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Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
It seem that Seti@home is functioning properly again. I don't know if this applies to everybody but i will share what i just done to get your computer to start crunching Seti@home work units again. This has worked for me and i now have a full load of work units crunching again! If BOINC manager is not uploading or downloading any work units, you have to delete BOINC off your computer and download it again. This will get you going again. ****Simple instructions for beginners***** This is with windows xp because that is what i have running. 1. Click Windows Start Menu-> my computer-> C: ->program files -> Right click BOINC and delete it! 2. Visit SETI@home main page and download the latest version of BOINC. Here is a link http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php 3. Run the BOINC software and when prompted enter the URL or Internet address; http://setiathome.berkeley.edu 4. When asked if you are a new or existing user, select existing user and put in your e-mail address and password. 5. BOINC manager will then connect to SETI@home and get you new work units. I hope this helps some people as the SETI@home front page does not have much help on it. John in Ireland. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
John's method will have important side-effects for some users: It will delete all work in progress, including for other projects you are connected to, apart from SETI It will delete any local statistics and logs stored on your computer (it won't affect stats on the SETI website, or any third party sites) It will delete any optimised or other special applications on your system. So if you have the simplest of installations, and don't crunch for any project except SETI, John's method is fine. For everybody else - stop and take a deep breath first, and think whether you really want to do that. Other methods are available. |
kloeniksen Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 11 Credit: 855,771 RAC: 3 |
Which methods? Kelwin since 99 |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14653 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Which methods? Try this one, tested and recommended by Simon the Great Chicken yesterday. |
kloeniksen Send message Joined: 21 May 99 Posts: 11 Credit: 855,771 RAC: 3 |
Which methods? I have checked the chickens, they are not charing with Old Chomputer Chusers.. K. |
Johnney Guinness Send message Joined: 11 Sep 06 Posts: 3093 Credit: 2,652,287 RAC: 0 |
It seem that Seti@home is functioning properly again. I don't know if this applies to everybody but i will share what i just done to get your computer to start crunching Seti@home work units again. As an update to my last post, i have now finished my first 2 work units and they have been returned to SETI and are now just pending their credit! So this method will work and get you crunching again! John in Ireland. |
Odysseus Send message Joined: 26 Jul 99 Posts: 1808 Credit: 6,701,347 RAC: 6 |
Can someone please tell me in simple english why SETI is not downloading any work from the project? I think “broken†covers that as wellâ€â€in the simplest possible ‘non-geek’ terms, considering “the servers†to comprise hardware and software components both. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Hey what about the old machine 'Thumper', the one which conked off and started all this. Only the motherboard is faulty in that machine right ? The old "Thumper" was basically one-of-a-kind hardware -- an early engineering unit that was good, but not something where Sun would have spares available for purchase. So, in a way, the death of Thumper is a very good thing: the replacement is 100% production components, and motherboards can be bought if needed. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
If I recall correctly, the failure on Thumper was with the drive controller, couldn't it still be of some use as a splitter or server running discless? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
If I recall correctly, the failure on Thumper was with the drive controller, couldn't it still be of some use as a splitter or server running discless? I don't know. What I remember reading is that Thumper was built as a stack of boards, with the drives plugging directly into a PC Board -- no cables at all (and the new ones are built the same way, but the dimensions are slightly different). Probably the best way to use the old chassis is to "salvage" the high-value parts and use them on commodity boards. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51469 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
If I recall correctly, the failure on Thumper was with the drive controller, couldn't it still be of some use as a splitter or server running discless? But if the only failure was the ability to see the drives, if it will boot and the comms were not compromised, it would still have a lot of processing/server power, no? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Urs Echternacht Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 692 Credit: 135,197,781 RAC: 211 |
If I recall correctly, the failure on Thumper was with the drive controller, couldn't it still be of some use as a splitter or server running discless? msattler, take a look at what Thumper looks like. Actually the new hardware has two low profile expansion slots, but you can't be sure if the preproduction sample had these, too. Better rip out the usable parts as spares. _\|/_ U r s |
jjemme Send message Joined: 20 May 05 Posts: 172 Credit: 63,326 RAC: 0 |
Seems like it!! It is no good to try to stop knowledge from going forward. Ignorance is never better than knowledge. --- Enrico Fermi --- |
KB7RZF Send message Joined: 15 Aug 99 Posts: 9549 Credit: 3,308,926 RAC: 2 |
Hey what about the old machine 'Thumper', the one which conked off and started all this. Only the motherboard is faulty in that machine right ? Conrad, If you look at the person who I was responding to, thats why I said what I said. I am well aware of the new things needed, its been said by Eric and Matt. He simpy was asking about a replacement for thumper, and I simply stated it has already been replaced. Please read quoted items before responding so people don't get confused. Thank you. |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
It depends alot on what you think of as "server power." That usually isn't processor power, it's usually memory and DISK. IMO, losing the ability to see disks is a pretty big loss. |
Kirsten Send message Joined: 7 Jul 00 Posts: 190 Credit: 566,047 RAC: 0 |
Keep getting error messages like this group: If you are running KWSN's optimized apps, then read in this thread: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39531. If you have already followed the instructions around app_info.xml and have got work, then you might consider using the command "No new work". Kind regards Kirsten |
parl Send message Joined: 22 May 04 Posts: 95 Credit: 4,476,976 RAC: 0 |
(I hope I got the bracket quote bracket thingies right) So what that would entail is a sched (chron) job to send the SUSPEND and RESTORE messages to SAH for the Tuesday shutdown. Unfortunately, most of MY programming experience has been in ALGOL on Burroughs mainframes. This would require more knowledge of Windows (or Linux / UNIX) and the BOINC protocol than I have. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Well for Windows, batch files containing the "net start boinc" and "net stop boinc" commands, run in scheduled tassks would be easiest i reckon, provided the user installed as a service. I am sure it could work for running not as a service, however terminating boinc would be more difficult, but could use boincmd.exe functions to control processing / workunit fetching etc.. instead "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13746 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
It depends alot on what you think of as "server power." Yep, looking at the link posted above, it doesn't appear possible to drop in a SATA card to give it at least one HDD- there just isn't any room (other than some serious cut & hack of the drive storage area) to mount any HDDs . If it's able to boot from the network then it'd be suitable for anything that doesn't require a lot of disc throughput using the ethernet port(s) for it's storage needs. Grant Darwin NT |
S@NL Fred Vroomen Send message Joined: 29 Oct 00 Posts: 4 Credit: 803,400 RAC: 0 |
Several users here in the Seti@Netherlands community report that removing optimized seti clients completely (inc. app_info.xml) and restarting from 0 with fresh downloaded original seticlient restores connectivity with Berkeley to nearly normal level. |
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