ID - cr/sec - cr/min - cr/Hr  - sec/cr - AR - sec - credit
339998291 - 0.0014 - 0.0848 - 5.0858 - 707.84 - 0.425850 - 44211.91 - 62.46

cr = credit
sec = seconde
min = minute
Hr = heures
Ar = Angel R

i am french :o)

ID - cr/sec - cr/min - cr/Hr - sec/cr - AR - sec - credit
340252645 - 0.0014 - 0.0854 - 5.12 - 701.26 - 0.431836 - 43078.89 - 61.31

:)

Sorry, I don't know any French. But it's important to say that the distance the scope moves through the sky during a workunit is called the "Angle Range" and not "Angel Range". We're talking about degrees of arc here and not what somebody turns into if he/she goes to heaven (per many religions).

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This result sheet shows a pretty broad spectrum of what my main machine (Pentium D950 and XpPro) has encountered recently with workunits. Sorry but the angle ranges will have to be looked up. I don't know where tables with angle ranges and all this other stuff together are located. I hope it copies OK:

339101352 81227283 8 Jun 2006 9:53:36 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 29,427.73 58.69 95.88
339085456 81223347 8 Jun 2006 9:04:25 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 16,354.66 62.45 62.45
339073217 81220331 8 Jun 2006 8:26:57 UTC 8 Jun 2006 9:20:17 UTC Over Success Done 2,228.09 12.51 12.51
339073160 81220317 8 Jun 2006 8:26:57 UTC 8 Jun 2006 9:04:25 UTC Over Success Done 2,191.95 12.51 12.51
339036362 81211252 8 Jun 2006 6:27:18 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 16,861.83 62.46 62.46
339028810 81209384 8 Jun 2006 6:02:50 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 29,166.89 58.69 58.70
338976615 81196519 8 Jun 2006 3:11:17 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 46,428.78 92.12 92.12
338886074 81174221 7 Jun 2006 22:26:31 UTC 10 Jun 2006 8:42:28 UTC Over Success Done 15,820.59 60.65 60.65
338864782 81168942 7 Jun 2006 21:15:59 UTC 9 Jun 2006 12:59:30 UTC Over Success Done 152.39 0.10 0.10
338747644 80995118 7 Jun 2006 15:25:23 UTC 10 Jun 2006 8:42:28 UTC Over Client error Computing 10,222.94 45.47 ---
338740972 81139246 7 Jun 2006 15:09:16 UTC 9 Jun 2006 11:42:47 UTC Over Success Done 15,003.00 56.90 56.90
338699989 81129173 7 Jun 2006 13:26:25 UTC 9 Jun 2006 11:42:47 UTC Over Success Done 16,097.98 60.70 60.70
338394232 80819924 7 Jun 2006 3:08:25 UTC 9 Jun 2006 3:11:09 UTC Over Client error Computing 0.05 0.00 ---
338363331 81062424 7 Jun 2006 1:58:44 UTC 9 Jun 2006 7:43:27 UTC Over Success Done 17,142.53 62.41 pending
338301965 81049039 6 Jun 2006 23:37:48 UTC 7 Jun 2006 11:32:45 UTC Over Success Done 9,827.06 31.69 31.69
338163600 81017448 6 Jun 2006 16:04:09 UTC 8 Jun 2006 17:45:15 UTC Over Success Done 126.69 0.09 0.40
338083902 80998473 6 Jun 2006 12:37:06 UTC 8 Jun 2006 17:45:15 UTC Over Success Done 16,947.19 62.17 62.17
337967639 80970093 6 Jun 2006 7:23:55 UTC 8 Jun 2006 2:29:18 UTC Over Success Done 14,757.42 54.83 54.83
337927353 80962469 6 Jun 2006 6:12:08 UTC 7 Jun 2006 22:26:31 UTC Over Success Done 12,870.34 48.77 48.77
337670995 80948616 6 Jun 2006 1:54:38 UTC 7 Jun 2006 22:26:31 UTC Over Success Done 16,048.56 60.99 60.99

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SargeD

Do you have the HostID's for both her and SIMAP that would help... BTW You do have a nice colletion of Computers... There is still time for some to report Results before they time out... UYou have similar hardware running both 5.15 and 5.12C which gives a good comparison...

Regards

Pappa

CPU Time CC GC GC/Per Hour

2,971.27 23.61 11.61 13.7
2,983.39 23.71 12.18 14.4
2,967.33 23.58 14.52 17.1
2,953.03 23.47 13.25 15.6
2,987.22 23.71 14.80 17.3
2,977.27 23.63 13.34 15.6
3,081.20 24.45 14.81 16.9
2,969.58 23.57 11.95 14.0
2,975.91 23.62 11.15 13.1

AMD Barton 2500+ running stock w/512 megs DDR2700 Running SIMAP

CPU Time CC GC GC/Per Hour

23,069.39 62.37 62.01 9.7
23,088.14 62.40 62.04 9.7
24,624.34 80.74 80.74 11.8
5,510.98 19.79 19.73 12.9
23,270.95 62.78 62.43 9.6
33,420.08 58.69 58.69 6.3

Same machine running Seti Enhanced with optimized 5.12 application

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Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.

Clyde

To find the Angle Range (AR) if you click on the Result IDhttp://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=339101352
it will show the Angle Range in a form like "ar=0.073056 NumCfft=51177 NumGauss=" that first Results shows that it is a VLAR or very low angle range...

Pappa

This result sheet shows a pretty broad spectrum of what my main machine (Pentium D950 and XpPro) has encountered recently with workunits. Sorry but the angle ranges will have to be looked up. I don't know where tables with angle ranges and all this other stuff together are located. I hope it copies OK:

339101352 81227283 8 Jun 2006 9:53:36 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 29,427.73 58.69 95.88
339085456 81223347 8 Jun 2006 9:04:25 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 16,354.66 62.45 62.45
339073217 81220331 8 Jun 2006 8:26:57 UTC 8 Jun 2006 9:20:17 UTC Over Success Done 2,228.09 12.51 12.51
339073160 81220317 8 Jun 2006 8:26:57 UTC 8 Jun 2006 9:04:25 UTC Over Success Done 2,191.95 12.51 12.51
339036362 81211252 8 Jun 2006 6:27:18 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 16,861.83 62.46 62.46
339028810 81209384 8 Jun 2006 6:02:50 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 29,166.89 58.69 58.70
338976615 81196519 8 Jun 2006 3:11:17 UTC 11 Jun 2006 15:04:58 UTC Over Success Done 46,428.78 92.12 92.12
338886074 81174221 7 Jun 2006 22:26:31 UTC 10 Jun 2006 8:42:28 UTC Over Success Done 15,820.59 60.65 60.65
338864782 81168942 7 Jun 2006 21:15:59 UTC 9 Jun 2006 12:59:30 UTC Over Success Done 152.39 0.10 0.10
338747644 80995118 7 Jun 2006 15:25:23 UTC 10 Jun 2006 8:42:28 UTC Over Client error Computing 10,222.94 45.47 ---
338740972 81139246 7 Jun 2006 15:09:16 UTC 9 Jun 2006 11:42:47 UTC Over Success Done 15,003.00 56.90 56.90
338699989 81129173 7 Jun 2006 13:26:25 UTC 9 Jun 2006 11:42:47 UTC Over Success Done 16,097.98 60.70 60.70
338394232 80819924 7 Jun 2006 3:08:25 UTC 9 Jun 2006 3:11:09 UTC Over Client error Computing 0.05 0.00 ---
338363331 81062424 7 Jun 2006 1:58:44 UTC 9 Jun 2006 7:43:27 UTC Over Success Done 17,142.53 62.41 pending
338301965 81049039 6 Jun 2006 23:37:48 UTC 7 Jun 2006 11:32:45 UTC Over Success Done 9,827.06 31.69 31.69
338163600 81017448 6 Jun 2006 16:04:09 UTC 8 Jun 2006 17:45:15 UTC Over Success Done 126.69 0.09 0.40
338083902 80998473 6 Jun 2006 12:37:06 UTC 8 Jun 2006 17:45:15 UTC Over Success Done 16,947.19 62.17 62.17
337967639 80970093 6 Jun 2006 7:23:55 UTC 8 Jun 2006 2:29:18 UTC Over Success Done 14,757.42 54.83 54.83
337927353 80962469 6 Jun 2006 6:12:08 UTC 7 Jun 2006 22:26:31 UTC Over Success Done 12,870.34 48.77 48.77
337670995 80948616 6 Jun 2006 1:54:38 UTC 7 Jun 2006 22:26:31 UTC Over Success Done 16,048.56 60.99 60.99

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SargeD

Do you have the HostID's for both her and SIMAP that would help... BTW You do have a nice colletion of Computers... There is still time for some to report Results before they time out... UYou have similar hardware running both 5.15 and 5.12C which gives a good comparison...

Regards

Pappa

Pappa,

I will get the host IDs when I get a chance. As to the other machines, they are remotes and I will not be able to get to them again until Wednesday.

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Results from my current machine (Seti has just restarted, have to wait yet for the first enhanced to get Credit)

I'm running stock client 5.4.9 and stock applications.

Here is finaly the Seti: Enhanced

Projekt	WU	Time [sec]	Claimed	Granted	C/h claim
Seti	80950112	32895,56	61,24	61,24	6,70

So even the stock application overclaims here (other Projects average: 5,25)

Next one:
Seti 81287278 25645,65 48,33 48,33 6,78

Saenger and others

Part of this to help Eric, would having the HostID of the machine in other projects... The baseline Angle Range Workunit is a 0.42xx so catching one of those is one of the things needed... Then I, who have started a collection of the data here can quickly cut and paste the information... It then gives a larger picture as the Computer Type can be identified.

If you are concerned about posting, you are more than welcome to email me a link to the HostID of the other projects... From what I have been able to gather I have sent Eric several thousand lines of information in two spreadsheets... You can contact me at al.setiboinc (at) gmail.com replace the (at) with @.

And if people are still interested in what my collection of machines have seen for various AR's I will be happy to mail them a copy in Excel. Please not if you have a fast internet connection I believe that Open Office is still available... OpenOffice.Org to obtain an Office Suite that will work and can read the spreadsheet...

Thank You

Pappa

Results from my current machine (Seti has just restarted, have to wait yet for the first enhanced to get Credit)

I'm running stock client 5.4.9 and stock applications.

Here is finaly the Seti: Enhanced

Projekt	WU	Time [sec]	Claimed	Granted	C/h claim
Seti	80950112	32895,56	61,24	61,24	6,70

So even the stock application overclaims here (other Projects average: 5,25)

Next one:
Seti 81287278 25645,65 48,33 48,33 6,78

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Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.

Clyde

To find the Angle Range (AR) if you click on the Result IDhttp://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=339101352
it will show the Angle Range in a form like "ar=0.073056 NumCfft=51177 NumGauss=" that first Results shows that it is a VLAR or very low angle range...

Pappa

Yes, Pappa, I've seen those angle ranges listed with the results but they're listed separately from the other info. I've also seen some of my other VLARs with less crunchtime, say, eight hours instead of thirteen. Also the VLARs take longer to crunch than the 0.44s, for example, which is way out-of-line with what I've graphed from preliminary info presented in this forum before Enhanced got out of Beta. My graph gives 4.6x "unEnhanced" time for 0.44s but only 2.9x for VLARs (0.00 to 0.11 degree).

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Saenger and others

Part of this to help Eric, would having the HostID of the machine in other projects...

I only have this one machine running ATM, it's the same for all projects.
According to BOINCstats my host CPID is 217c23c6867fe4ee49f1ff4c6fd34dc4
Is this anyhow some secret value? isn't it the same as with the user CPID?

Concerning the angle range: Isn't it clear with the WU-number? Where can I find it on my account page or in BOINC?

What's interesting is the crunchtime and the claimed credits. Same time on same puter with stock only -> same claim for it.

According to BOINCstats my host CPID is 217c23c6867fe4ee49f1ff4c6fd34dc4
Is this anyhow some secret value? isn't it the same as with the user CPID?

Not sure what you mean by “secret”, but it’s not the same as your user CPID. It’s constructed by hashing your e-mail address with the checksum of certain properties & ‘vital statistics’ of the system when it was attached to a project. See the BOINC Wiki CPID article for details on both types.

Concerning the angle range: Isn't it clear with the WU-number? Where can I find it on my account page or in BOINC?

AFAIK there’s nothing in a WU’s name that comes from its AR. For a completed result, the AR is reported in the standard output file and therefore displayed on its web-page. There may be some BOINC add-ons that can report the ARs of cached or in-progress WUs , but the standard BOINC Manager can’t. However, if you open a WU with any text editor you can check it directly; it’s about fifteen lines from the beginning of the header, enclosed in “true_angle_range” tags.

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Saenger and others

Part of this to help Eric, would having the HostID of the machine in other projects...

I only have this one machine running ATM, it's the same for all projects.
According to BOINCstats my host CPID is 217c23c6867fe4ee49f1ff4c6fd34dc4
Is this anyhow some secret value? isn't it the same as with the user CPID?
...

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=2414369 is the HostID for this project (aka Computer ID). With the HostID of the same system in other projects, someone could look at results there and gather the data needed for Cross Project comparisons. The CPID is useful for seeing combined data at stats sites, but there's not enough information there for the needed comparisons.

                                                           Joe

Eric, please do not forget to check with the rest of the team about a way to ensure better moderation. I still think a complete sweep of all moderators and a way of voting on their effectiveness to put/keep them in office is the way to go.

We will continue to discuss this at our meetings. Now that Matt's back, he will experience how things have evolved since he left. I'm sure our next weekly meeting will explore these issues.

On happier news, thanks in part to Alex Kan giving me a kick in a part of the anatomy that I can't mention in the forums, I've been able to make life easier for people trying to optimize the application. (and made it easier for me to get optimizations back into the main sorce tree.)

If my test runs tonight check out, I'll be checking some stuff in tomorrow and releasing 5.17 to beta. Then I'll send a message with the details of the new features to the boinc_opt mailing list. It's nice to be getting back to (non Kitt Peak) work.

Eric

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@SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon)

I only have this one machine running ATM, it's the same for all projects.
According to BOINCstats my host CPID is 217c23c6867fe4ee49f1ff4c6fd34dc4

Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an way to query stats through the web sites based upon the host CPID. :(

I may have to press one of the PHP hackers to build such a thing.

Eric

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@SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon)

A couple of days ago I sent some results as Seconds/Credit. I see you prefer Credit/Hour.

Here's a replacement posting:

2 x 2.0GHz G5

SAH: 7.550 (averaged from 6 WUs)
EIN: 9.550 (3)
ROS: 9.285 (5)
SZT: 9.250 (18)

On those figures I get: SAH 1.00; Others averaged 1.24.

Computer:

Tyan Thunder 2500
Dual P3 800 Coppermine
1GB Corsair Reg ECC PC133 SDRAM (interleaved operation)
SuSE 10.1

I'm currently running Crunch3r's enhanced v5.12 to accumulate some numbers for a comparason of the Crunch3r app, the standard app, and other projects I'm running. For the 12 results returned since I started saving the information the average claimed cresit per hour rate for Crunch3r's enhanced v5.12 is approx. 3.47. The average claimed credits per hour rates for the other projects I usually run (Einstein, HashClash, Leiden Classical, and XtremLab) are all in the range of approx. 4.25 - 4.75. I'll switch to the standard version once I've recorded a few more results but based on past experience I expect processing times with the standard version to be an average of 40% longer. This would be an average credit per hour rate of approx. 2.48

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Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws.
Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)

ID		AR	Sec		Credit
339998291		0,42	44211,91		62,46
340252645		0,43	43078,89		61,31
341089794		0,53	35872,58		52,83
341538118		0,48	40183,97		57,04
342070381		2,82	10237,92		13,1
342136720		7,57	10781,59		12,52

17/06/2006 12:23:20||Processor: 1 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+
17/06/2006 12:23:20||Memory: 255.53 MB physical, 618.28 MB virtual
17/06/2006 12:23:20||Disk: 37.26 GB total, 15.10 GB free

:)

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SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
with a general handicap of 80% and it makes much d' efforts for the community and s' expimer, thank you d' to be understanding.

Credits are the opiate of the masses.

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/Mav

We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean.
We are ready at last to set sail for the stars.
(Carl Sagan)

Eric,

If you need a comparison of Enhanced to the new S5 work at Einstein:

My Computer
Intel Celeron D 2.93Ghz
256K L2 cache
512MB ram

SETI Enhanced Results
7.53 credit/hour
Ratio = 1.0

Einstein S5 Results
13.35 credit/hour
Ratio = 1.8

Notes:
* Average of last six results for each project
* Stock applications all around
* Enhanced data are from SETI Beta

Dig

If you need a comparison of Enhanced to the new S5 work at Einstein:

Thanks,

I was wondering what was going to happen there.

Eric

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@SETIEric@qoto.org (Mastodon)

P3 925 MHz
Seti 4.18 - 4.766 cr/hr (extrapolated from Beta forum_thread.php?id=434#4562
Seti Beta windows V5.12 7.82 cr/hr
Seti Enhanced between 3.3 and 4.8 cr/hr, average 4.22 cr/hr

Einstein,
Einstein (v 4.79) units 3.95 cr/hr
Albert (v 4.37) units 3.86 cr/hr

Pent M 1.86
Seti Beta windows ver 5.12
AR=0.53, 29.53 cr/hr
AR=2.8, 36.08 cr/hr

Seti Enhanced
common ar 14.42 cr/hr
High ar 17.92 cr/hr
Low ar all errored out

Einstein
Einstein (v 4.79) units 12.42 cr/hr
Albert (v 4.37) units 15.7 cr/hr

CPDN Sulphur 17.19 cr/hr

Andy

Update for Einstein

P3 925 MHz
Einstein 4.02
Short 7.7 cr/hr (average of 10 units)
Long two units done, one at 5.84 cr/hr
the second at 6.04 cr/hr

Andy