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Message 628528 - Posted: 28 Aug 2007, 23:38:03 UTC

New hard drive in a laptop
HP zv5410

replaced the old drive
it will NOT boot from any windows disk, XPhome or pro. It tries for ~10secs then moves on to the hard-drive. We copied the install CD I bought with the machine and that didn't work. We've tried other windows CD's that have installed windows, and we've tried other brand new disk - all do the same thing. They are original install disks, not copies or upgrade disks.

BIOS has been checked and double checked and it's all good. Hit 'esc' on power-up and manually select CD to boot to and nothing, it still tries and moves on. Hit f10 and checked the drive - it's good.

It did however boot automatically from a linux CD, so we installed that OS and it's running nicely (64bit ubuntu). So we know the CD hardware etc works. Even wireless works :)

I like linux - but I need windows for software I use that is only windows based.

I know this isn't really a seti question - but this lappie was doing seti till the drive died.

Ideas on why this lappie will not accept a windows CD?

Thanks
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Message 628543 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 0:21:45 UTC
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This has probably already been checked, but is the bios set to boot from CD, then HD. Not HD then CD? Basically, set the CD to first over all other devices.
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Message 628549 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 0:33:49 UTC

Astro - yup that has been checked

I'm going to check jumpers on the old and new drives.
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Message 628550 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 0:34:30 UTC

Have you tried in BIOS to load BIOS default settings and then installing windows ?
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Message 628558 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 0:48:30 UTC
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was there any formatting software with the new drive? If you know the manufacturer, most have tools you can format with. The hitachi drive fitess tool even lets you set all the MBR bits to "0", like an erase.

Nevermind.

It's not even reading the CD drive is it(except for the linux cd? So my suggestion is stupid.

OK, What if the install disk is a DVD and the reader is a CD???
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Message 628565 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 1:02:43 UTC - in response to Message 628549.  


I'm going to check jumpers on the old and new drives.


Yes - some laptops has CD/DVD set as master and harddrive as slave.
Most harddrive has CableSelect (no jumper) as default setting - but not all.

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Message 628576 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 1:16:28 UTC - in response to Message 628528.  

New hard drive in a laptop
HP zv5410

replaced the old drive
it will NOT boot from any windows disk, XPhome or pro. It tries for ~10secs then moves on to the hard-drive. We copied the install CD I bought with the machine and that didn't work. We've tried other windows CD's that have installed windows, and we've tried other brand new disk - all do the same thing. They are original install disks, not copies or upgrade disks.

BIOS has been checked and double checked and it's all good. Hit 'esc' on power-up and manually select CD to boot to and nothing, it still tries and moves on. Hit f10 and checked the drive - it's good.

It did however boot automatically from a linux CD, so we installed that OS and it's running nicely (64bit ubuntu). So we know the CD hardware etc works. Even wireless works :)

I like linux - but I need windows for software I use that is only windows based.

I know this isn't really a seti question - but this lappie was doing seti till the drive died.

Ideas on why this lappie will not accept a windows CD?

Thanks


My Toshiba Laptop would not boot from XP either. I wanted to format and just load windows without all their crap but couldn't seem to manage but it would boot up from their restore disc. tried getting it to start on their disc and switching to windows and that didn't work.

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Message 628590 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 1:46:29 UTC
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Here's how to reset to default Bios:

Reloading the default settings
Complete the following steps to reload the factory installed BIOS Setup settings:
In the BIOS Setup utility, select the Exit tab.
Select Load Setup Defaults .
Select Save Changes and Exit (pressing F5 and the Enter key will also load the Setup Defaults).
Press Esc and then Enter to exit Setup.


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Reset the boot order to the default settings
Use the following steps to reset the boot order to the default settings:
Turn on or restart the computer.
While the display is blank, press the F10 key to enter the BIOS settings menu.
Press the F9 key to reset the BIOS to default settings.
Press the F10 to save the changes and exit the BIOS settings menu.


this is the default boot settings:

Floppy diskette drive
Optical drive (DVD, CD-ROM)
Hard drive
USB device
Network adapter
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Message 628595 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 1:56:22 UTC

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Message 628602 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 2:06:55 UTC
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According to HP, the bios should show the HD as "primary master" and the optical drive as "secondary master". does it? does it recognize it at all?
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Message 628692 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 4:23:52 UTC

May just be a bad CD/DVD drive...

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Message 628730 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 7:02:42 UTC - in response to Message 628692.  
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May just be a bad CD/DVD drive...


Possible idea to try.

A colleague of mine had a similar problem. Came to me & no matter what I tried, it would not boot.

Took out HD & put in in an external box, connected to my system - bingo, came up as drive T.

I then formated it & installed windows XP Pro.

Checked all settings in laptop - no problems.

Booted up sweetly. If you have or know someone with an external 2.5 box, try it. you have nothing to lose.

{edit} Also, if it works & it is a fairly large drive, partition it into 2 drives & keep all data on D, that way if C plays up, you won't lose your files. {edit}
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Message 628805 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 13:06:51 UTC

digesting the ideas and we'll try 'em.

Let you know later

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Message 628964 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 17:19:47 UTC

Question: Did the CD ask 'Press any key to boot from CD' and if it did did you press any key?

Windows' install CDs have a feature that if they see OS installed in hard drive the CD will not boot by default. (I'm not sure how the check works - if it's only a byte or two it could see random data as OS.)

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Message 629194 - Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 23:24:55 UTC
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Juha - not it didn't ask.

We fixed it. Simply reloaded the factory default BIOS setting, which as far as we could see didn't make any changes to the BIOS, but after saving the 'changes' it exited and started to boot from my original winCD just fine. Something must have been messed up inside the BIOS that isn't shown on the screen.

Tonight windows goes on, tomorrow ubuntu goes back on.

Thanks everyone

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Message 629707 - Posted: 30 Aug 2007, 18:27:39 UTC

fixed

reloaded the default BOIS settings

go figure
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Message 629709 - Posted: 30 Aug 2007, 18:32:36 UTC
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Who'd have figured it?? Why that's "Urs Echternacht" in the forth post of the thread....that's who...

good to hear.
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