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Message 595960 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 16:49:54 UTC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity

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Message 595965 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 16:53:27 UTC

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Message 595973 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 17:05:01 UTC - in response to Message 595960.  
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Biting the hand that feeds them.

When I heard of Lech Walesa's Solidarnosc movement the first time I thought he was a traitor, even that he was bought (or at least heavily influenced) by some "Western" country.
It wouldn't have been the first time that some Western countries or their secret services tried to spread discontent and to sow rebellion into "socialist" countries.
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Message 595974 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 17:06:34 UTC


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Message 596018 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 18:19:11 UTC

Haven't heard much of Lech Walesa's Solidarity movement lately. When was that? 1989? Maybe it was overshadowed by the breakup of the Soviet Union, a little later. Maybe Tianenman Square and the breakup of the Berlin Wall had something to to with that, too. Weren't they both 1989?
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Message 596023 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 18:24:50 UTC - in response to Message 595960.  

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Message 596028 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 18:32:40 UTC - in response to Message 596018.  

Haven't heard much of Lech Walesa's Solidarity movement lately. When was that? 1989? Maybe it was overshadowed by the breakup of the Soviet Union, a little later.


It was overshadowed by the impending wave of opportunism.

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Message 596034 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 18:44:34 UTC - in response to Message 596028.  
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Haven't heard much of Lech Walesa's Solidarity movement lately. When was that? 1989? Maybe it was overshadowed by the breakup of the Soviet Union, a little later.


It was overshadowed by the impending wave of opportunism.

Perhaps, but that doesn't diminish the bravery of the Polish people who faced down an awful dictatorial government, which eventually led to freedom and democracy for her people, and free religious expression. Maybe people in your own country asked the same question some years after your revolution. Wasn't one of the objects of your War of 1812 a land grab for what is now Canadian territory?
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Message 596044 - Posted: 30 Jun 2007, 18:59:49 UTC - in response to Message 596034.  
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Haven't heard much of Lech Walesa's Solidarity movement lately. When was that? 1989? Maybe it was overshadowed by the breakup of the Soviet Union, a little later.


It was overshadowed by the impending wave of opportunism.

Perhaps, but that doesn't diminish the bravery of the Polish people who faced down an awful dictatorial government, which eventually led to freedom and democracy for her people, and free religious expression. Maybe people in your own country asked the same question some years after your revolution. Wasn't one of the objects of your War of 1812 a land grab for Canadian territory?


No, of course it doesn't diminish the achievements of the movement. But as history shows, time goes by, and the unfortunate disease of opportunism seeps in.

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Message 596381 - Posted: 1 Jul 2007, 4:45:18 UTC

Ah ... awful dictatorial governance!
And the unfortunate disease of opportunism!
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Message 596510 - Posted: 1 Jul 2007, 9:16:47 UTC - in response to Message 596060.  
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Perhaps, but that doesn't diminish the bravery of the Polish people who faced down an awful dictatorial government, .....


We have some very nice Polish people renting the house next door at the moment. To hear them talk of their homeland you'd think it was still the same. And no they are NOT plumbers!!!

Hi Chris. I can tell you that all mother ever talks about is 'her' country. She was taken as a slave by the Nazis in WW2 to Germany and now the UK government will not let her visit Poland - her UK travel document says she can visit any country, except for Russia or Poland. I have asked the UK Home Office if they will let her visit Poland to see the village in which she was born, to visit with the people that she knew, but they said they will confiscate her travel document if she tried. Nice world eh?

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