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Message 302484 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 7:34:43 UTC

I leave my laptop on 24/7 to do S@H work. It takes about 2 hours for one WU. So figure about 12 per day.

Is my 12 WU per day even worth it? Am I even putting a dent in what needs to be done?
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Message 302491 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 7:39:51 UTC

I have a computer that can only do 4 or 5 WU per day now since the enchanced while on 24/7.

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Message 302492 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 7:41:14 UTC

I've got a machine doing 1 or less a day on the enhanced. I like it...
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Message 302497 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 8:01:42 UTC

What is this enhanced I hear people talking about?

Im using BOINC 5.2.4 (Help>About says 5.2.13) and S@H 4.1.8, both from crunch3r's site. Are these what we're referring to?
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Message 302499 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 8:03:41 UTC

If you look at stats and draw conclusions from active hosts and credits/day I think the average is near 3/day, thats 4.18s. not enhanced.

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Message 302501 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 8:07:36 UTC

So, please elaberate on this "enhanced" everyone speaks of.

Sounds like one of those herbal supplement pills you hear of on late night TV.
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Message 302503 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 8:10:43 UTC - in response to Message 302497.  

What is this enhanced I hear people talking about?

Im using BOINC 5.2.4 (Help>About says 5.2.13) and S@H 4.1.8, both from crunch3r's site. Are these what we're referring to?

5.2.13 is the BOINC client which you have to download and install manually, it is worth checking occassionally and version 5,4 is due soon (how long is piece of string?).

Enhanced is a newer more sensitive analysis Seti Application. It will auto download and install IF you do not run optimised application.

If you are running optimised then
Set for no new work and complete work on your computer.
Go to BOINC\\Projects\\Seti folder and delete app_info.xml.
Set to receive work and if enhanced units are available it will download new application 5.1.12 with the units. These take longer to do but with BOINC updated will claim exactly +/- 1% same as everybody else.

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Message 302519 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 9:11:38 UTC

Yes, it is worth it!

I have a slower AMD Athlon XP 2500+ processor, and crunch about 2 Work Units per day.

I had not been crunching SETI units for a while. I started crunching again just a few weeks ago. Even with that, I already rank around 50% of SETI@home users. Pretty cool!

So, yes, if you're crunching data on a regular basis, you are making a difference. Keep crunching, Neo!
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Message 302530 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 9:48:13 UTC - in response to Message 302484.  

I leave my laptop on 24/7 to do S@H work. It takes about 2 hours for one WU. So figure about 12 per day.

Is my 12 WU per day even worth it? Am I even putting a dent in what needs to be done?


That depends on what you want and expect.

My single computer is not on 24/7, and I'm attached to 6 projects at the moment, where one, LHC, is suspended at the moment due to no work (I don't want my log being clogged up with all the messages from them saying "No work available"), and one project, Pirates, where I want work, but there's not much to get. So with 4 active projects, I do what I can. And I'm happy to provide every little titbit to the projects, I able to.

So for me it's worth it.

Happy crunching. :-)


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Message 302534 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 9:55:43 UTC - in response to Message 302530.  
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I leave my laptop on 24/7 to do S@H work. It takes about 2 hours for one WU. So figure about 12 per day.

Is my 12 WU per day even worth it? Am I even putting a dent in what needs to be done?


That depends on what you want and expect.

My single computer is not on 24/7, and I'm attached to 6 projects at the moment, where one, LHC, is suspended at the moment due to no work (I don't want my log being clogged up with all the messages from them saying "No work available"), and one project, Pirates, where I want work, but there's not much to get. So with 4 active projects, I do what I can. And I'm happy to provide every little titbit to the projects, I able to.

So for me it's worth it.

Happy crunching. :-)

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Message 302542 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 10:13:52 UTC - in response to Message 302534.  
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Did you see Tony's post? here

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No, I just woke up, so I haven't looked around much yet.

So LHC resumed!

Thanks Andy!!!

You're da man!!!! Yay! :-D



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Message 302602 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 11:57:15 UTC - in response to Message 302542.  


Fuzzy
Did you see Tony's post? here

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No, I just woke up, so I haven't looked around much yet.

So LHC resumed!

Thanks Andy!!!

You're da man!!!! Yay! :-D



Does this mean you are Happy!!!!!

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Message 302609 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 12:06:46 UTC

Neo-

You have to realize that all distributive projects where set up to have MANY people doing a LITTLE work.


NOT a few people doing lots of work.


There is not 1 person that would be missed if they left the project no matter how much they crunch.


For example:

Nez who I believe is #1 cruncher is contributing .74% of the total credit toward Seti and his RAC is around 300,000 per day (sounds like a lot but less than 1% of total contribution to Seti).


I’ve accumulated more credit than 91% of Seti users and I only have 31,000 credits. My total contribution to Seti is .00028%


So if you look at these figures you can see that most people are doing very little but when a large amount of people do a little….it adds up to a lot.

If your interested in this project any contribution is helpful.



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Message 302638 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 12:45:27 UTC
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i"d just like to add my two cents worth, I have only a p3 500 mhz computer and all you people that can do a standard wu in a few minutes and can do an enhanced wu in a few hours can laugh at me all you want. I believe in this project and I'm willing to do anything I am capable of to help. So just because it may take me several days to crunch an enhanced wu does not make it any less important than if it is crunched in an hour. The simple fact is it *is* crunched. That's like saying that it's not worth a trip from New York to Disneyland in Orlando Florida just because you don't have a jet plane that can take you there in an hour or two, but you have to take a bus or drive down yoruself and it takes a couple days to get there. Does that mean that the trip is not worth taking? By all means no. You still get the satisfaction of going (just like I get the satisfaction of knowing I'm helping a worthwile science project) and Disneyland still gets the benefit of your trip (in their case, your money that you spend while you're there), just as SETI or any other project I choose to run on my computer gets the benefit of my crunching wu's for them. It doesn't matter to them whether it takes a few minutes, a few hours, or even a few days to get an answer back. The *answer* itself is what is important. Not how long it takes to get it.
/edit/ Especially in a project such as this where we may have found the *signal* already but just haven't realized it yet since it takes several *hits* over many periods of time then reconfirmation by more direct observations to tell that we have actually *found* something. It's not like you crunch a wu and miraculously say *AHA HERE IT IS!!* It will take many observations at many different times to actually be able to say this. So what if it takes me two das to crunch a wu. It takes a *lot* longer than that to just get a second observation of the same part of the sky to compare it with!
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Message 302656 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 13:24:06 UTC - in response to Message 302602.  


Does this mean you are Happy!!!!!

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LOL! No, slightly pleased. You should see me when I'm happy! ;-D



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Does this mean you are Happy!!!!!

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LOL! No, slightly pleased. You should see me when I'm happy! ;-D



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Message 302694 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 13:58:10 UTC

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Message 302695 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 13:58:25 UTC

Obviously, the new enhanced workunits are taking a more in depth look at the data, thus, creating longer times for some folks. This approach will help to validate possible contacts and provide better results for us to revisit and procduce should we find something. I think that some people are forgetting the fact that this is not to see who has the most credit, fastest machine(s), or their standings...but to see if we can actually find another lifeform out there before we all become worm food and daisy fertilizer. I sure would like to know the answer and at least try to meet someone not from this planet before I am gone......
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Message 302704 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 14:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 302660.  


Does this mean you are Happy!!!!!

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LOL! No, slightly pleased. You should see me when I'm happy! ;-D



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Message 302707 - Posted: 11 May 2006, 14:16:54 UTC
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"is it worth it"????

Hmmm, if you mean is it worth the time it takes to fill out a sweepstake form,, then I'd have to say yes.

UPS just came and brought me two tickets to the "Dodge Charger 500" race at Darlington Motor Speedway for this Saturday. I won a sweepstakes from a form I filled out at the Dodge dealer while waiting and waiting for them to do a recall item on my truck. This includes two tickets to the Dodge Hospitality tent, and a chance (1 in 110) of possibly winning a grand prize of a 2007 Dodge Caliber. I never win anything, this is coooooool

So if any of you are going, I'll be in C-10-17or18
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