That it is impossible to find any phone-number to any of the Seti leaders. Nor any mailadresses, i can find.
someone told me that setihome was designed to fool people. When I watch seti on national geograpic or discovery, they never mention that computers all over the world, are chewing data.
Why is that?
Is setihome reall or is it a gigantic swindle?

toby

That it is impossible to find any phone-number to any of the Seti leaders. Nor any mailadresses, i can find.
someone told me that setihome was designed to fool people. When I watch seti on national geograpic or discovery, they never mention that computers all over the world, are chewing data.
Why is that?
Is setihome reall or is it a gigantic swindle?

toby

What?? A norwegian?? ;-D You are SOOO welcome!!
Well.. I dont know, but I am real, even if im here as well. hehe

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That it is impossible to find any phone-number to any of the Seti leaders. Nor any mailadresses, i can find.
someone told me that setihome was designed to fool people. ....

Why do you need a phone number?

SETI isn't a project out to fool people.

SNIP...

When I watch seti on national geograpic or discovery, they never mention that computers all over the world, are chewing data.
Why is that?

...SNIP...

(tessa) Toby,

This is an issue I agree with you on.

I don't think the crunching part of SETI (SET@Home) is promoted or sold very well at all.

I've never seen a single item on TV or heard anything on radio that even promotes crunching for SETI in the slightest...

Odd hey for a project based upon mass community involvement to achieve it's task faster...

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Is setihome reall or is it a gigantic swindle?

I just crunch.. Not sure how they could swindle me.. :o)

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Why do you need a phone number?

To ask someone who might know, if I need my two computers to work on this.
Understand?
I take the idea of seeking for ET, seriously.
But I dont like to be fooled.

toby

Is setihome reall or is it a gigantic swindle?

I have no doubt that eventually distributed computing will be exploited and used as a piece of spy-ware... Personally, I don't see any signs of it yet, just the potential... But then again, I haven't been looking very hard either, being that this isn't my main computer but rather just an old and now obsolete play toy... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

This is an issue I agree with you on.

I don't think the crunching part of SETI (SET@Home) is promoted or sold very well at all.

I've never seen a single item on TV or heard anything on radio that even promotes crunching for SETI in the slightest...

Odd hey for a project based upon mass community involvement to achieve it's task faster...

I just crunch.. Not sure how they could swindle me.. :o)

I think one of the reasons is that people dislike having something on their computer they cannot control. I've put boinc on several systems for people, but once they've got them home, they've deleted it - only to find days/weeks later when they call, that they have even disabled the antivirus updates because they felt it slowed their machine down.

Yet they will quite happily have bit-torrent, limewire etc on their computers with no regard for the consequences.

I even have 1 customer whose service contract I actually cancelled & refunded his money because he kept disabling all protective software as he felt they were a nusiance - I just got fed up of resolving the same problems time & time again.

It's just people's perceptions. The big retailers don't really explain computer ownership to their customers. I get round the seti problem by telling people that computers are like cars, they need regular servicing & need to be kept ticking over just a car.

So far, so good. Between now & Xmas, several systems will be reaching their annual service date & the customers have requested that I put seti on them. I just have to persuade them if I can, to have them on my account(I'm a cheeky devil).

Guys,is it true that the data we process now gets stocked on shelves and r waitin for peeps to manually look for the possible ET signals?

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Why do you need a phone number?

To ask someone who might know, if I need my two computers to work on this.
Understand?

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tessa,

You can just use one of your computers if you like.

How many you use is up to you.

(If you don't want to use your second computer just don't run the BOINC application or the SETI project on it.)

The Cafe is a friendly place. Ask any questions you like.

There is always the "Number crunching" forum also for more technical questions.

SETI@home is separate from the SETI Institute. SETI is a term for Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, so is used by more than one group. The SETI Institute is probably what you saw. Confusion occurs when both are shortened to 'SETI'.

SETI@home is '...managed by a group of researchers at the Space Sciences
Laboratory of the University of California, Berkeley' (quoted from 2002 paper).

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Calm Chaos... are you feeling it yet?

Thanks for all your answers.
It still dont tell me what I asked for. I joined seti late in the 90´s.
Then the software was not called BOINK. It was called someting else, I dont remember what.
When they changed to boink, my previous data records was not included in
my new account. That was the first time I got suspicious.
I joined seti again after receiveing a reminder mail.

But I dont need my two computers do work for nothing. I just wonder if any of you acctuallu KNOWS that chewed data is ACCTUALLY used on Berkely.

Hope someone kan give an answer. I dont need this forum. I´v got
my parrot birdforum to attend to. I dont like to waste my time for nothing.

SETI@home is separate from the SETI Institute. SETI is a term for Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, so is used by more than one group. The SETI Institute is probably what you saw. Confusion occurs when both are shortened to 'SETI'.

SETI@home is '...managed by a group of researchers at the Space Sciences
Laboratory of the University of California, Berkeley' (quoted from 2002 paper).

Thanks for your answer, purplemkayel. You told me what I wantet to know.
But do they use our computers?
And for what purpose?

toby

Thanks for all your answers.
It still dont tell me what I asked for. I joined seti late in the 90´s.
Then the software was not called BOINK. It was called someting else, I dont remember what.
When they changed to boink, my previous data records was not included in
my new account. That was the first time I got suspicious.
I joined seti again after receiveing a reminder mail.

But I dont need my two computers do work for nothing. I just wonder if any of you acctuallu KNOWS that chewed data is ACCTUALLY used on Berkely.

Hope someone kan give an answer. I dont need this forum. I´v got
my parrot birdforum to attend to. I dont like to waste my time for nothing.

Tessa,

I get the feeling you are saying you used to have a "SETI CLASSIC" account and you are wondering why the units you crunched for that are not now added to your the newer "SETI@Home" system?


Are you talking about an older "SETI Classic" account?

SETI@home is separate from the SETI Institute. SETI is a term for Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, so is used by more than one group. The SETI Institute is probably what you saw. Confusion occurs when both are shortened to 'SETI'.

SETI@home is '...managed by a group of researchers at the Space Sciences
Laboratory of the University of California, Berkeley' (quoted from 2002 paper).

Thanks for your answer, purplemkayel. You told me what I wantet to know.
But do they use our computers?
And for what purpose?

toby

I imagine someone else may explain the following better. I don't have a huge understanding of it.
The signals that are found are currently stored on a database. They have started work on a 'near persistency checker' that will compare signals found in similar space. I found the following link useful for gaining a small understanding of what they are planning.
SETI@home Plans

Also, concerning your previous SETI@home. The SETI@home before Boinc is now fondly called SETI@home Classic. If you click on my name, you will see information listed about my participation with SETI@home Classic. I will take a wild guess that you have no information showing as you rejoined in 2006 with a different email address than the one you used with Classic.

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Happy birthday Calm Chaos!!! Terrible twos?


Calm Chaos... are you feeling it yet?

I will take a wild guess that you have no information showing as you rejoined in 2006 with a different email address than the one you used with Classic.

You are right. Who keeps the same mail-adress for ten years? :)

I get the feeling you are saying you used to have a "SETI CLASSIC" account and you are wondering why the units you crunched for that are not now added to your the newer "SETI@Home" system?


Are you talking about an older "SETI Classic" account?

You are right. The software then was called SETI Classic.
Well, thanks for answering. I think i will quit my seti participation
after theese information. It does not seems to have any reall meaning anymore.

toby

"It does not seems to have any reall meaning anymore" ?

It means the same today as it did when it started ... we are helping to look for signs of life

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like take off eh! to The Great White North

"It does not seems to have any reall meaning anymore" ?

It means the same today as it did when it started ... we are helping to look for signs of life

I agree, it means the same to me as the day I started... difference being they are now able to work towards using the information that everyone has been processing... :)

@Tessa: I only just recently changed my email address, although I still have the old one :)

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Happy birthday Calm Chaos!!! Terrible twos?


Calm Chaos... are you feeling it yet?

I will take a wild guess that you have no information showing as you rejoined in 2006 with a different email address than the one you used with Classic.

You are right. Who keeps the same mail-adress for ten years? :)

Me and the kitties.........

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SNIP..
You are right. The software then was called SETI Classic.
Well, thanks for answering. I think i will quit my seti participation
after theese information. It does not seems to have any reall meaning anymore.

tessa,

Look at it this way:

All those units you crunched on SETI-Classic helped build the foundations of the SETI@Home project that we have today.

The software has changed. The reason and purpose of crunching for SETI remains the same.

Did you have a lot of credits in SETI Classic?

SETI in all of its variations, not just Seti@home is a long endevour that consumes a lot of time and computer calculations. It will take decades just to get a foundation for a deeper analyzis. This is something people tend to forget. If information is waiting on the shelves for a few years that is not a problem scientifically.
The breakthroughs, if any, will take a looooooooong time. And after going through everything we will perhap's only have learnt that there is no one sending in the limited range we are scanning at the time we have looked. But, then we will have learnt to look elsewhere, and look differently and probably in a lot better fashion.
Toby, Seti@home is not nor never was a swindle or hoax. If you really want to call someone you can go through the switchboard of the UCLA (one of the largest and most esteemed universities in the known world) and they might patch you through.
Perhaps you still prefer to talk to the parrakeets, but if not, you are more than welcome to in a very miniscule way further one of the more interesting and underfunded sciences.

Carl Rehnberg, Ph.D.
President, Center for Advanced Simulation

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