And to think- after not crunching SETI for several months, and hoping that maybe Berkeley had figured out the problems - so I came back again - spent several hours re-optimizing and loaded up my caches with 8 days of work, and started to get validation errors on returning work. What a complete waste of time and energy!!!!!

WASTED $$$$ on POWER !!! - $$$$ I spend on power should not end up with validation errors because this silly problem.

I guess I need to go back to doing what I was doing, crunching for a project that does not have so many problems.


Aborting - resetting the project, and going leaving again. I am not going to crunch for a project that continues to have these sorts of problems --- continually -

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And to think- after not crunching SETI for several months, and hoping that maybe Berkeley had figured out the problems - so I came back again - spent several hours re-optimizing and loaded up my caches with 8 days of work, and started to get validation errors on returning work. What a complete waste of time and energy!!!!!

WASTED $$$$ on POWER !!! - $$$$ I spend on power should not end up with validation errors because this silly problem.

I guess I need to go back to doing what I was doing, crunching for a project that does not have so many problems.


Aborting - resetting the project, and going leaving again. I am not going to crunch for a project that continues to have these sorts of problems --- continually -

... and as luck would have it, there's always someone who's going to come back during our bad times and complain about it.


Bye!

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And to think- after not crunching SETI for several months, and hoping that maybe Berkeley had figured out the problems - so I came back again - spent several hours re-optimizing and loaded up my caches with 8 days of work, and started to get validation errors on returning work. What a complete waste of time and energy!!!!!

WASTED $$$$ on POWER !!! - $$$$ I spend on power should not end up with validation errors because this silly problem.

I guess I need to go back to doing what I was doing, crunching for a project that does not have so many problems.


Aborting - resetting the project, and going leaving again. I am not going to crunch for a project that continues to have these sorts of problems --- continually -

... and as luck would have it, there's always someone who's going to come back during our bad times and complain about it.


Bye!

Hey dummy - check my stats - I think I have a right to complain

And for someone that is a "moderator" you sure know how to start an unneeded flame war!

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And to think- after not crunching SETI for several months, and hoping that maybe Berkeley had figured out the problems - so I came back again - spent several hours re-optimizing and loaded up my caches with 8 days of work, and started to get validation errors on returning work. What a complete waste of time and energy!!!!!

WASTED $$$$ on POWER !!! - $$$$ I spend on power should not end up with validation errors because this silly problem.

I guess I need to go back to doing what I was doing, crunching for a project that does not have so many problems.


Aborting - resetting the project, and going leaving again. I am not going to crunch for a project that continues to have these sorts of problems --- continually -

... and as luck would have it, there's always someone who's going to come back during our bad times and complain about it.


Bye!

Hey dummy - check my stats - I think I have a right to complain

And for someone that is a "moderator" you sure know how to start an unneeded flame war!

Well I am a moderator too. Sorry you chose to try coming back to the project when they are having a problem. Things have actually been more reliable around here lately. Those of us who are steady Seti supporters have been discussing the problem in this thread and trying to find a common cause so it can be addressed by the admins. If you feel that you do not want to stick around while the problem is being sorted out, I can understand that. Please come back in a week or two, or check back in this thread to see how it's going.
But please do so in a polite rational manner. The folks in this forum have no control over the problem, we are just discussing it.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

I don't suppose this will be of much help, but I have also been affected by the validation errors, but only 3 of about 40 completed during 1st to 3rd November were marked as such. In each case, the task was completed successfully by another host, which would imply that there was a problem with my computer. these were all with my dual core G5 Mac 2881519 (but it does not surprise me that this was the only one affected as it far exceeds the total turnover of my other 2 computers running SETI). But, as this has only happened just recently, and is randomly, it seems, also affecting others, there seems to be no doubt it is something at the SETI end.

Details of the 3 work units are as follows:-

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646603669 173561557 28 Oct 2007 21:56:09 UTC 1 Nov 2007 3:08:25 UTC Over Validate error Done 13,353.81 --- ---
Workunit details
created 28 Oct 2007 21:56:01 UTC
name 10fe07af.4661.96906.7.6.91
646603669 2881519 28 Oct 2007 21:56:09 UTC 1 Nov 2007 3:08:25 UTC Over Validate error Done 13,353.81 --- ---
649140457 2952522 1 Nov 2007 8:12:44 UTC 2 Nov 2007 23:35:39 UTC Over Success Done 23,186.73 91.4 91.4
646603670 3579571 29 Oct 2007 1:28:40 UTC 29 Oct 2007 14:30:19 UTC Over Success Done 34,396.80 91.4 91.4


647151159 173819936 29 Oct 2007 10:38:33 UTC 1 Nov 2007 19:50:16 UTC Over Validate error Done 12,070.10 --- ---
Workunit details
created 29 Oct 2007 9:11:45 UTC
name 10fe07ag.9206.14388.9.6.23
649705640 3961594 2 Nov 2007 7:07:34 UTC 5 Jan 2008 14:58:35 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- ---
647151159 2881519 29 Oct 2007 10:38:33 UTC 1 Nov 2007 19:50:16 UTC Over Validate error Done 12,070.10 --- ---
647151158 2735674 29 Oct 2007 18:43:17 UTC 30 Oct 2007 7:01:53 UTC Over Success Done 11,961.79 81.08 pending


649188520 174774956 1 Nov 2007 13:02:16 UTC 3 Nov 2007 14:01:23 UTC Over Validate error Done 11,377.21 --- ---
Workunit details
created 1 Nov 2007 4:31:34 UTC
name 11fe07ag.28804.25021.7.6.96
650940319 --- --- --- Unsent Unknown New --- --- ---
649188520 2881519 1 Nov 2007 13:02:16 UTC 3 Nov 2007 14:01:23 UTC Over Validate error Done 11,377.21 --- ---
649188519 3331609 1 Nov 2007 9:17:51 UTC 2 Nov 2007 8:48:54 UTC Over Success Done 13,720.05 73.6 pending
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Keith

And to think- after not crunching SETI for several months, and hoping that maybe Berkeley had figured out the problems - so I came back again - spent several hours re-optimizing and loaded up my caches with 8 days of work, and started to get validation errors on returning work. What a complete waste of time and energy!!!!!

WASTED $$$$ on POWER !!! - $$$$ I spend on power should not end up with validation errors because this silly problem.

I guess I need to go back to doing what I was doing, crunching for a project that does not have so many problems.


Aborting - resetting the project, and going leaving again. I am not going to crunch for a project that continues to have these sorts of problems --- continually -

... and as luck would have it, there's always someone who's going to come back during our bad times and complain about it.


Bye!

Hey dummy - check my stats - I think I have a right to complain

And for someone that is a "moderator" you sure know how to start an unneeded flame war!

Well I am a moderator too. Sorry you chose to try coming back to the project when they are having a problem. Things have actually been more reliable around here lately. Those of us who are steady Seti supporters have been discussing the problem in this thread and trying to find a common cause so it can be addressed by the admins. If you feel that you do not want to stick around while the problem is being sorted out, I can understand that. Please come back in a week or two, or check back in this thread to see how it's going.
But please do so in a polite rational manner. The folks in this forum have no control over the problem, we are just discussing it.

Thanks, Mark...You took the words right out of my keyboard. I guess I don't get as worked up about this stuff as I used to.

On Topic, I haven't noticed anymore errors from my machines, but haven't really checked since this morning.

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Clk2HlpSetiCty:::PayIt4ward

Well I am a moderator too. Sorry you chose to try coming back to the project when they are having a problem. Things have actually been more reliable around here lately. Those of us who are steady Seti supporters have been discussing the problem in this thread and trying to find a common cause so it can be addressed by the admins. If you feel that you do not want to stick around while the problem is being sorted out, I can understand that. Please come back in a week or two, or check back in this thread to see how it's going.
But please do so in a polite rational manner. The folks in this forum have no control over the problem, we are just discussing it.

Thanks, Mark...You took the words right out of my keyboard. I guess I don't get as worked up about this stuff as I used to.

On Topic, I haven't noticed anymore errors from my machines, but haven't really checked since this morning.

Thank you too. Those of us who are here almost every day and have seen the problems come and go tend to go into analysis mode when it happens rather than just P&M about it. I'd much rather contribute to a possible solution if I can rather than just complain about the problem. (Not that we don't all express our dismay now and then...LOL)!
I'll have the kitties release the day's crunching probably after midnight some time when I get home and see what happens.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

geeks,BFD

Has the validation error problem been quietly resolved during the day today? My last validation error occured this morning, actually about 9 hours ago.

Are you still seeing the error occur??

Has the validation error problem been quietly resolved during the day today? My last validation error occured this morning, actually about 9 hours ago.

Are you still seeing the error occur??

Are you psychic?? I was just thinking the same thing!!

My latest run on the boxes I am monitoring has shown no Validation errors during the last 12 hours.

F.

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Has the validation error problem been quietly resolved during the day today?

I wish I could say it was resolved, but I can't promise it will stay fixed. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems. But we're trying.....

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@SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon)

Has the validation error problem been quietly resolved during the day today?

I wish I could say it was resolved, but I can't promise it will stay fixed. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems. But we're trying.....

Thanks Eric for taking the time to look into the problem, especially on a Weekend.

Has the validation error problem been quietly resolved during the day today?

I wish I could say it was resolved, but I can't promise it will stay fixed. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems. But we're trying.....

Thanks Eric for taking the time to look into the problem, especially on a Weekend.

I second that. Thank you Eric from taking time away from your weekend.

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Has the validation error problem been quietly resolved during the day today?

I wish I could say it was resolved, but I can't promise it will stay fixed. Nothing is ever as simple as it seems. But we're trying.....

Thank you very much for stopping in Eric!

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

The kitties just turned the network on and they are kinda bummed....after 7 rigs reported the work done since this morning, I still managed to snag about 12 validation errors between them.
The problem is not fixed yet.

Will turn the network back off and try another batch tomorrow morning.

This has been another message from the kitty warning network.......

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

For what its worth, On the two old machines that I run, I seem to have skipped getting any Validate Errors so far this time (touch wood). During past rashes, of the validate errors, they were fairly susceptable so maybe there is a clue there somewhere, a difference in client, app or settings maybe (besides being old machines). Then again maybe just good luck this time :D

Jason

[Oh I did mobilise a few base ships, but they never managed to locate any trouble, let alone fire off any shots ... ]

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"Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions.

Looking through my task list across all computers here on SETI, I don't see any validate errors either (I may have had some which have subsequently been purged, but since they tend to hang around for the re-issue, I would have expected to have seen some if they were as common for all hosts as people have been saying). I'm running BOINC v5.10.13 with a connect interval of 0.01 days (just under 15 minutes), so that's the usual interval between upload and report.

However, I did get a validate error on Beta overnight. Here's the log:

03/11/2007 22:31:05|SETI@home Beta Test|Computation for task 03mr07aa.5457.5798.3.9.6_2 finished
03/11/2007 22:31:05|SETI@home Beta Test|Starting 03mr07aa.28548.3753.4.9.124_2
03/11/2007 22:31:05|SETI@home Beta Test|Starting task 03mr07aa.28548.3753.4.9.124_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527
03/11/2007 22:31:08|SETI@home Beta Test|[file_xfer] Started upload of file 03mr07aa.5457.5798.3.9.6_2_0
03/11/2007 22:31:16|SETI@home Beta Test|[file_xfer] Finished upload of file 03mr07aa.5457.5798.3.9.6_2_0
03/11/2007 22:31:16|SETI@home Beta Test|[file_xfer] Throughput 8054 bytes/sec
03/11/2007 22:31:29|SETI@home Beta Test|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work
03/11/2007 22:31:29|SETI@home Beta Test|Requesting 4308 seconds of new work, and reporting 1 completed tasks
03/11/2007 22:31:44|SETI@home Beta Test|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]

So the work request happened to trigger a report just 13 seconds after the upload finished: more evidence that the 'Return Results Immediately' clients are most at risk in the current batch?

Hey dummy - check my stats - I think I have a right to complain

First off, "dummy" is grounds for starting a flame war. Saying "bye" is not. Just because one has a right to complain, doesn't mean one can't do so in a more constructive manner.

And for someone that is a "moderator" you sure know how to start an unneeded flame war!

By telling you "bye"? Heaven forbid! If you recognize an "unneeded" flame war, why respond in such a way that will further it by calling me a "dummy"? It's amazing that this Moderator tag gets me put up on such a pedestal that I cannot respond in kind to people, but it's perfectly OK for them to be jerks about it. It's a two-way street, regardless of the Moderator tag.

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Hey dummy - check my stats - I think I have a right to complain

First off, "dummy" is grounds for starting a flame war. Saying "bye" is not. Just because one has a right to complain, doesn't mean one can't do so in a more constructive manner.

And for someone that is a "moderator" you sure know how to start an unneeded flame war!

By telling you "bye"? Heaven forbid! If you recognize an "unneeded" flame war, why respond in such a way that will further it by calling me a "dummy"? It's amazing that this Moderator tag gets me put up on such a pedestal that I cannot respond in kind to people, but it's perfectly OK for them to be jerks about it. It's a two-way street, regardless of the Moderator tag.

Ozz, don't worry about it. Looking at his posting history (under this and previous user names), you're not the first, and probably won't be the last, user to feel the non-constructive side of his personality.

His computers are hidden, so we can't analyse exactly what went wrong. But looking at his team affiliation, and his posting history, I think we can guess. BOINC v5.9.0 (Crunch3r) with RRI, anybody?

It never ceases to amaze me how some of the most competitive spirits here can spend enormous amounts of time, mental energy, electrical energy and equipment purchase cost (Kevin posted, while he was still Kevin, that he didn't have the use of any company or school computers: all those hidden hosts had been purchased with his own money): yet still have no idea how to work with BOINC, rather than against it. Maybe Kevin and others could apply some of the philosophy of Jiu-Jitsu to their competitiveness?

Ozz, don't worry about it. Looking at his posting history (under this and previous user names), you're not the first, and probably won't be the last, user to feel the non-constructive side of his personality.

Yeah. I think you're right.

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