> > I can't see ANYONE saying that cellphone stats are more important than
> getting
> > the background servers working and keeping all 20k of us still left
> informed!
> > (the last part is important!)
> >
> >
> Its not unless they just got a wireless sponser.
>
> "These stats are brought to you by T-Mobile. If it's not T-Mobile, it's not
> T-reffic!"
>
>
> P.S. To T-Mobile: Use my slogan and you'll get sued. :P


Maybe they need a "hotkey" to text message SNAP when things are Fubar!

Whatever happened to the "kinder, gentler" Woody we were beginning to like?

> > > I can't see ANYONE saying that cellphone stats are more important
> than
> > getting
> > > the background servers working and keeping all 20k of us still left
> > informed!
> > > (the last part is important!)
> > >
> > >
> > Its not unless they just got a wireless sponser.
> >
> > "These stats are brought to you by T-Mobile. If it's not T-Mobile, it's
> not
> > T-reffic!"
> >
> >
> > P.S. To T-Mobile: Use my slogan and you'll get sued. :P
>
>
> Maybe they need a "hotkey" to text message SNAP when things are Fubar!
>
>

> >
> > > When there are different interpretations that could be had then
> maybe
> > they can
> > > assign the individual working on cell phone data to the task of
> > providing
> > > accurate news that doesn't need to be debated as to the
> interpretation
> > there
> > > of....

> There was a not so subtle point, I think, that might have been lost in my
> observation...
>
> gr.
> George

I don't think anyone missed your point. It's based on the idea that a more detailed news item would be less ambiguous.

If there is some finite probability that any given word will be misinterpreted, then doubling the number of words just doubles the likelihood that someone will misinterpret the article as a whole.

... and it seems that we have plenty of empirical evidence right here.

Certainly if every single news item, no matter how benign, is subject to such scrutiny then they're probably off with __less__ news, not more.

Well, now that we have THAT fixed, can we please think about
turning back on the ability to check results data via the Web
site, please?

(note to BOINC devs - the population of sah users/contributors
who can use cell phone stats can be shown to be strictly less
than the population which can use Web-based stats, since every
one has a computer, but at least one does not have a cell phone -
that would be me. just fyi)

Dave

So, what you're saying Woody is that in your career, you've never ever run up against a problem that was so difficult that you wondered (privately) if you'd be able to solve it?

If so, then you wouldn't understand the value of some small success when things are looking bleak.

> > One of my mentors calls this kind of thing a "success exercise" -- when
> you
> > need to do something good just to prove that everything isn't bad.
>
> I don't know if you're in the US, but that's what Geiko uses in their ads...
>
> "but I saved 15% on my car insurance"
>
> In the case of an ad, it might work... In the case of a deminishing user
> base, it just says "we'll tell you what we want and not address issues!"
>
>

Shesh, I try to relax a little tonight and see what happens.

Per the checkin notes of the feature:

David 9 Sept 2004
- Added support for stats access via WAP (for cell phones)
(from Carl Christensen)

html/
inc/
userw.inc
wap.inc
user/
opsw.php
userw.php


So this feature was actually developed by Carl Christensen, who is the project lead at CPDN.

Today I was working on the client-side CPU scheduler, and David was working on the validator. Several issues had to be resolved from Jeff's changes, otherwise we wouldn't had been any better off.

----- Rom
BOINC Development Team, U.C. Berkeley

> Shesh, I try to relax a little tonight and see what happens.
>
> Per the checkin notes of the feature:
>
> David 9 Sept 2004
> - Added support for stats access via WAP (for cell phones)
> (from Carl Christensen)
>
> html/
> inc/
> userw.inc
> wap.inc
> user/
> opsw.php
> userw.php
>
>
> So this feature was actually developed by Carl Christensen, who is the project
> lead at CPDN.
>
> Today I was working on the client-side CPU scheduler, and David was working on
> the validator. Several issues had to be resolved from Jeff's changes,
> otherwise we wouldn't had been any better off.
>
> ----- Rom

Rom, If you take the time to write this information here why cant you put it on the front page. Most of this thread and peoples concerns just disapear then. I'm sorry but I just do not understand why information cannot be put on the front page.

People are interested, they feel part of the project and in order for that to happen they need to know what is going on at base.

Just soem thoughts :)

Neil

> I think Woody has a valid point here. Personally It seems to be running better
> and I am hopeful things will continue to improve.... but time would probably
> be better spent on other areas than cell phone data display at the moment. For
> instance Pending credit on the web working I would put ahead of that. I will
> continue to support the project but there are probably other priorities I
> personally would have focused on.

I most definitely agree with you!

Why would anyone want to access their stats on a mobile phone.
It defies belief.
Having said that "each to his own"

Try this stats: http://slavko.sk/wap/seti
With searching of user by name and other features, like take a look on computers ...

;o)))



S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club © member

> Why would anyone want to access their stats on a mobile phone.
> It defies belief.
> Having said that "each to his own"
> <img> src="http://boinc.mundayweb.com/seti2/stats.php?userID=778&trans=off">

Totally agree

Neil

> I think Woody has a valid point here.

Has he? If his assumptions were right maybe, but again he started writing right before he finished reading.

> Personally It seems to be running better
> and I am hopeful things will continue to improve.... but time would probably
> be better spent on other areas than cell phone data display at the moment.

The BOINC developers do everything to stabilize and improve the whole framework. The only time they spend on this feature was to check it in, the programmming was done by others. And there is no reason why other developers shouldn't improve other parts of the BOINC framework and then note this in the news.

---

KEINE PANIK

Why would anyone want to access their stats on a mobile phone.
It defies belief.
Having said that "each to his own"
============

hehe, PoorBoy just rolled his eyes when he seen that Info on the Main Page...Why would anyone want to use their Cell Phone to see that their Stats haven't changed for the last Month is beyond me... :/

It's reassuring to know that the deckchairs are tidy on the Titanic.



Giskard - the first telepathic robot.

Seeing how this the most important thing in my life (not) i am so glad i can get BY CELL that i have not been given any credit because nothing seems to work the way it is suppose to. Hey guy's people want to see that they are doing something give us a validator / and results / or at least let us see credits pending!!!!

Well guys you should give it a try before complaining. I just did and guess what?
It's not working !!!! hahahahaha

Well guys you should give it a try before complaining. I just did and guess what?
It's not working !!!! hahahahaha
==========

So I take it then it's running Normal like everything else around here... :/

It works, it's 15:00 CEST.



S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club © member

And I'm using my wap page to check for credit, I may check it from every where and it helps me a lot.
I don't have to be at home or at work to see if WEB page works, it was a few times when It was shuted down. In that case I don't have to check my crunching PC's.
I have made a WAp page to reading news from main page. Also I see it usefull, to check for that even when I'm in pub and drinking a beer. Because it is an evening here in Slovakia and it is a morning in Berkeley, which can caus some new news posted.
And I have many reason to use such a check from cell phone.
If you don't like, don't use it.
Link to read news from main page (shows 1st 3 items from any RSS Feed, feed address is in link, just change it to read another feed):
http://slavko.sk/wap/rssread/Default.aspx?url=http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/rss_main.php
Link to my statistics wap page I already posted in this thread.



S@h Berkeley's Staff Friends Club © member