I can't help but wonder if Seti users are also dropping out...I had some good hard earned money in that RAC. Oh well, guess I will build a couple quads and Maybe I can hit 10,000 RAC again.

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I can't help but wonder if Seti users are also dropping out...I had some good hard earned money in that RAC. Oh well, guess I will build a couple quads and Maybe I can hit 10,000 RAC again.

I put my E6600 on 'no new tasks'. I have about 5 days worth of WU's left, guessing.

I'm down 25% at the moment at 1,550 vs normal of 2020 and as you can see below, it ain't pretty. I'm still in a death spiral.

When my WU's run out, if I'm still down 25% I'll likely switch at least half of my crunch over to Prime.

If it's even lower than 25%, I'll likely switch it all over.

I've heard horror stories of those that are experiencing an even bigger drop percentage wise than I am :-(

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Mine has fallen sharper than the Stock Markets. With the current bottle neck causing so many hung downloads, and that coming on top of the reduced multiplier, some people are bound to drop out.

Once the units on the Mac finish, i'm going to stop for a while. Would rather save the electric bill, than have computers on for no reasons. I know I could crunch for some other projects, but I started with seti and would like to stay loyal, although I did taste the other side with Rosetta.

Hopefully everything will be sorted out in a couple of weeks, then i'll have a new mac pro to throw at the multiphased transporter beasm thingymajiggy.

I'm not dropping out - I just can't seem to get any new work! Oh, and I have three q6600s and a couple of E6600s, RAC was over 14k, now I'm not sure if it can be maintained above 10k... Guess it depends on if work actually starts flowing at a regular rate and stops -9ing out.

-Dave

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My RAC has dropped from just over 6400 to 3300. I plan on staying with SETI as long as I can. Just been doing some Riesel Sieve on the side to help keep the farm running. I know that the guys in the lab are doing their best with what they have. Once the download bottleneck is straightened out everything should be back to normal. Might take the Mac offline till Alex Kan can code a new version of his app. I really like seeing a WU with a time to completion of 76 hours, getting it done in 16, and only getting 54 odd credits for it. I love the time to completion estimates when they are REALLY off. I thought I had switched over to CPDN for a minute.

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My RAC has dropped from just over 6400 to 3300. I plan on staying with SETI as long as I can. Just been doing some Riesel Sieve on the side to help keep the farm running. I know that the guys in the lab are doing their best with what they have. Once the download bottleneck is straightened out everything should be back to normal. Might take the Mac offline till Alex Kan can code a new version of his app. I really like seeing a WU with a time to completion of 76 hours, getting it done in 16, and only getting 54 odd credits for it. I love the time to completion estimates when they are REALLY off. I thought I had switched over to CPDN for a minute.

If you're looking for Mac BOINC work, that isn't SETI, here are your (PPC) choices with constant work:

yoyo@home
SZTAKI Desktop Grid
Leiden Classical
The Lattice Project
Einstein@Home
World Community Grid
Rosetta@Home
WEP-M+2 Project (only PPC/Mac & Linux boxes)

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Between running out of work and having hung downloads for 16 hours and longer I have retired my farm to wait and hope the bottle neck clears and downloads come to successful completions. I have one system that runs Rosetta along with Seti and I will keep that one running both projects. From a RAC of 12,000 I am now producing about 300 points a day and my electric bill has decreased by 60%.
I don't mind the added cost but realistically only when it is working normally can I justify the added expense.

I wish the Berkeley staff luck and success in fixing the problems. I do understand the limiting factors they are working under and I will stick with this project to the bitter end but just hold off on the actual work my systems are committed to. This should also lighten the load they have to deal with not by much but still a bit they won't have to contend with.

Hang in there Guys I am and wait for the repairs to complete, then I can Crunch on.

Hank

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My two computers have cleared their d/loads and bad units, before 0:100 UTC and now crunching good work. Pending credit has doubled during time I was asleep here in UK.

Andy

you spoke to soon... even tho the servers report having work units available i still can't get work units from seti.

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you spoke to soon... even tho the servers report having work units available i still can't get work units from seti.

If you are refering to my previous, then no I was still downloading work, until my Pent M d/loaded an AR=0.24 unit with 'time to completion' of 09h:20m when 0.42 are taking just under 3 hrs. The C2D is not crunching, son is playing new game.

Looking at mt start date class people are dropping out and switching projects...It is funny how these projects sabotage themselves just because they can...

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you spoke to soon... even tho the servers report having work units available i still can't get work units from seti.

The server status page is stuck again. It has not been updated for close to 10 hrs.

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A few months ago we had people moaning that all the WUs they were seeing were over 5 years old, or that we were re-crunching old work that had been done before.

Now we are actually seeing NEW WORK that has come out of Arecibo this year. Beta testers have been working on MultiBeam for over a year, helping to get the the new apps and data to SETI Main.

If you are here for the science as well as the credit, then you will weather this storm. The Project Staff are doing their best on a limited budget to keep the biggest distibuted computing project in history running.

I guess some people are only happy when they have something to moan about !

Regards, Keith

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A few months ago we had people moaning that all the WUs they were seeing were over 5 years old, or that we were re-crunching old work that had been done before.

Now we are actually seeing NEW WORK that has come out of Arecibo this year. Beta testers have been working on MultiBeam for over a year, helping to get the the new apps and data to SETI Main.

If you are here for the science as well as the credit, then you will weather this storm. The Project Staff are doing their best on a limited budget to keep the biggest distibuted computing project in history running.

I guess some people are only happy when they have something to moan about !

Regards, Keith

[warning: intended humour ahead]
I wanna complain that this post is off topic. I mean how dare someone use common sense here???

All I have to say is; "How dare you?"
LOL
It's not like someone's getting treated different from the others. We're all in the same boat, treated the same, as a percent, RAC's should stay the same in comparison to those of others.

[warning: intended humour ahead]
I wanna complain that this post is off topic. I mean how dare someone use common sense here???

All I have to say is; "How dare you?"
LOL
It's not like someone's getting treated different from the others. We're all in the same boat, treated the same, as a percent, RAC's should stay the same in comparison to those of others.

Astro, I'm not sure if your humor warning applies to the last sentence of your posting, but I've been thinking about that over the last couple of days.

There are several threads in the NC forum with people b*tching about their RAC, posting what seem to hourly updates of their RAC charts, or whining to have the muliplier reset to its previous value. Everyone who crunches for S@H has taken the same haircut. If you're in a race with other on your team or in the S@H universe, their RAC probably took approximately the same whack as yours did.

I'm betting that the RACs of today are artificially depressed by the lasck of WUs and the preponderance of units that quickly error out. If one cannot deal with a lower RAC, go crunch another project. If one cannot spread one's so-called "loyalty" beyond S@H, turn off your friggin' computer(s), and find something else in life to devote your energies to.

Me? I'm just glad to have finally picked up almost a day's worth of SETI units this morning. And then I suspended network activity to do a little bit to reduce the burden.

QS

[warning: intended humour ahead]
I wanna complain that this post is off topic. I mean how dare someone use common sense here???

All I have to say is; "How dare you?"
LOL
It's not like someone's getting treated different from the others. We're all in the same boat, treated the same, as a percent, RAC's should stay the same in comparison to those of others.

Astro, I'm not sure if your humor warning applies to the last sentence of your posting, but I've been thinking about that over the last couple of days.

There are several threads in the NC forum with people b*tching about their RAC, posting what seem to hourly updates of their RAC charts, or whining to have the muliplier reset to its previous value. Everyone who crunches for S@H has taken the same haircut. If you're in a race with other on your team or in the S@H universe, their RAC probably took approximately the same whack as yours did.

I'm betting that the RACs of today are artificially depressed by the lasck of WUs and the preponderance of units that quickly error out. If one cannot deal with a lower RAC, go crunch another project. If one cannot spread one's so-called "loyalty" beyond S@H, turn off your friggin' computer(s), and find something else in life to devote your energies to.

Me? I'm just glad to have finally picked up almost a day's worth of SETI units this morning. And then I suspended network activity to do a little bit to reduce the burden.

QS

I personally am in a hurry to find ET. I want to crunch as many units as quickly as I can. I firmly believe that the day ET is proven it will change the whole World. I believe it will be so profound that even terrorists will take a step back. I think it will make us one step closer to becoming Earthings instead of American or Arab or anything else. We will all finally have a reason to stand together as Humans. Maybe I am wrong but I hope I am right...

I find it funny that people that haven't invested much in Seti tell those of us that have to move on....

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I personally am in a hurry to find ET.

Me too.

I want to crunch as many units as quickly as I can. I firmly believe that the day ET is proven it will change the whole World.

Could be possible.

I believe it will be so profound that even terrorists will take a step back.

Not to sure about that one ... i think they'll claim it's ALLAH an will continue to pester the world with their actions.

I think it will make us one step closer to becoming Earthings instead of American or Arab or anything else.

We will all finally have a reason to stand together as Humans. Maybe I am wrong but I hope I am right...

We allready could have done that... blame religion, ill believes for that one...
For example have a look at what the christian church did to sience in the middle age... though of the earth turning around the sun ...well you got burned for that one...

Religion is still our worse enemy !

I find it funny that people that haven't invested much in Seti tell those of us that have to move on....

I agree , though i have to add that i do not believe that searching for RADIO signals in the sky is the way to go...

Ever heard of quantum teleportation ( not sure if i translated tha correctly into english)...

I i had to communicate over some light years distance i would have used that one cuz allmost in an instant the quatum changes done at my place would have happened towards the ones on the destination i wanted to reach.

(i'm sure that my translation is totally screwed... if someone understands what i'm talking about and could put that into some usable sientific english, i'd be glad to be corected)

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I personally am in a hurry to find ET. I want to crunch as many units as quickly as I can. I firmly believe that the day ET is proven it will change the whole World. I believe it will be so profound that even terrorists will take a step back. I think it will make us one step closer to becoming Earthings instead of American or Arab or anything else. We will all finally have a reason to stand together as Humans. Maybe I am wrong but I hope I am right...

I find it funny that people that haven't invested much in Seti tell those of us that have to move on....

Well, the kitties have been nervously watching their RAC drop like most others. From about 25,800 to under 21,000 and still falling.
But the kitties are not moving on. We intend to crunch it out. Perhaps when things stabilize and maybe the AR of the MB WUs has a better day.......my RAC will as well.

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Beating A Dead Horse Alert...

@hiamps: How do you know you are that much closer to finding ET? All we are doing is mapping wu's into a set of results and storing those beasties into the data closet. (Think Write-Only-Memory) I don't think anybody is actually analyzing our results at all.

Who knows: maybe when they do the will find we are doing it wrong and we'll have to reprocess the entire 300M a second (or more) times!??

Well, the kitties have been nervously watching their RAC drop like most others. From about 25,800 to under 21,000 and still falling.
But the kitties are not moving on. We intend to crunch it out. Perhaps when things stabilize and maybe the AR of the MB WUs has a better day.......my RAC will as well.

It's a mix of both AR and MB. Things as it happend now with the release to S@H Main arn't anywhere near a balance towards cross project parity (though that idea is impossible to reach ) nor a balance towards speed improvement/credit reduction of the new S@H stock app (5.27) compared tho 5.12, 5.15 and 5.17.

IT has allready been mentioned that the new stock app is NOT the final one because the reduced multi to 2.85 wasn't inteded to be FIXED!

it is/was more intended to be a "base" multiplyer on which further changes are based on.

We've seen unusual low credit claims and high crunching times before that. Mainly on those unliked 58 Credit WUs... (line feed WUs)

The intension WAS that using a base multiplyer (2.85) and adjust the "claim" to match more the crunching times ...

Unfortunately the changes for the stock app supporting that feature got "LOST" (same for the chicken code ...we didn't knew about that one )and that WILL result in a new release for both STOCK APP (5.28) and a new optimized chicken app.

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