have Neanderthals and Homospaiens intermingling in Europa. (Having "nookie" in Romanian caves.. Yucky..)



I'm not sure which is worse:

. 'Evolving from ooozing snot' or 'having a hairy Neanderthal for an ancestor???'



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This is from the front page of today's UK Daily Mail

Travellers face price hikes and confusion after the Government unveiled plans to take up to 53 pieces of information from anyone entering or leaving Britain.

For every journey, security officials will want credit card details, holiday contact numbers, travel plans, email addresses, car numbers and even any previous missed flights. The information, taken when a ticket is bought, will be shared among police, customs, immigration and the security services for at least 24 hours before a journey is due to take place.

Anybody about whom the authorities are dubious can be turned away when they arrive at the airport or station with their baggage. Those with outstanding court fines, such as a speeding penalty, could also be barred from leaving the country, even if they pose no security risk.

The information is equired under the "e-borders" system to be introduced, beginning in earnest from mid-2009. By 2014 every one of the predicted 305million passenger journeys in and out of the UK will be logged, with details stored about the passenger on every trip.

The scheme will apply to every way of leaving the country, whether by ferry, plane, or small aircraft. It would apply to a family having a day out in France by Eurotunnel, and even to a yachtsman leaving British waters during the day and returning to shore. The measure applies equally to UK residents going abroad and foreigners travelling here.

A pilot of the "e-borders" technology, known as Project Semaphore, has already screened 29million passengers. Immigration Minister Liam Byrne said: "Successful trials of the new system have already led to more than 1,000 criminals being caught and more than 15,000 people of concern being checked out by immigration, customs or the police."

Comments anyone?

It is the Start of the New World Order!!!

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While all of this is being pounded into our heads, how much coverage is there over the nuclear weapons security in Pakistan right now?

It's terrible. How many news stories do you need about that?

The same thing happened when the Soviet Union collapsed with the help of the jackals from the Chicago School of Economics.

You do realize, that there is no "Chicago School of Economics," right? That it's just a school of thought? The Soviet Union collapsed under the weight of a worthless economic system that had nothing to do with the Chicago school--though they predicted that it would eventually fail. Mostly because the Soviet system was unsustainable, incapable of supporting itself. That that fact was true had nothing to do with F. A. Hayek laughing at their idiot economic decisions.

Nothing in the media about who had control of the launch codes.

I'm not sure those weapons even had/have PALs.

They don't want us thinking about those issues, instead, they have us afraid of the guy wearing a backpack at the bus stop.

A camera focussed on that bus stop will capture video of anything that might happen but is as much use against a terrorist as it would be against an ICBM coming in.

It's not about security.

Certainly not because you said so. For all the rhetoric, people are convicted using those cameras all the time. They come into court, they see the tape of themselves doing what they had intended to deny, and their barrister INSTANTLY advises them to plead guilty.

To be sure, NOTHING will deter someone who doesn't care if they die or not, but most of them do--it's human nature.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

The erosion of freedom begins with attitudes like the ones you've shown here.

Yet you have no problem when you choose to erode the freedom of others to choose not to hire you.

Note the irony there?

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Like 30 or more members of your SETI group...you contribute nothing.

I'd like to see you banned for what you've posted here.

Nice.

Should you be banned for what you've posted here?

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

You do realize, that there is no "Chicago School of Economics," right? That it's just a school of thought?

Denial or ignorance?

Take your little google search and tell me that again.

One of the great innovations of the University of Chicago's Economics Dep't has been to offer scholarships to students from the countries on which they have set their sights.

Once these "students" return to their home country, they end up highly placed in government positions and the influence of the Friedman cultists is complete.

Then we can sit back and watch the mass arrests and torture of those opposed.
It happens every time.

Like 30 or more members of your SETI group...you contribute nothing.

I'd like to see you banned for what you've posted here.

Nice.

Should you be banned for what you've posted here?

Are you sad because your team has so many 0's beside the majority of names? LOL

The erosion of freedom begins with attitudes like the ones you've shown here.

Yet you have no problem when you choose to erode the freedom of others to choose not to hire you.

Note the irony there?

What does a belief in the collective power of the workforce have to do with hiring?

I have never had a problem getting work because I believe that anyone earning a union wage should put in a hard days work to earn it.

If unions say that the best work is done by a union workforce, then we have to live up to it.
And I do.

Denial or ignorance?

Take your little google search and tell me that again.

One of the great innovations of the University of Chicago's Economics Dep't has been to offer scholarships to students from the countries on which they have set their sights.

I don't need a Google search as my bachelor's degree from DePaul is in Economics and Political Science. Should you wish to discuss the various differences between economic skools of thought, I am more than capable.

There is a difference between the University of Chicago Department of Economics, and the Chicago school of economic thought. One is a department of U of C, the other is a school of thought that has nothing to do with attendance at the U of C itself. There are plenty of Chicago school economists and Austrian school economists, none of whom have ever been to Chicago, the U of C, or Austria.

Once these "students" return to their home country, they end up highly placed in government positions and the influence of the Friedman cultists is complete.

Then we can sit back and watch the mass arrests and torture of those opposed.
It happens every time.

Why, because you sez it does?

That that crap happens has nothing to do with any particular school of economic thought, and everything to do with the willingness of humans to sometimes initiate force or fraud against others. That happens under every economic system and every political system because humans sometimes prey on each other.

That has nothing to do with economic theory.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

I'd like to see you banned for what you've posted here.

Nice.

Should you be banned for what you've posted here?

Are you sad because your team has so many 0's beside the majority of names? LOL

No, I couldn't care less what those people do or don't do.

The point of asking you if you thought you should be banned for what you have posted here was to note your willingness to ban others for points of view that you disagree with.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

What does a belief in the collective power of the workforce have to do with hiring?

Well, would you mind if the employer stopped hiring members of your union, or dismissed those that chose to join it?

No one is saying that there's anything wrong with collective bargaining power, as long as no one is forced to join or prevented from working.

I have never had a problem getting work because I believe that anyone earning a union wage should put in a hard days work to earn it.

I think that anyone who agreed to work for a wage that they agreed to work for should put in a hard day's work to earn it.

If unions say that the best work is done by a union workforce, then we have to live up to it. And I do.

Good. Just as many non-union workers do. Just as many union workers do not. Just as many non-union workers do not.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Denial or ignorance?

Take your little google search and tell me that again.

One of the great innovations of the University of Chicago's Economics Dep't has been to offer scholarships to students from the countries on which they have set their sights.

I don't need a Google search as my bachelor's degree from DePaul is in Economics and Political Science. Should you wish to discuss the various differences between economic skools of thought, I am more than capable.

There is a difference between the University of Chicago Department of Economics, and the Chicago school of economic thought. One is a department of U of C, the other is a school of thought that has nothing to do with attendance at the U of C itself. There are plenty of Chicago school economists and Austrian school economists, none of whom have ever been to Chicago, the U of C, or Austria.

Once these "students" return to their home country, they end up highly placed in government positions and the influence of the Friedman cultists is complete.

Then we can sit back and watch the mass arrests and torture of those opposed.
It happens every time.

Why, because you sez it does?

That that crap happens has nothing to do with any particular school of economic thought, and everything to do with the willingness of humans to sometimes initiate force or fraud against others. That happens under every economic system and every political system because humans sometimes prey on each other.

That has nothing to do with economic theory.

This is typical of many of your responses Rush.

The term Chicago School is synonymous with the far right wing teachings of the university's dep't of economics.

You can play around with words all day but there is a physical school where this crap is taught.
It is NOT simply a school of thought.

It's not because I sez it.
You need a new catch phrase.

That that crap happens has nothing to do with any particular school of economic thought, and everything to do with the willingness of humans to sometimes initiate force or fraud against others. That happens under every economic system and every political system because humans sometimes prey on each other.

That has nothing to do with economic theory.

In a country where the rule of law and democracy is healthy the predatory instincts of the powerful is minimalized.

When the the rights of citizens are disregarded in the drive to wealth and profit anywhere in the world, you'll find the Chicago School involved. Period.

Well, would you mind if the employer stopped hiring members of your union, or dismissed those that chose to join it?

No one is saying that there's anything wrong with collective bargaining power, as long as no one is forced to join or prevented from working.

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I've never been in a union before being hired by a company.
Once hired, one joins the union or opts out through the Rand formula which allows a working person the right to not join a union while still being part of the workforce.

Under the Rand ruling, a person has the option to not join from the beginning of employment or later, if unsatisfied with the union, one has 30 days from the signing of a new collective agreement to opt out.

Having pointed this out, I hope to see your pro-union posts starting soon.

This is typical of many of your responses Rush.

Really? What's typical of all of your responses is a complete lack of reasoning. Think that helps your position, or hurts it?

The term Chicago School is synonymous with the far right wing teachings of the university's dep't of economics.

You can play around with words all day but there is a physical school where this crap is taught.
It is NOT simply a school of thought.

Uh huh. OK. You said it, therefore it must be true. A quick note from Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_(economics):

"The term was coined in the 1950s to refer to economists teaching in the Economics Department at the University of Chicago, and closely related academic areas at the University such as the Graduate School of Business and the Law School. They met together in frequent intense discussions that helped set a group outlook on economic issues, based on price theory. The 1950s saw the height of popularity of the Keynesian school of economics, so the members of the University of Chicago were considered outcast. Famed economist Friedrich Hayek was teaching there because that is the only place he could find employment at the time [1].

"Not all economists within the the Department of Economics at the University of Chicago shared the beliefs in the 'Chicago school.' The U of C department, widely considered one of the world’s foremost economics departments, has fielded more Nobel Prize winners and John Bates Clark medalists in economics than any other university. Fewer than half of the professors in the economics department were considered part of the school of thought."

See the first and last lines? "Not all economists within the the Department of Economics at the University of Chicago shared the beliefs in the 'Chicago school.' Fewer than half of the professors in the economics department were considered part of the school of thought." That's because the U of C economic department teaches economics, not just a school of thought.

It's not because I sez it. You need a new catch phrase.

I use it when it applies. It applies a LOT.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...