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Message 564372 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 7:02:05 UTC

The 11th, hmm... The day before my son's 2nd birthday.

Hope this is a good onen...



Keep up The good work, and I will keep adding Machines. ( as budget allows )
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Message 564383 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 7:16:16 UTC

Ok Matt. Thx for the news. I hope Fed ex to move quikly, 'cause as all of the team, we start to be a bit... hmmm... IMPATIENT!!! ;)

Keep on good job, and good luck with the new server.
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Message 564405 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 8:07:48 UTC - in response to Message 564221.  
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Just in time for my birthday (15 May 0230 UT)! :-)


Uh, I thought your birthday was 28 Aug ;)

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Message 564414 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 8:26:28 UTC

Sorry about the headaches, but you folks are doing a great job dealing with it all. Ever think of a career with disaster services, you all are well qualified <grin> Well, back to the solitare games.


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Message 564451 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 9:11:09 UTC - in response to Message 564414.  

Sorry about the headaches, but you folks are doing a great job dealing with it all. Ever think of a career with disaster services, you all are well qualified <grin> Well, back to the solitare games.



Yes got to admit some people could learn somethings from you. I personnaly never had a service giving so much updates conserning a problem as you guy's do, keep up the good work. Best off luck with your upcomming work ;)

and in my case back to the minesweeper :p
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Message 564466 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 10:31:44 UTC - in response to Message 564017.  

Hello ...,

Use the best of the best to get the best ... .

Thanks

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Message 564467 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 10:35:13 UTC - in response to Message 564017.  

Matt, many thanks for the continued updates, as you see they are appreciated by all concerned. Everyone is aware of how hard you Guys work and that coming here to post messages takes you away from, what on the surface at least, is the more important tasks of getting everything ship shape for the new server arrival, however this is equally important.

On the positive side, I have been running Einstein since the outage as my machines finished their caches in short order, but the one thing it has given me the opportunity to do is migrate my machines from WXP Pro to Ubuntu 7.04 where under Einstein I have seen around an average of a 60% decrease in resource use and 40% increase in machine efficiency and processing speed.

The exception to this is one machine I deliberatly left running W2K pro SP4 which is only about 20% less efficient that Ubuntu, although it still is resource hungry.

The best results have been on my Dell Xeon Quad Server (4*3.2HT 8MB/800MHz, 16GB) which ran XP Pro and took some 38hrs on a set of Eight Einstein units, migrated to Ubuntu it only took 27hrs 4mins to complete an identical set of 8.

I migrated some SETI units that were spare from one machine to this machine (Zeus) and ran them, they took an amazingly short 1hr 57mins 30 seconds as an average for the batch of 8 units!!

So when we are back up an running on Monday I shall be loading these babies up with SETI again.
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Message 564474 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 10:55:10 UTC

At the very least, this Project (and particularly Matt) deserves an award for keeping us all informed.

Well done and good luck with the new server(s).
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Message 564483 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 11:28:42 UTC

Hang in there, Matt. And take time off when you need it. It's not the end of the world. We'll be here when you're done!
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Message 564491 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 12:00:13 UTC - in response to Message 564260.  
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Come on Ozz, I know it's still used. ello?!


I'm sorry. I just thought you were trying to say that since you haven't heard it since the 60s that it wasn't used anymore. My mistake. ;-)
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Message 564523 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 13:10:31 UTC

Bravo for the updates. I too agree just having us up to date, means you care, and yes, its an unfortunate outage, but yet, hey, things like this happen. Congrats on the hard work, and just try to hang in there. We've all been there... You know, literally have the whole world waiting on you. ;)

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Message 564558 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 13:46:52 UTC - in response to Message 564233.  

Gigs?

I haven't heard that word since, well, the 60's.


Really? I'm going to a gig tomorrow night.


Had doobies back then too and they weren't the Doobie Brothers either :)


No prizes for guessing where Scooby Doo got his name, or why Shaggy always wanted a sandwich...
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Message 564565 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 14:09:12 UTC

Aloha From Honolulu,

Machines, Servers, Networks, Computers.... Blah, Blah, Blah.... Crash, Breakdown, Etc.... From Time to Time....

I am just happy to Devote CPU Time that would otherwise be Idle to ALL of the Different BOINC Projects....

Take Yer time getting all the Hardware/Network Issues Ironed Out... I'll still be here waiting Patiently for some WU's to CRUNCH....

I do "Appreciate" your time and effort getting the "SYSTEM" back Online.... No Worries...

Patiently Waiting 4 Some WU's to CRUNCH....

Aloha & Mahalo's - Waiting Patiently By The Never Ending Rolling Surf....

Mikey in Waikiki, Honolulu, Oahu, Hawaii

God Life Is Good.... Aloha
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Message 564569 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 14:14:39 UTC - in response to Message 564017.  

"In case you don't know the replacement server will arrive on Friday."
You have been saying that for over a week now, With Sun just down the road from you, you could have walked down there picked it up and walked back by now!! I have shut down my systems because of your "it's going to be another day" bull! If it's so important that your asking the public to help you with this program, then why in the hell did you not have a backup system incase this very thing happened?? This is not the first time you lost a server and the folks doing this work have had to set on there ass while you ran around looking for a system to take up the slack!! And the fact that any computer could run your data base and server XX amount of time files to the public means you could have had a cheap home system as a backup to server a time file so folks doing the work would not be waiting for over a week on YOU! all it really needs to do is run the data base that folks log into and get XX amount of work, heck a Max or and old Pentium 200MHz Pro could do that!! It does not have to be a $20,000 SUN system... D'oh O'pps Yup some of us are computer literate and some of us even design and build them for a living! D'oh... Your notebook could do the job, so get a computer on line and get the damn job running..

Yeah I said that.

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Message 564570 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 14:20:06 UTC

Matt,

The updates are great. Just keeping the community informed means everything. I wish it was the same way on some of the other BOINC projects (I took it from Pitviper007 and I really think he's right).

By the way, I received a WU today how is it possible ?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=128618632

Good luck and have a good week end
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Message 564571 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 14:20:20 UTC - in response to Message 564569.  
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"In case you don't know the replacement server will arrive on Friday."
You have been saying that for over a week now, With Sun just down the road from you, you could have walked down there picked it up and walked back by now!! I have shut down my systems because of your "it's going to be another day" bull! If it's so important that your asking the public to help you with this program, then why in the hell did you not have a backup system incase this very thing happened?? This is not the first time you lost a server and the folks doing this work have had to set on there ass while you ran around looking for a system to take up the slack!! And the fact that any computer could run your data base and server XX amount of time files to the public means you could have had a cheap home system as a backup to server a time file so folks doing the work would not be waiting for over a week on YOU! all it really needs to do is run the data base that folks log into and get XX amount of work, heck a Max or and old Pentium 200MHz Pro could do that!! It does not have to be a $20,000 SUN system... D'oh O'pps Yup some of us are computer literate and some of us even design and build them for a living! D'oh... Your notebook could do the job, so get a computer on line and get the damn job running..

Yeah I said that.




Umm... yes, Sun Microsystems HQ is down in Silicon Valley... but (as I understand it...) the System is being shipped from the factory, which is in Tennesee! (probably by truck...)

As for backup system(s) read the relevent threads... lack of $$ is the primary reason there...

No - ordinary consumer-grade computers would freak out at the loads that SETI's servers routinely handle. (Home computer builder...)
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Hello, from Albany, CA!...
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Message 564572 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 14:20:56 UTC - in response to Message 564353.  

Why not FIX the dialup interface portion of the boinc manager while you have all this time ?? It hasn't worked properly since the last updated version was released.


I agree that this needs fixing, but I don't think it is directly part of Matt's job.

The BOINC Manager and Core Client are dealt with by the BOINC development team http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/SoftwareDevelopment.

I recently lost about 8 hours work because BOINC was waiting for me to take action, and was causing regular "No heartbeat from core client for 31 sec - exiting" messages. I alway try to remember to "Suspend Network" when a connection is not available, but somtimes forget.
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Message 564573 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 14:22:46 UTC

Thanks Tim for your input.
Willingness to process SETI data is nice, but so are general good manners.
The two ARE possible to combine.

/Anton
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Message 564575 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 14:25:09 UTC - in response to Message 564570.  

By the way, I received a WU today how is it possible ?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=128618632

Since there are units still being crunched, they expire / error out. When that happens another result is created and they get sent out. No need to tell the master DB that another result is created, so work is being created, just a lot slower than when they split units.


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Message 564578 - Posted: 10 May 2007, 14:40:29 UTC - in response to Message 564575.  

Am I to understand that Thumper and the ~48 SATA drives have been functioning as Master Science Database for -- How many years? --- Approx how much of data in that database ? and how many records approximately? Just curious as the specs of the replacement look serious for a free server, and my limited experience with SUNS has shown them to be very robust in a smaller scale Geographical Information System setup years ago. Remembering my pleasant times with them may end up seeing me skip the whole MS/MAC/LINUX battle and go back to at least a workstation grade setup for general use (In an engineering environment) one day not too far off. These things Still run SunOS, BSD or variant, Linux or what ?

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