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Message 541614 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 2:41:47 UTC
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How long does it take pending credit to be added to credit. I am a long way behind what i believe i should be in my credit and what is RAC.
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Message 541625 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 2:52:21 UTC

Depends on the speed of the other computers in the quorum of results returned. Typical is a few days to a week. Slower systems through off the average time for credit to be added.
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Message 541784 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 11:11:59 UTC

Those with HIGH "connect to" settings (cache setting) also delay credit issuance.
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Message 541943 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 18:34:56 UTC

I've got over 1,000 sat in pending. I must have got a load of new units.

Ho hum - it'll all come out in the wash.

Not sure why BOINCstats says I got a big fat ZERO today - it must be fairly unlikely that all my credit went into pending!

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Message 541947 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 18:42:51 UTC - in response to Message 541943.  

I've got over 1,000 sat in pending. I must have got a load of new units.

Ho hum - it'll all come out in the wash.

Not sure why BOINCstats says I got a big fat ZERO today - it must be fairly unlikely that all my credit went into pending!

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The Seti database has been down due to transitioning to the new server. They have not generated a new XML stats page for 2 days now. As soon as they have the server issues settled and generate a new XML stats page for Boincstats to download, you will have a very big day showing!

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Message 541953 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 19:10:56 UTC

LOL....

That's for sure! Probably be a personal high for me.

As far as pendings go, the way I look at it is since once you get to equilibrium then you've got "reserve" credit in the bank so if one of your host craps out unnoticed for a bit it takes some of the sting out of the RAC hit. ;-)

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Message 541980 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 20:31:01 UTC - in response to Message 541943.  


Not sure why BOINCstats says I got a big fat ZERO today - it must be fairly unlikely that all my credit went into pending!

Probably because they aren't generating the usual stats dumps while they're moving servers around and mopping up afterwards.

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Message 541998 - Posted: 6 Apr 2007, 22:14:14 UTC - in response to Message 541953.  

LOL....

That's for sure! Probably be a personal high for me.

As far as pendings go, the way I look at it is since once you get to equilibrium then you've got "reserve" credit in the bank so if one of your host craps out unnoticed for a bit it takes some of the sting out of the RAC hit. ;-)

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I hate to think how this reset will skew my personal high. :-)


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Message 542371 - Posted: 7 Apr 2007, 19:12:50 UTC

I see that my RAC is playing around 2900 and my pending credit playing around 2000. Would that give a good idea on how long credit remains pending, on the average? 2000/2900 is a little less than 2/3 day, or about 15-16 hours. That's for a cache set at two days and (essentially) just one project running, Seti. I do have Einstein set at 0.1 percent so that is just for emergencies.
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Message 573806 - Posted: 22 May 2007, 14:41:09 UTC

Pending credit do seem to hold back RDA I'v got more than 4100 pending that more than my RDA
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Message 573809 - Posted: 22 May 2007, 14:51:21 UTC - in response to Message 542371.  
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I see that my RAC is playing around 2900 and my pending credit playing around 2000. Would that give a good idea on how long credit remains pending, on the average? 2000/2900 is a little less than 2/3 day, or about 15-16 hours. That's for a cache set at two days and (essentially) just one project running, Seti. I do have Einstein set at 0.1 percent so that is just for emergencies.


My guesses, on average workunits will stay pending longer than usual at the moment, as there are many clients ( with anonymous platform ) that won't be getting the results to crunch ('ghost results'). These will wait until time-out to reissue.

If you are lucky you'll be teamed with someone on a standard platform or an anonymous platform using the workaround, then they should be granted in the normal time. but, averages being averages, chances are this will only happen a percentage of the time, so some pending results may be sitting in limbo for 3 weeks or more.


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Message 574400 - Posted: 23 May 2007, 13:56:16 UTC - in response to Message 573809.  

I see that my RAC is playing around 2900 and my pending credit playing around 2000. Would that give a good idea on how long credit remains pending, on the average? 2000/2900 is a little less than 2/3 day, or about 15-16 hours. That's for a cache set at two days and (essentially) just one project running, Seti. I do have Einstein set at 0.1 percent so that is just for emergencies.


My guesses, on average workunits will stay pending longer than usual at the moment, as there are many clients ( with anonymous platform ) that won't be getting the results to crunch ('ghost results'). These will wait until time-out to reissue.

If you are lucky you'll be teamed with someone on a standard platform or an anonymous platform using the workaround, then they should be granted in the normal time. but, averages being averages, chances are this will only happen a percentage of the time, so some pending results may be sitting in limbo for 3 weeks or more.



I have 2 nice 67 credit WUs that are both waiting for almost a week on the same 2 hosts to form a quorum:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=129164011
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=129164018

I may send each of them a PM in a few days to see if either of them got those WUs, but I will wait until the multiple ghost issue is cleard up at the servers first.

Hi to [SETI.USA] OneChicken and PriSoner if you are reading this :-)
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Message 574410 - Posted: 23 May 2007, 14:20:22 UTC - in response to Message 574400.  

I have 2 nice 67 credit WUs that are both waiting for almost a week on the same 2 hosts to form a quorum



You are going to have a long wait.

Might want to fire up those PMs. :)

Both are using optimized apps and likely not the "work around".

One of them has a maximum daily WU quota per CPU of 1/day.

The other hasn't reported anything since May 16.
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Message 575224 - Posted: 25 May 2007, 7:43:25 UTC - in response to Message 574400.  

I have 2 nice 67 credit WUs that are both waiting for almost a week on the same 2 hosts to form a quorum:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=129164011
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=129164018

I may send each of them a PM in a few days to see if either of them got those WUs, but I will wait until the multiple ghost issue is cleard up at the servers first.

Hi to [SETI.USA] OneChicken and PriSoner if you are reading this :-)


Thank You [SETI.USA] OneChicken for doing the Client detached fix. I have done it myself twice in the last few weeks to free up my ghosts.

If anyone else is planning to do this now that the servers are back to near normal, dont forget to back-up your statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml file from the BOINC folder if you want to keep your graphs in BOINC Manager.
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