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Message 189598 - Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 22:55:47 UTC - in response to Message 189595.  

Isn't likely that weak signals that the enhanced could find might be lurking in any WU going back to the beginning?

Ok, I'll chime in. I've not read or interpreted anything Matt has said at any time in the past to suggest that they WILL be redoing old WUs (WUs/results that have already been crunched). I can see where it might be good should we run low on work in the future, but I don't see that opportunity raising its' head any time soon. I can see where running tapes that showed high instances of noise, and were placed in the "Box" might be a good thing though.

I don't know if you've ever played with a really good shortwave receiver (I'm sitting next to an FT-890, which has a fair receiver), but as you switch in filters, notches, shifts, etc. you can start to hear things clearly that were just "down in the weeds" before.

That isn't the best analogy, but the idea here is that the more sensitivity in the new app. in theory can pick out things that would have otherwise sounded like normal background noise.

... and a detectable signal that was below the threshold for the current apps (Classic too) are equally likely to be hidden in a work unit from 1999 as one from 2006.

Will they do that? Dunno.
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Message 189600 - Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 23:02:53 UTC
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my original MOS (military operational specialty) in the US Army was 26L, Tactical Satellite Microwave Systems Repairer. It changed later when I went the MSE(mobile subscriber equipment-the armys' cell phones) GTE/Rita Mobile subsciber repair school, and even later when I went into ComSec (communication security). My Father was a Ham (WD8MRM), so while growing up I got to "watch" him play with all the neat knobs. So I have (or had) a pretty good idea on the subject you're discussing. I seems like some have said it's going to happen, It just haven't seen that said. Not that the idea didn't contain some merit.
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Message 189610 - Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 23:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 189600.  

my original MOS (military operational specialty) in the US Army was 26L, Tactical Satellite Microwave Systems Repairer. It changed later when I went the MSE(mobile subscriber equipment-the armys' cell phones) GTE/Rita Mobile subsciber repair school, and even later when I went into ComSec (communication security). My Father was a Ham (WD8MRM), so while growing up I got to "watch" him play with all the neat knobs. So I have (or had) a pretty good idea on the subject you're discussing. I seems like some have said it's going to happen, It just haven't seen that said. Not that the idea didn't contain some merit.

There was an analogy a while back on this very subject that I liked, it went something like this:when man made glass it was a solid object and perfectly smooth, then man got a microscope and saw that it was not perfectly smooth at all! Then man got a better microscope and saw that the same piece glass was downright craggy looking, then man got an elctron microscope and low and behold that solid, smooth piece of glass was not solid or smooth at all, it was MOVING and VERY craggy! The moral is that with better instruments we can look at old data in new ways.

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Message 189611 - Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 23:48:22 UTC

I feel sorry for ET he is probally sat up there reading this forum and thinking the planet isnt worth recieving a signal from all the petty bickering over Classic & BOINC fact is they are both as valid as each other Classic did some great work and it is time to move on to pastures new.
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Message 189613 - Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 23:54:59 UTC - in response to Message 189611.  

I feel sorry for ET he is probally sat up there reading this forum and thinking the planet isnt worth recieving a signal from all the petty bickering over Classic & BOINC fact is they are both as valid as each other Classic did some great work and it is time to move on to pastures new.


(Not to mention wondering about grammar, spelling, lack of using "periods") But I second your jist. This whole "Classic v. SETI Boinc" is stupid...we all work for the same point and it shouldn't matter what conveyance we use to get to the end...the ends justify the means, not the other way around.
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Message 189614 - Posted: 16 Nov 2005, 23:59:02 UTC - in response to Message 189613.  

I feel sorry for ET he is probally sat up there reading this forum and thinking the planet isnt worth recieving a signal from all the petty bickering over Classic & BOINC fact is they are both as valid as each other Classic did some great work and it is time to move on to pastures new.


(Not to mention wondering about grammar, spelling, lack of using "periods") But I second your jist. This whole "Classic v. SETI Boinc" is stupid...we all work for the same point and it shouldn't matter what conveyance we use to get to the end...the ends justify the means, not the other way around.


Can cope with the lack of grammer and mistakes no one is perfect in the world just daft bickering over 2 different client theres worse things going on all over the world and yet some cry over Classic & BOINC

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Message 189645 - Posted: 17 Nov 2005, 0:58:21 UTC - in response to Message 189611.  

I feel sorry for ET he is probally sat up there reading this forum and thinking the planet isnt worth recieving a signal from all the petty bickering over Classic & BOINC fact is they are both as valid as each other Classic did some great work and it is time to move on to pastures new.

Are you kidding? He doesn't have to come here! We've been bombarding space with "I Love Lucy" reruns forever.
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Message 189649 - Posted: 17 Nov 2005, 1:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 189645.  

Are you kidding? He doesn't have to come here! We've been bombarding space with "I Love Lucy" reruns forever.


Oh my. Visions of The Squire of Gothos just ran through my head.

... and 50 light-years distant, aliens dressed as Lucy, Ricky, and the Mertz's sit down to dinner...


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Message 189651 - Posted: 17 Nov 2005, 1:14:25 UTC - in response to Message 189649.  

Are you kidding? He doesn't have to come here! We've been bombarding space with "I Love Lucy" reruns forever.


Oh my. Visions of The Squire of Gothos just ran through my head.

... and 50 light-years distant, aliens dressed as Lucy, Ricky, and the Mertz's sit down to dinner...

...or the "historical documents" from the movie GalaxyQuest.

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