Hi all,

I've been asking some questions both on this forum and in the Help forum, but nobody answered. If no one answers, is there any other way to get help? I cannot ask in the /dev/ forum because I cannot get an account there.

Thank you,

G

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Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms (Groucho Marx)

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Hi all,

I've been asking some questions both on this forum and in the Help forum, but nobody answered. If no one answers, is there any other way to get help? I cannot ask in the /dev/ forum because I cannot get an account there.

Thank you,

G

This may seem a bit fatalist, but if you're not getting answers then maybe nobody knows.

I took a look at your posts: I can't help with the fonts. I run Knoppix and don't have the problem.

Your problem with Earliest Deadline First may be down to you running too many projects on a slow machine, and the computer is overcommitted. I can't tell from looking at your computers - they're hidden - and you haven't said how many projects you are running.

If you can provide a lot more information about your project list and specification of computer(s) maybe someone can give you a few pointers.

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<b>Giskard</b> - the first telepathic robot.

First line of defense is the Wiki ...

The second is to clearly state the problem, describe your system, and ask clear questions.

If some one suggests you try something, you try that ...

I will be honest, I "patrol" the NC forum and I don't recall seeing your question ... So, this is one of the places to go ... ask away ...

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Yes, I do suggest reading the dang Wiki ... with a Google search it can find lots of answers and it DOES save all of us some time if you do try there FIRST ...

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This may seem a bit fatalist, but if you're not getting answers then maybe nobody knows.

That's what I thought, but my hope was that there was a way to get to the developers....

Your problem with Earliest Deadline First may be down to you running too many projects on a slow machine, and the computer is overcommitted. I can't tell from looking at your computers - they're hidden - and you haven't said how many projects you are running.

If you can provide a lot more information about your project list and specification of computer(s) maybe someone can give you a few pointers.

I'm running a Linux with 2 cpus. It's not a slow machine at all. And I'm running mainly Seti, CPDN, Einstein and Rosetta

Thanks

What are your resource shares and the size of you work buffer (connect interval).

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First line of defense is the Wiki ...

I did that. Found nothing

The second is to clearly state the problem, describe your system, and ask clear questions.

I did that

If some one suggests you try something, you try that ...

Nobody suggested anything

I will be honest, I "patrol" the NC forum and I don't recall seeing your question ... So, this is one of the places to go ... ask away ...

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=21400
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=21388
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=20928

What are your resource shares and the size of you work buffer (connect interval).

Connect interval: 1 day

Resources:
seti: 20
einstein: 20
cpdn: 20
rosetta: 10

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Oh, and which version of the BOINC Client ...

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This is also why we suggest not hiding your computers ... we can look ourselves. You can look at mine and see what I would see of yours ... there really is not much reason to hide them ...

And it does make it easier to help ...

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This is also why we suggest not hiding your computers ... we can look ourselves. You can look at mine and see what I would see of yours ... there really is not much reason to hide them ...

And it does make it easier to help ...

Not hidden anymore.

Boinc 5.2.4

Linux Debian 2.6.12-1-686-smp

What are the numbers for short-term and long-term debt for each of the projects? How much work do you have waiting for the other projects, do any have deadlines coming close (particularly CPDN)? In Preferences, what do you have for Switch between applications every...? What entries are you seeing in the Messages tab, would you copy and past a representative sample of them here, including those when you contact SETI@Home?

MJ

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> What are the numbers for short-term and long-term debt for each of the projects?

I don't know how to get this numbers.

> How much work do you have waiting for the other projects, do any have deadlines coming close (particularly CPDN)?

No deadlines coming close. Come on... I know all this things.... I've been using boinc for a while now. Everything worked ok, then I updated boinc and the projects do not swap anymore.

> In Preferences, what do you have for Switch between applications every...?

1 hour

> What entries are you seeing in the Messages tab, would you copy and past a representative sample of them here, including those when you contact SETI@Home?

All messages are: begin Wu / end wu / upload / begin wu/ end wu / upload...
Never asks for more WU

I don't know linux and can't help with the small font issue. If you read about the new scheduler in Pauls' wiki. It will explain how LTD works and how which project to run is decided. If you just upgraded from a v4 version to V5 there is a new DCF (duration correction factor) which expects wus to take longer to crunch, but the DCF will make the estimates almost dead on as you return work. Patience is needed. Do a search for BoincDV and download it from Skips site. Run it. Look at LTD for each project, and when the LTD for seti is almost positive, it'll start running or get more work. You need to be patient for all these numbers to settle out again and to resemble what you saw previously.

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Do a search for BoincDV and download it from Skips site. Run it.

It's a window$ program.....

I'll wait for a while, quiet in my corner without complaining, though.

oops, sorry. need mo coffee.

<master_fetch_failures>0</master_fetch_failures>
<min_rpc_time>1130174023.373381</min_rpc_time>
<short_term_debt>6954.789240</short_term_debt>
<long_term_debt>47014.120343</long_term_debt>
<resource_share>20.000000</resource_share>
<duration_correction_factor>0.955186</duration_correction_factor>

I don't know how a Linux user opens an xml file, but under the boinc folder there is a "Clientstate.xml" Open it and scroll through it, You'll find the LTD numbers for each project. If you want to change any of the debt you can do so in this file. Make sure you shut down boinc before editting any numbers. Warning: improperly editting this file can cause you to easily lose ALL your work.

thanks!

Regarding the font size issue, boincmgr uses the wxwidgets libraries that in turn use the GTK settings for fonts. Assuming that all the necessary packages and componets are installed, the gtkrc file is the place where font sizes are defined. On our Debian systems (Sarge 3.1) the system wide file is in /etc/gtk and is named gtkrc There are many different files in /etc/gtk for many locales, and the gtkrc file is symbolically linked to the gtkrc.iso-8859-15 file on our machines.
The contents of gtkrc.iso-8859-15 looks like this:

style "gtk-default-iso-8859-15" {
       fontset = "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1,\\
                  -*-arial-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1,\\
                  -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15,\\
                  -*-arial-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15,*-r-*"
}
class "GtkWidget" style "gtk-default-iso-8859-15"

The first fontsel line is what seems to control the font size in boincmgr. At least if I change the "12" to a "6" the boincmgr font get real tiny. At "12" it looks pretty good for me. There can also be a "per user" .gtkrc file located in the individual user's home directory. It is a hidden file (the dot in front of the .gtkrc) and if it is present, it's contents are used instead of the system wide file in /etc/gtk. While this may help solve the boincmgr font problem, it might have some impact on other programs that also depend on gtkrc for their font data. For example making the changes above also has an effect on the fonts displayed in the mozilla web browser. Might be a good idea to save a copy of the /etc/gtk/gtkrc or ~/.gtkrc file before performing surgery on it just in case something goes wrong. You can always copy it back if the unexpected does happen.

Your problem with Earliest Deadline First may be down to you running too many projects on a slow machine, and the computer is overcommitted. I can't tell from looking at your computers - they're hidden - and you haven't said how many projects you are running.

"Earliest Deadline First" is not by itself a problem.

All it really means is that BOINC isn't sure it will finish and report all of the work it has by the due-date, so it's going to do work in order by deadline so that it has the best chance of meeting all of the deadlines.

In the short term, you may see some projects get more than their fair share of time, but that time will get paid back later.

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oops, sorry. need mo coffee.

<master_fetch_failures>0</master_fetch_failures>
<min_rpc_time>1130174023.373381</min_rpc_time>
<short_term_debt>6954.789240</short_term_debt>
<long_term_debt>47014.120343</long_term_debt>
<resource_share>20.000000</resource_share>
<duration_correction_factor>0.955186</duration_correction_factor>

I don't know how a Linux user opens an xml file, but under the boinc folder there is a "Clientstate.xml" Open it and scroll through it, You'll find the LTD numbers for each project. If you want to change any of the debt you can do so in this file. Make sure you shut down boinc before editting any numbers. Warning: improperly editting this file can cause you to easily lose ALL your work.

Alternately, you can just leave the debts alone, and BOINC will do all of the work according to the requested resource share.

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No deadlines coming close. Come on... I know all this things.... I've been using boinc for a while now. Everything worked ok, then I updated boinc and the projects do not swap anymore.

The best recommendation here is to sit back and watch the show.

BOINC thinks based on the resource share, "connect every" interval, etc. that it might not get all of the work done by the deadlines. You haven't yet posted the relative long-term debts, but it is also discriminating against projects with negative debts and favoring those with positive debts.

Especially right after an upgrade, these numbers take a while to settle down.

So, you can muck with them, or you can just let BOINC run a bit and the various debts will settle to more reasonable numbers.

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