> Hello.
>
> I noticed something rather unpleasant in this version. I have swap beetwen
> applications interval set to 150 minutes. But when I do a manual update on any
> project, CC switches to another app.
>
> For example:

I've seen this also but not ALWAYS. It almost appears that doing a manual update causes CC to recalc "resource debt" and make a decision about switching at that point in time.

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- da shu @ HeliOS,
"A child's exposure to technology should never be predicated on an ability to afford it."

> Tried out the 4.25 BOINC Manager on all the computers, update went well, and
> all work continued on as before.
>
> I have a question about a new feature in the BOINC Manager, it is the option
> to "Select Computer" under the File menu.
>
> When I click that and type in a name of a computer on my LAN that is also
> running BOINC 4.25, the title bar flickers from "BOINC Manager (local host)"
> to "BOINC Manager (name_of_computer) for just a second and then back to "local
> host". And of course, I cannot remotely check up on the computer I just asked
> to connect to.

I have all my CC installed as single user with a remotehost.cfg file. I've seen the behavior you describe only when the remote PC started it's CC while the "managing" host was down or offline. You can confirm this in the remotes messages tab as there will be a red message at startup saying something to the effect of 'can't locate remote host'.

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- da shu @ HeliOS,
"A child's exposure to technology should never be predicated on an ability to afford it."

> > ==========
> > Use notepad and create a file called remote_hosts.cfg in each of your
> BOINC
> > folders. It should contain the IP address for each of your machines. One
> IP
> > per line. I had to close and restart BOINC for it to take effect.
> >
> > 192.168.0.2
> > 192.168.0.3
> > 192.168.0.4
> > 192.168.0.5
> >
> Thanks Chuck, that worked perfect.
>
> Also for those using Windows XP and you save that file as remote_hosts.cfg and
> its still labelled a text file, open it up again and choose "SAVE AS" and on
> the file type selector choose "All Files" and then it will be treated as a
> .cfg file and read by BOINC Manager on startup.
>
> I don't remember having to do that in older versions of Windows, just XP.

Don't think it does this if the default program for .cfg files is set to notepad.

Also instead of using IP addresses you can use hostnames (easier if you use DHCP to auto assign IP addresses).

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- da shu @ HeliOS,
"A child's exposure to technology should never be predicated on an ability to afford it."

> > I noticed something rather unpleasant in this version. I have swap beetwen
> > applications interval set to 150 minutes. But when I do a manual update on any
> > project, CC switches to another app.
> I've seen this also but not ALWAYS. It almost appears that doing a manual
> update causes CC to recalc "resource debt" and make a decision about switching
> at that point in time.

This is by design, according to answers I've seen here before, and a note in one of the bug reports on this issue. Basically, as you've guessed, updating a project is one of the actions that triggers a new schedule.

http://bbugs.axpr.net/bug.php?op=show&bugid=27&pos=0

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> Is it me, or does 4.25 no longer support these command line options? They
> seem tied to the CLI, so if you launch the Manager, there seems to be no way
> to pass these options to the CLI.
>
> I just started using these with 4.19, and like the functionality of
> -return_results_immediately. I'd like to not lose that in 4.2x.
>

Where there's a will there's a way.

:)

> Where there's a will there's a <a> href="http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?d=12079#85005">way.[/url]
>
> :)

Yes, I did see that post. I guess what I'm asking is why we should need to use that kind of workaround when the old Core Client handled the command line switches so much better. It seems that these could be implemented for Manager, and then Manager could pass them to the CLI if need be.

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> Yes, I did see that post. I guess what I'm asking is why we should need to
> use that kind of workaround when the old Core Client handled the command line
> switches so much better. It seems that these could be implemented for
> Manager, and then Manager could pass them to the CLI if need be.
>

Perhaps a Preferences tab in the GUI that you can set switches like this as well as General and Project Settings.

> > > I noticed something rather unpleasant in this version. I have swap
> beetwen
> > > applications interval set to 150 minutes. But when I do a manual
> update on any
> > > project, CC switches to another app.
> > I've seen this also but not ALWAYS. It almost appears that doing a
> manual
> > update causes CC to recalc "resource debt" and make a decision about
> switching
> > at that point in time.
>
> This is by design, according to answers I've seen here before, and a note in
> one of the bug reports on this issue. Basically, as you've guessed, updating
> a project is one of the actions that triggers a new schedule.

Well, that is just stupid. Why do we have an option to set time interval, when the app. doesn't take it seriously?

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Hi All,

I'd like to add my winges about 4.25 BOINC Manager :)

1) That hideous pane on the left :(

2) The lack of rclick menus - come on, WxWidgets does support them, I've been using wxwidgets programs since it was WxWindows.

3) Microsith Exploiter being started instead of the system default browser (Mozilla 1.75) :( (I run XP Pro SP2 if that's of any help)

4) Seeing as WxWidgets is cross-platform BOINC Manager will probably get inflicted on everyone :(

5) The lack of rclick menus :(

If I was a programmer I'd offer to help sort it out. Any programmers out there willing to lend a hand?

PS: I run BOINC as a service - does this have anything to do with the Exploiter issue?

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I uninstalled the 4.19 BOINC client on one of my machines, and installed BOINC Client 4.25 .. It's my Windows ME machine. (happily, my only one on winME.. the rest are windows 2000.. all still on BOINC 4.19 .. and I have one windows XP machine... with a SETI Classic client, sometimes running.)

No real problems.. but when it first started up, it didn't show any projects.. I attempted to attach a project, but nothing happened.. like with Windows ME, REBOOTING is that natural solution.. and my existing projects showed up and resumed (presumably) without a hitch.

With another strange lockup, I had to reboot again.. (The BOINC client was locked up). sadly the tab column widths on all of the screens had to be resized again.

This machine has SETI, Einstein, and LHC running .. (LHC is out of work units, so .. ummm, not running.) Not really anything noticeable going wrong on the project side.. but I can't really say that I like the new BOINC client.. I'll wait a while before upgrading the other machines...

// Brian

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> I uninstalled the 4.19 BOINC client on one of my machines, and installed BOINC
> Client 4.25 .. It's my Windows ME machine. (happily, my only one on winME..
> the rest are windows 2000.. all still on BOINC 4.19 .. and I have one windows
> XP machine... with a SETI Classic client, sometimes running.)
>
> No real problems.. but when it first started up, it didn't show any projects..
> I attempted to attach a project, but nothing happened.. like with Windows ME,
> REBOOTING is that natural solution.. and my existing projects showed up and
> resumed (presumably) without a hitch.
>
> With another strange lockup, I had to reboot again.. (The BOINC client was
> locked up). sadly the tab column widths on all of the screens had to be
> resized again.
>
> This machine has SETI, Einstein, and LHC running .. (LHC is out of work units,
> so .. ummm, not running.) Not really anything noticeable going wrong on the
> project side.. but I can't really say that I like the new BOINC client.. I'll
> wait a while before upgrading the other machines...
>
> // Brian
>

Are you sure it's not just the benchmark running. I've seen it lock up Boinc for quite a while on my system.

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Boinc V7.2.42
Win7 i5 3.33G 4GB, GTX470

Just my .02 cents. 4.25 runs fine but... I liked 4.19 better. I like the right click menu options better but that's just me. Overall it seems fatter without any real reason to be. No real complaints though and the main thing is that it works without a hitch so good job.

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The Graphics issue, seems to me anyway, to invlove the new BOINC software 4.25. I noticed the CPDN and the SETI I run do not function at all, nether does Einstein. Both CPDN and SETI worked fine in 4.19.

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>
> With another strange lockup, I had to reboot again.. (The BOINC client was
> locked up). sadly the tab column widths on all of the screens had to be
> resized again.
>

Column widths are preserved if you exit manually.

>> I uninstalled the 4.19 BOINC client on one of my machines, and installed
>> BOINC Client 4.25 .. It's my Windows ME machine...> >
>> No real problems.. but when it first started up, it didn't show any
>> projects..
>> I attempted to attach a project, but nothing happened.. like with Windows
>> ME, REBOOTING is that natural solution.. and my existing projects showed up
>> and resumed (presumably) without a hitch.
>>
>> With another strange lockup, I had to reboot again.. (The BOINC client
>> was locked up).
>> // Brian
>
> Are you sure it's not just the benchmark running. I've seen it lock up Boinc
> for quite a while on my system. -Aurora Borealis

I kinda thought of that, but one would expect the Message tab would be showing that going on. .. and I did pull up the system monitor and the cpu was not pegged .. but memory was hammered.

// Brian

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> >
> > With another strange lockup, I had to reboot again.. (The BOINC client
> was
> > locked up). sadly the tab column widths on all of the screens had to be
> > resized again.
> >
>
> Column widths are preserved if you exit manually. -KR Jones
>

Good point, I'll check that! Thanks,

// Brian

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> >
> > Column widths are preserved if you exit manually. - KR Jones
> >
>
> Good point, I'll check that! Thanks,
>
> // Brian
>

Actually it was me who wrote that! :-)

>
> > >
> > > Column widths are preserved if you exit manually. - KR Jones
> > >
> >
> > Good point, I'll check that! Thanks,
> >
> > // Brian
> >
>
> Actually it was me who wrote that! :-) - Ertugrul Gokcen
>

oh! sorry about that.. Thanks. .. and "yes", it does as you say!

// Brian

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For those people who are trying to get BoincView to see a Linux client, here is how I did it:

Since the most recent version of the Boinc Client, version 4.32 does not correctly accept project URLs or account keys at the command line, I first used version 4.19 to set these parameters.

% ./boinc_4.19
Enter project URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu
Enter KEY: (32 digit key here)

Wait a while until it starts crunching. Then kill with CTRL-C.

Then because 4.19 doesn't correctly return results to Boincview 1.0.3, we have to use v 4.32:

% ./boinc_4.32 -allow_remote_gui_rpc

At this point, just make sure that the IP address of your Boincview control computer is in the file remote_hosts.cfg. This allows Boincview to see the boinc client on your Linux computer.