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Message 579423 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 0:12:53 UTC - in response to Message 579421.  
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Yep, it is Core Duo (Yonah), not Core 2 Duo (Merom), with SSE3, not SSSE3.



Whatever, seems as all is quite clear now.

@Ivailo Bonev,

just out of curriosity why did ya choose the BSD daemon as avatar ? Hopefully you're not putting yourself in the pain of using BSD :P

hehe....


It's my favorite OS (using on my home machines since ver.4.5), it's a stable, clean and very well documented free operating system. Beasty daemon here is another story, I see somewhere in the net this pic, and I suddenly loved it, becowse its a combination of a BSD Daemon (favorite OS) and Star Wars character (favorite movie). Name of this particular Deamon is a Obi-Chuck Kenobi ;)


Thing why i asked is, did you ever program on BSD ??? Thing is that i'm porting the optimized source code to freebsd atm... An i'm really feeling sorry for all that guys/galls using freeBSD as main OS.

I've seen a lot of things specially on OS part.. starting from Amiga OS up to Solaris and HPUX. Thing is that you really got hit hard with BSD, more than you might know.

Anyone here that ever compiled/used a sientific program on FreeBSD ?...

Whatever, atm i'm trying my best to get, THE best out of that OS (which might not be much, cuz it's crippled, we'll see...), though it's very very strange ... ever run a bench on linux/windows and ever seen that trigArray is faster than any SSE(X) variant ??? ... Well... must be some crap ... no further comments.

You really have my compassion for using that OS.
Whatevfer i do my best to get you optimized ;)







Nope, I'm not a programmer, only a user and Administrator, maybe someone else can help you with some strange behaviors of this strange OS :), on a mailing list: FreeBSD mailing lists, especialy on freebsd-hackers

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Nope, I'm not a programmer, only a user and Administrator, maybe someone else can help you with some strange behaviors of this strange OS :), on a mailing list: FreeBSD mailing lists, especialy on freebsd-hackers


I'm not a programmer too, well seems as if i'm becoming a specialist for cross platfrom development over the years ;)

Well the mailing list is ... 'S#!&'

But there's hope ...the app. will be icc compiled. we'll see how it all works out.
i let ya all know when i'm done.




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Message 579432 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 0:32:02 UTC - in response to Message 579425.  
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Nope, I'm not a programmer, only a user and Administrator, maybe someone else can help you with some strange behaviors of this strange OS :), on a mailing list: FreeBSD mailing lists, especialy on freebsd-hackers


I'm not a programmer too, well seems as if i'm becoming one for cross platfrom specialist for converting code over the years ;)

Well the mailing list is ... 'S#!&'

But there's hope ...the app. will be icc compiled. we'll see how it all works out.
i let ya all know when i'm done.




From what I see latest version of ICC in ports is 8.1.038 ICC on FreeBSD. Maybe you can contact with netchild, he is the last mantainer of this port and may provide some help to you. From what difficulties I have in a these years with FreeBSD, I can say only good things to community around, support for a free OS is very important...
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From what I see latest version of ICC in ports is 8.1.038 ICC on FreeBSD. Maybe you can contact with netchild, he is the last mantainer of this port and may provide some help to you. From what difficulties I have in a these years with FreeBSD, I can say only good things to community around, support for a free OS is very important...


I allready got it an it compiled the most important part of the code.
(I allready did a GCC compilation,but i guess If ya can get a faster app... why use crapy gcc ;)

So don't worry we/i can take care of it. I did port the code to Alpha and itanium, guess i can handle BSD too ;) hehe ... And if anything goes wrong ...
there's allways Josef W. Segur you can rely on him !!

He's been a major, if not the most contributing person towards optimizing the code !!!

For those that did not know... He's responcible for the performance boost of the stock app. that became the 5.12 official app. !!! Before that the 5.07 code that should have been released as 5.11 was 3 times slower !!!

(NOW TELL ME WHO KNEW THAT ???? )


ANYONE THAT USES AN OPTIMIZED APP. AND EVEN USES THE STOCK APP. OWES HIM SO MUCH !!!!

JOSEF W. SEGUR IS OUR HERO !










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Message 579524 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 2:36:31 UTC - in response to Message 579454.  


From what I see latest version of ICC in ports is 8.1.038 ICC on FreeBSD. Maybe you can contact with netchild, he is the last mantainer of this port and may provide some help to you. From what difficulties I have in a these years with FreeBSD, I can say only good things to community around, support for a free OS is very important...


I allready got it an it compiled the most important part of the code.
(I allready did a GCC compilation,but i guess If ya can get a faster app... why use crapy gcc ;)

So don't worry we/i can take care of it. I did port the code to Alpha and itanium, guess i can handle BSD too ;) hehe ... And if anything goes wrong ...
there's allways Josef W. Segur you can rely on him !!

He's been a major, if not the most contributing person towards optimizing the code !!!

For those that did not know... He's responcible for the performance boost of the stock app. that became the 5.12 official app. !!! Before that the 5.07 code that should have been released as 5.11 was 3 times slower !!!

(NOW TELL ME WHO KNEW THAT ???? )


ANYONE THAT USES AN OPTIMIZED APP. AND EVEN USES THE STOCK APP. OWES HIM SO MUCH !!!!

JOSEF W. SEGUR IS OUR HERO !









I thank him every chance I get...But you and the rest of the people working on the apps deserve thanks also! You guys make crunchin fun.
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Message 579601 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 5:20:35 UTC

I am with hiamps. We (crunchers) don't know how many people is behind optimising stock Seti client. If Josef Segur was not in Chicken's group, it should be unknown to us...
Thanks, and I'll be pleased if "Power of FreeBSD Serve to Us"!
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Message 579743 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 13:32:31 UTC - in response to Message 579317.  
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But SSSE3 is not listed in the list as something his CPU is capable of. Is this a type that BOINC normally does not recognize?

All information what BOINC gets is from OS (XP reports only SSE2), use programs like CPU-Z or Everest..

[ My emphasis added ]

And that is very important. Programs must only utilise what the host OS knows about.

Even if the CPU supports SSSE3, if WinXP doesn't know about that then to use that feature may well leave the CPU registers scrambled if the OS decides to force a context switch...


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Message 579833 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 17:48:39 UTC - in response to Message 579743.  

But SSSE3 is not listed in the list as something his CPU is capable of. Is this a type that BOINC normally does not recognize?

All information what BOINC gets is from OS (XP reports only SSE2), use programs like CPU-Z or Everest..

[ My emphasis added ]

And that is very important. Programs must only utilise what the host OS knows about.

Even if the CPU supports SSSE3, if WinXP doesn't know about that then to use that feature may well leave the CPU registers scrambled if the OS decides to force a context switch...


Happy crunchin',
Martin

I think you're being overly cautious. The instruction which saves the state of the XMM registers would be used for any context switch, and there's no conflict as there is between FPU and MMX which share the same register set. My guess is that MS simply wants people to buy newer machines so their income from Windows keeps coming in.
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