I am so glad I live in England.

Same chance of being killed by medical intevention but less chance of dying because you don't have the money. (Universally the 4th highest cause of death is medical intervention..)My taxes are high but I know everyone will be served.

That's simply untrue.

No. It is very true... I am glad I live in England..

I would also like to live in other countries but I am so glad I live here .

I am so glad I live in England.

Same chance of being killed by medical intevention but less chance of dying because you don't have the money. (Universally the 4th highest cause of death is medical intervention..)My taxes are high but I know everyone will be served.

That's simply untrue.

No it is very true... I am glad I live in England..

I would also like to live in other countries but I am glad I live here.

I would love to live in other countries, I hate living here. THis is not the country I was born and raised in any more..............

You´re not serious Chris?

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

I would love to live in other countries, I hate living here. THis is not the country I was born and raised in any more..............

Where would you like to be?

I am so glad I live in England.

Same chance of being killed by medical intevention but less chance of dying because you don't have the money. (Universally the 4th highest cause of death is medical intervention..)My taxes are high but I know everyone will be served.

That's simply untrue.

No it is very true... I am glad I live in England..

I would also like to live in other countries but I am glad I live here.

I would love to live in other countries, I hate living here. THis is not the country I was born and raised in any more..............

You´re not serious Chris?

Perfectly serious Mike.

Germany impresses me as does Canada. Both are countries where you don't get dirty streets, graffiti, ignornant kids, people respect each other, and family ties are strong. If I could afford it I would sell up and move, but her indoors wouldn't go......

Its the same here.
We have those here too.
I just have the luck to live in a family you´de love to.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

In my opinion health care should be available for everyone, and not only a rationed kind of so-called "basic health care" - because this is just a little more than first-aid! IMHO a rich land like the USA, (with approximately $114,384 per household) simply can't afford such a poor health care system. If every person - both, natural and legal persons - paid just 2% of their income into one big national health care insurance, no-one would have to suffer from poor medical treatment!

Which, of course, is simply untrue because of the great variance in health care needs. Especially given that generally, 80% or more of the money spent per individual is done at the end of one's life, and can dwarf 2% of their income.

Not to mention of course, since the entire incentive to drive health care costs down has been removed, costs will continue to rise.

Did it ever cross your mind that your opinions often have no basis in reality whatsoever? And you read that chart wrong.

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Cordially,
Rush

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I do not own a cell phone.
I do have a color TV, 13", purchased around Christmas 1997.
Shall I go on?

Since you seemed to have missed the point entirely, that's up to you.

Oh, and if I could not get bread or something similar, would I be posting right now?

Maybe try substitution here. Maybe your computer would work in place of mobile phone in the example? Maybe the leisure time you have to post here would work as well, given that you don't have to spend every waking moment scraping to buy some (really really really cheap) bread?

Humor can illustrate so well...

Too bad there wasn't any in your post.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Did it ever cross your mind that your opinions often have no basis in reality whatsoever?

Yea... We got that part... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

I do not own a cell phone.
I do have a color TV, 13", purchased around Christmas 1997.
Shall I go on?

Since you seemed to have missed the point entirely, that's up to you.

Oh, and if I could not get bread or something similar, would I be posting right now?

Maybe try substitution here. Maybe your computer would work in place of mobile phone in the example? Maybe the leisure time you have to post here would work as well, given that you don't have to spend every waking moment scraping to buy some (really really really cheap) bread?

Humor can illustrate so well...

Too bad there wasn't any in your post.

Not gonna argue with you, Rush.
Bigger fish to fry and MUCH MORE important tasks to attend to off-line.
Believe it or not, you have my respect.
If time allows and I feel like it, I may PM you some additional explanation.
In either case, TTYL.

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

No matter the debate, we live in the only remaining super power on the planet but have a health care policy run by the insurance companies with the funded blessings of our elected representitives.

If you truly believe we could not have a socialized medical system for financial reasons then I believe you need to do more research.

The joke is on us, people.

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

No matter the debate, we live in the only remaining super power on the planet but have a health care policy run by the insurance companies with the funded blessings of our elected representitives.

Why? Because people have begged the gov't to meddle. Absolutely begged it to "regulate" (you know, to save us) health care, and hence prices are driven up.

If you truly believe we could not have a socialized medical system for financial reasons then I believe you need to do more research.

True.

The joke is on us, people.

And brother, you asked for it.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
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Why? Because people have begged the gov't to meddle. Absolutely begged it to "regulate"

I believe Government forced itself upon us using 911 as an excuse to do so...

But going along with your view of the situation, my response is:

We highly 'misunderestimated' the entity from which we sought justice... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

Good point Jeffrey,

Should we need to beg our country for medical care when we could go to Cuba tomorrow and be treated for free? Can anyone tell me what Cuba exports to make it work for their citizens? Canada? England? France? And why was one of the 911 rescue workers able to buy her lung spray medicine for 5 cents when she pays $120 here in America?

If we can socialize the postal service, police, and fire departments, then why would the governments only response to Moore's movie be to run a federal investigation on him to see if they can bury the guy in red tape and multi million dollar penalties when all he did was take four 911 rescue workers to Cuba to be treated for respiratory illnesses that their insurance companies wouldn't cover?

Look past the Cold War and ask yourself what socialism has to do with us today.

McCarthyism is dead and buried, or is it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

This red threat tactic is the lamest of the lame and is not fallen for by many any more.


Scroll down to see a senator's response to Moore's offer to debate the issue.




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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Our fearless leader

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Just Downloaded and watched. Man! I'm moving to France!! lol I loved how everywhere Moore went in Canada & Europe, people looked at him like he just sprouted antlers every time he asked them, "So ..... how much did this cost you?". lol
"NOTHING? " lol

But seriously, the Good American People should be Angry, Disappointed, Ashamed and FED UP with their government and for profit healthcare. There are some good lines from the movie that stuck with me; "If you can find money kill people, you can find money to help people." "It's about we not me." .

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I believe Government forced itself upon us using 911 as an excuse to do so...

Actually, and significantly more accurately, "Government forced itself upon us using" the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.

But going along with your view of the situation, my response is:

We highly 'misunderestimated' the entity from which we sought justice...

You "sought justice" from a collective, something it is generally incapable of providing because it is simply a non-thinking extension of force.

Good plan.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Should we need to beg our country for medical care when we could go to Cuba tomorrow and be treated for free? Can anyone tell me what Cuba exports to make it work for their citizens? Canada? England? France? And why was one of the 911 rescue workers able to buy her lung spray medicine for 5 cents when she pays $120 here in America?

Now there's an interesting point. She bought that lung spray medicine. Give that some thought....

OK, done?

Where exactly did that person buy it? Did she buy it from the huge multi-national Cuban pharmaceutical giants? How about the Cuban gov't, where does it get its medical equipment and supplies--figure it buys them from other branches of the Cuban gov't?

And if it doesn't buy it from itself, where does it get it, and why must it do so?

If we can socialize the postal service, police, and fire departments, then why would the governments only response to Moore's movie be to run a federal investigation on him to see if they can bury the guy in red tape and multi million dollar penalties when all he did was take four 911 rescue workers to Cuba to be treated for respiratory illnesses that their insurance companies wouldn't cover?

How about this, why don't you guys, everyone who thinks this way, just get together and you guys pay for your medical care yourselves? Leave me out, I want no part of this. But there's nothing stopping you guys from doing it yourselves.

What are you waiting for? I mean, if that type of system is soooo brilliant, what are you waiting for? Get to it!

People are dying.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Your a confusing guy, rush,

Are you for or against universal medical coverage?

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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." - Dr. Seuss

Your a confusing guy, rush,

Are you for or against universal medical coverage?

I'm not sure what you mean by the question.

I would prefer that medical care was in the normal stream of commerce, and therefore, in general, nearly everyone could afford it, just like they can with mobile phones, color TVs, computers, and bread. I would prefer that Big Pharms had to compete for customers and regularly and actively tried to utterly destroy the other, just like Dell, IBM/Lenovo, and Gateway do, thus driving prices down.

I do no support any sort of forced payment scheme such as the European/UK/social welfare pyramid scheme of rationed health care, or a "one-payer" system. It's not free, they do pay (dearly) for it, and they have no control whatsoever over it. They simply cannot take their money somewhere else for better care.

So, if you mean "universal" as in every single person in a given area (state, country, whatever) would be entitled to "medical coverage" by virtue of the fact that they are within that area, and are taxed dearly to pay for it, then no, I'm not.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

You "sought justice" from a collective, something it is generally incapable of providing because it is simply a non-thinking extension of force.

First our families failed to provide...
Then the church failed to provide...
Then corporate america failed to provide...
Then the government failed to provide...
I'm guessing we'll turn to the rich next, who will also, fail to provide...

Despite the size and wealth of any 'collective', they are all equally useless and hostile to the masses... ;)

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It may not be 1984 but George Orwell sure did see the future . . .

First our families failed to provide...
Then the church failed to provide...
Then corporate america failed to provide...
Then the government failed to provide...
I'm guessing we'll turn to the rich next, who will also, fail to provide...

Despite the size and wealth of any 'collective', they are all equally useless and hostile to the masses...

Yeah. Exactly. That's why running to them, begging them to save you is futile.

None of them have any duty to provide (maybe family).

Your best bet would be to quit worrying about what others do with their lives and provide for yourself. If you get rich doing so, you can pay for health care for everyone else if you feel so inclined.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...