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Message 618119 - Posted: 11 Aug 2007, 18:58:20 UTC

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Message 618300 - Posted: 12 Aug 2007, 21:27:13 UTC - in response to Message 617851.  

Haiti UFO's? Recorded August 6th, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZebSvtbx8


ok three letters: WTF.

Observations:

1) The UFOs pass over and make a sound similar to a plane but not as noisy. The sound is consistent with the UFOs passing and height. Given the obvious fact that if these are real, they are very advanced. A relative silence would be expected.

2) Why only a gasp from the woman? If I just saw these things, I would likely not have had time to breathe let alone gasp. I give her credit for the gasp

3) At the very end of the video (the absolute end just before it stops), although the rest is cut, you hear a mans voice yell as they all fly away. That suggests, given from what I can heard, that there are witnesses.

4) This would cost an incredible amount of money to pull off to be a major hoax. If it is a hoax, it is done with elaborate miniatures, because there is no way I can see that these are computer animated. And the amount of miniatures it would take to create this fleet (not to mention the detail design and they have to be able to fly too)...There is no reasonable or logical way I can think of for this to be a hoax. And if it is...why Haiti?

5) I think this is real. I cannot give an explanation to suggest otherwise. If this is real, then this is the biggest proof of Extraterrestrial life to ever exist.

6) Why has this NOT been picked up by the media? If this was dated today, I would expect something to appear tomorrow. But it was on the 6th of August. Why nothing on the news? But if I were an expert or even a CNN, FOX, etc journalist, this would be the biggest scoop of mankind, or the biggest hoax since Roswell.


Also...are there any experts in graphics here? Anyone in Film or photography expertise?


We have a professional photographer on our team and he said that( from what he saw ) that the video is very good. He also said that he would really like to see the original video in it's original resolution.
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Message 618338 - Posted: 12 Aug 2007, 22:35:37 UTC

XCon 2005 - John Greenewald Jr. - The Black Vault's Quest for Truth:

John Greenewald Jr. is the kid who at age 15 began sending freedom of information letters to the US government requesting info about UFOs.

Here he is in an XCon video telling of his findings and thoughts about his decade long quest for data:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7408692026357341951&hl=en
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Message 618390 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 1:42:26 UTC - in response to Message 618300.  

Haiti UFO's? Recorded August 6th, 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFZebSvtbx8


ok three letters: WTF.

Observations:

1) The UFOs pass over and make a sound similar to a plane but not as noisy. The sound is consistent with the UFOs passing and height. Given the obvious fact that if these are real, they are very advanced. A relative silence would be expected.

2) Why only a gasp from the woman? If I just saw these things, I would likely not have had time to breathe let alone gasp. I give her credit for the gasp

3) At the very end of the video (the absolute end just before it stops), although the rest is cut, you hear a mans voice yell as they all fly away. That suggests, given from what I can heard, that there are witnesses.

4) This would cost an incredible amount of money to pull off to be a major hoax. If it is a hoax, it is done with elaborate miniatures, because there is no way I can see that these are computer animated. And the amount of miniatures it would take to create this fleet (not to mention the detail design and they have to be able to fly too)...There is no reasonable or logical way I can think of for this to be a hoax. And if it is...why Haiti?

5) I think this is real. I cannot give an explanation to suggest otherwise. If this is real, then this is the biggest proof of Extraterrestrial life to ever exist.

6) Why has this NOT been picked up by the media? If this was dated today, I would expect something to appear tomorrow. But it was on the 6th of August. Why nothing on the news? But if I were an expert or even a CNN, FOX, etc journalist, this would be the biggest scoop of mankind, or the biggest hoax since Roswell.


Also...are there any experts in graphics here? Anyone in Film or photography expertise?


We have a professional photographer on our team and he said that( from what he saw ) that the video is very good. He also said that he would really like to see the original video in it's original resolution.

Its a Fake! Lololololowahahahahahahah!

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Message 618393 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 1:59:33 UTC - in response to Message 618338.  
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XCon 2005 - John Greenewald Jr. - The Black Vault's Quest for Truth:

John Greenewald Jr. is the kid who at age 15 began sending freedom of information letters to the US government requesting info about UFOs.

Here he is in an XCon video telling of his findings and thoughts about his decade long quest for data:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7408692026357341951&hl=en


Most videos seem to be fake now-a-days,

Nothing funny about wasting peoples time. Above is the document you blew over in your moment of glory.

PS- Thank you for posting the data proving it as a fake!

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Message 618409 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 2:49:55 UTC - in response to Message 618393.  

XCon 2005 - John Greenewald Jr. - The Black Vault's Quest for Truth:

John Greenewald Jr. is the kid who at age 15 began sending freedom of information letters to the US government requesting info about UFOs.

Here he is in an XCon video telling of his findings and thoughts about his decade long quest for data:

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7408692026357341951&hl=en


Most videos seem to be fake now-a-days,

Nothing funny about wasting peoples time. Above is the document you blew over in your moment of glory.

PS- Thank you for posting the data proving it as a fake!

:)

Sorry couldnt help it, it took me less than 5 mins to find the truth, I admit
that I fell for it and it has bugged me for a couple of days.. When I cant disprove a video or Picture then it bugs me. It was a good Vid thats for sure.
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Message 618417 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 3:23:02 UTC
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The video showing it fake was posted yesterday so you found it right on schedule.

You did good and I have spread the word.

We could use a new guy with your skills. Click my sig to become part of the team.

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Message 618426 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 4:09:51 UTC - in response to Message 618417.  

The video showing it fake was posted yesterday so you found it right on schedule.

You did good and I have spread the word.

We could use a new guy with your skills. Click my sig to become part of the team.

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Thanks MrGray for the offer, But i am so happy with the Nuts at TFFE
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Message 618428 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 4:11:06 UTC - in response to Message 618426.  

The video showing it fake was posted yesterday so you found it right on schedule.

You did good and I have spread the word.

We could use a new guy with your skills. Click my sig to become part of the team.

:)

Thanks MrGray for the offer, But i am so happy with the Nuts at TFFE
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I don't think he was referring to a Seti team ( since he is a member of Calm Chaos ). I think it was more along the lines of joing the UFOdBASE team to help search out what is real and what is fake.

I think.....

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Message 618430 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 4:12:28 UTC - in response to Message 618428.  

The video showing it fake was posted yesterday so you found it right on schedule.

You did good and I have spread the word.

We could use a new guy with your skills. Click my sig to become part of the team.

:)

Thanks MrGray for the offer, But i am so happy with the Nuts at TFFE
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I don't think he was referring to a Seti team ( since he is a member of Calm Chaos ). I think it was more along the lines of joing the UFOdBASE team to help search out what is real and what is fake.

I think.....

OH OK....Lalalal.....Hi Buddy hows the sugar biz?
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Message 618434 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 4:19:05 UTC - in response to Message 618430.  

The video showing it fake was posted yesterday so you found it right on schedule.

You did good and I have spread the word.

We could use a new guy with your skills. Click my sig to become part of the team.

:)

Thanks MrGray for the offer, But i am so happy with the Nuts at TFFE
Great Group of Malcontents... Glad to help any time...


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I don't think he was referring to a Seti team ( since he is a member of Calm Chaos ). I think it was more along the lines of joing the UFOdBASE team to help search out what is real and what is fake.

I think.....

OH OK....Lalalal.....Hi Buddy hows the sugar biz?


Going quite well actually. With the rise in corn prices....sugar is now being more widely used ( like it used to be before the advent of high fructose corn syrup ) for making high sugar products like soft drinks.

Things are looking up....but of course now the Government wants to allow more cheap imports. They don't want the sugar industry to do TOO well.

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Message 618435 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 4:19:06 UTC

No sugar here,

Nothing sold on our site.

http://www.ufodbase.com

Over 1400 UFO videos and related documents. We just want to know if they're real or fake. The video below of John Greenewald, founder of http://www.blackvault.com, began sending the government requests for info on UFOs when he was 15. He's now 26 and has a few things to say. He has over 40,000 documents, all pointing at a cover up.

Don't listen to me. Listen to what he has to say.



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Message 618497 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 7:38:44 UTC

I have 2 ufo videos. Taken by a girl I know over Newport Beach California. small moving light, weird sounds. She just got a mac and cant work it, so I dont think she faked it. But a guy in Laguna Beach sends up fake ufos. Dunno how. I mocked her, until I saw one tonight for about 30 minutes. How can u fake this in the sky ? Fast, stop,backwards etc... No sound
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Message 618531 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 9:19:34 UTC

They've been here longer than we have, IMHO.

Thanks Lester. Most people will not believe until they see one. I'm just lucky I can see without having seen one, I guess. I'm not alone though.

1 of 11 people have seen one and 1 in 5 believe they are real.
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Message 618543 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 10:20:56 UTC - in response to Message 618435.  

No sugar here,

Nothing sold on our site.

http://www.ufodbase.com

Over 1400 UFO videos and related documents. We just want to know if they're real or fake. The video below of John Greenewald, founder of http://www.blackvault.com, began sending the government requests for info on UFOs when he was 15. He's now 26 and has a few things to say. He has over 40,000 documents, all pointing at a cover up.

Don't listen to me. Listen to what he has to say.




Correction: John Greenewald has over 440,000 documents at www.blackvault.com
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Message 618608 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 15:59:52 UTC

MrGray, I am trying to figure out where CA posted "data" proving the Haiti video is a fake. What I see instead is a link to video editing software which would let us know in general how easily things could be faked these days.
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Message 618638 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 17:03:27 UTC - in response to Message 618608.  

... where CA posted "data" proving the Haiti video is a fake. What I see instead is a link to video editing software which would let us know in general how easily things could be faked these days.

There's some good ripping apart here:

Haiti UFO faked


Some very nice work, and a few sloppy bits.

Is it what your eyes see, or is it what your mind wants to believe you see?


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Message 618663 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 17:49:50 UTC - in response to Message 618638.  

Is it what your eyes see, or is it what your mind wants to believe you see?

I made no comments on its authenticity in either direction.
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Message 618684 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 19:15:06 UTC - in response to Message 618663.  

Is it what your eyes see, or is it what your mind wants to believe you see?

I made no comments on its authenticity in either direction.


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ML1: Your correct. Numbers are rising, though!
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Message 618708 - Posted: 13 Aug 2007, 20:00:34 UTC

Any video on You Tube should be considered suspect.
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