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Message 579683 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 11:03:13 UTC

Hi all,

I found in my account information, in the "Pending Credit" part, that I got three pending credits, while in the "Results" part, I got four pending credits, is that normal? I've never seen such things before.
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Message 579686 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 11:14:29 UTC - in response to Message 579683.  

Hi all,

I found in my account information, in the "Pending Credit" part, that I got three pending credits, while in the "Results" part, I got four pending credits, is that normal? I've never seen such things before.


One of them has the status "Checked, but no consensus yet"
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Message 579687 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 11:16:40 UTC

Funny you should see that, I just posted similar in Einstein. But we decided it was BOINC server problem and I posted there. Ageless opened a defect Ticket#125.

I will add this thead, as further evidence.

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Message 579768 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 15:09:45 UTC

The server code has been modified, though we cannot expect to see immediate results. I assume it will be in the next release of server code and then we will only see it after the project(s) install this new code.
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Message 580169 - Posted: 2 Jun 2007, 10:50:05 UTC
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In my pending file I have 11 pending, dating as far back as 05/17. Does anyone know the reason for this?
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Message 580188 - Posted: 2 Jun 2007, 12:29:20 UTC - in response to Message 580169.  
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In my pending file I have 11 pending, dating as far back as 05/17. Does anyone know the reason for this?


There are tens (possibly hundreds) of thousands of ghost workunits currently allocated to hosts which will not be reissued until they time out. Ghosts have been discussed in many other recent threads.

It is possible for users to release their ghosts early, but many do not read these boards, or may not want to go through the process, so we will just have to wait longer than usual for credit to be granted.
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Message 580367 - Posted: 2 Jun 2007, 19:37:11 UTC

I see my pending credit accumulating. It's over 3,000, the highest I've ever seen. But that still is only a bit over a daysworth for me. I'm not alarmed - yet. It's probably the aftereffect of those broken servers.
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Message 580391 - Posted: 2 Jun 2007, 20:13:18 UTC

I currently have 29,203.19 credits pending. I suspect it's largely the effect of the 1000's of ghost WUs that were generated when the server code got borked. They must be holding up the quorum on many, many WUs. As they expire and get reissued, things should settle down again, but it will be a bit, I suspect.
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Message 580428 - Posted: 2 Jun 2007, 21:07:46 UTC
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Large caches people set because of the outage probably contribute a bit. Just means RAC's will keep going up slowly for a bit...I did reset all my cache to 4 days since things seem back on track, will reset to 3 next week.

Hmmm, just a thought...But would it be better for those of us with fast machines to keep them set at 7 days so they will continue to do the short expiration ones in a hurry? Wouldn't most of these be the ghosts being resent?
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Message 580662 - Posted: 3 Jun 2007, 8:57:14 UTC

What about setting SETI to 'Get no new work' and let it calculate all that has been accumulated until now and then start from scratch ? Okay, bad idea if SETI should crash again in the meantime...but this way one should get it's cache clear...
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Message 580677 - Posted: 3 Jun 2007, 9:44:59 UTC

2 Notes:
1) If you upgrade to a newer version of BOINC, it allows "connect to the internet= x" and "additional work buffer= x". This allows WU's to report fairly promptly while still keeping a good buffer to ride out outages.
2) I did a quick look at my "ghosts" that I received(?) during the SW fiasco and most were paired with valid host/WU combos and people have received credit. Only 1 out of 30 some ghosts is "held-up", it looks like that WU had 2 ghosts and 1 "real" WU. It will be mid-June before it is re-issued.

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Message 580691 - Posted: 3 Jun 2007, 11:02:13 UTC

Ok it was said you could clear up the gost yourself. How is this done?
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Message 580695 - Posted: 3 Jun 2007, 11:24:01 UTC - in response to Message 580691.  

Ok it was said you could clear up the gost yourself. How is this done?


See this thread. You can also look at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39558 and a few others from the last few weeks with "ghost" in the title.
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Message 580696 - Posted: 3 Jun 2007, 11:28:04 UTC
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You can do that by detaching from the project, but you will dump all the results that are onboard your machine as well. Also, it won't get rid of the 'messiness' in your account listings, since they won't go away until the the WU is fully completed.

Personally I wouldn't worry about it and just let them timeout on their own. So what if it means some work hangs around for awhile pending? It makes zero difference overall to anyone's stats if a WU sits pending until the cows come home as long as you get credit for it eventually. OTOH, it does force the project to issue a potentially useless result to someone else needlessly.

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