Posts by lenette

21) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 475167)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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ONE good thing - all jobs are suspended and SETI hasn't downloaded any more work...

by the way, how much memory should i upgrade to? and where's the best place to buy it? i have a sneaky suspicioun that emachines is not it.

and does anyone live near corona CA, to help me install it? (can't hurt to ask, right?) i physically cannot do it myself.

L
22) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 475159)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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Martin -

I was looking at the TASKS tab in BOINC mgr. CPU time and PROGRESS change by only a TINY amount (seconds, or hundreths/sec), if at all. also windows' task manager shows 0% CPU usage for SETI, even while memory usage is constantly changing (avg. around 10,000k)

RUN ALWAYS i changed to NO
KEEP IN MEMORY is also NO by default
i have a windows screen saver set to come on after 10 min of inactivity.
YES my clock always shows the correct time/runs properly

currently i have one window open (this one), and nothing else open (norton is disabled) except task mgr, search results, and notepad

L
8888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

What makes you think that no progress was being made? What were you actually looking at and seeing?

What settings have you got for s@h on Boinc?

If you go to your account settings on the s@h website, have you got "run always" and "keep in memory" set?

Are you also running a 'screen saver'?

Happy crunchin',
Martin

[edit] Importantly: Is your PC clock/time always showing the correct time? [/edit][/quote]
23) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 475118)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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GEE GUYS, I feel so....IMPOTENT with my itty bitty machine.

i'll try to address everyone's remarks in order:

1. ASTRO - i think i was mistaken about two BOINCs in the system tray. however, you are correct - i did say boinc mgr is NOT in startup in msconfig.

2. DRYHEAT - thanks for the headsup re: norton 2007. every time i talk to emachines they try to sell me more memory, but i've always dismissed it as a marketing ploy. i guess the joke's on me, huh? how come i'm not laughing?

3. what version?- i just downloaded the latest version yesterday, which is when things REALLY got interesting. it was after that that SETI started running by itself. in addition, when i decided to change some preferences and clicked on the button, the program went WILD. in opened in FOUR windows, two new ones, and requisitioned the two i alread had open. it might have even opened more than four - i felt like i was on one of those porn sites where every time i clicked 'close' on a window, another one opened. can anyone explain this?

4.ODYSSEUS - that's very interesting about the throttle. when it was running properly last night it bounced between 0 and 100% cpu. is that what you mean?

5. ML1 - i do NOT run SETI & folding & norton at the same time - at least not any more. i WISH SETI was as problem-free as folding, as it never has any probs. but yeah, it'll knock SETI right out of business if i run them both. so now i just run one or the other. and the last two days i've been disabling norton as well, which i thought was helping, but now i don't know.

ok, now that i've gotten the old biz out of the way, everyone's gonna love what SETI is doing now...

1. Late last night (after midnite), when i finally got done, i restarted BOINC and SETI. then, since i had suspended all NINE jobs (that was another 'bug' - now every time i suspend all jobs, as i had always done with the previous version, SETI downloads more work like crazy.) anyway, i resumed the first-to-finish job, and while it SOUNDED like it was running (all that grinding and groaning the cpu makes), the job showed NO PROGRESS. I had seen some other posts by users that seemed to be having the same prob, so i suspended that job and started another. then everything seemed ok. i tried a couple others and they seemed to run OK also, so i figured maybe just the 12/19 job was messed up somehow.

well, this morning i was happy to see only 7 jobs in queue so i thought we were ok. but when i looked at the stats i saw that again the job running was not making any progress. then when i suspended it and tried some others, NONE of them showed any progress.

i ran a search on *BOINC* in case i had two versions running but everything looks ok. i have no duplicate files.

SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS? this thing has developed a life of its own, and i'm not having fun with this. should i uninstall as ASTRO suggests? and if so, do i need to abort the unfinished jobs first?

i'm sorry to ask so many questions, and everyone has been awfully helpful, so thanks to all, as usual,

lenette
24) Message boards : Number crunching : hey ASTRO, it's Lenette... (Message 474213)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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oh god - it appears as tho i have 2 copies running...i'm not sure, but i'm too tired to look at it anymore today. i've spent most of the day on this and it's getting a little old (like me).

i'll start it again tomorrow and check to make sure what it's doing. if necessary i'll try what you suggest. however i hope that my 'workaround' will keep the thing quiet (don't run until idle 30 minutes. and make sure i NEVER suspend all my jobs at once unless i want the damn thing to download more).

either way, i'm with you re: the registry. that thing scares me since i have so much potential to screw it up. i've already done one restore when my system got unstable and i'm in no hurry to do another one.

anyway, thanks and thanks again for all of your help. i'll touch base tomorrow and let you know what's happening.
25) Message boards : Number crunching : hey ASTRO, it's Lenette... (Message 474204)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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i had everything shut down (BOINC/SETI-wise), so i had to restart. i clicked on BOINC icon which gave me all three jobs. it was SETI that started running by itself again and which was hogging all the resources. aw CRAP.

THIS THING IS REALLY MESSED UP.

I had told one job to resume, but since it slows everything down, i suspended it to write this msg. but the buttons would not reflect the change - it still showed 'show graphics' even while 'resume' was also showing.

and i also noticed that every time i suspend all jobs, it instantly downloads another one - I now have EIGHT jobs in queue.

STOP IT!! I'M DROWNING...

Lenette




there are two seperate entities when running boinc, they are Boinc and Seti. Seti is the science application that actually does the work, Boinc just manages that (and any other) application. boinc consists of 3 parts; Boinc.exe (the daemon, which is required to run and does all the internal management), Boincmgr.exe (boinc manager, give us humans something to see and interact with), and Boincscr.exe (this is the screensaver).

26) Message boards : Number crunching : hey ASTRO, it's Lenette... (Message 474177)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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when i want to exit i right click on the icon in the tray and select exit. but as i amended my previous post to say, i usually keep it minimized with all jobs suspended while i work. then release when i'm done.

and yes, i click on the desktop icon to start boinc/SETI

L

OK we'll have it here.

This starting/stopping of boinc is my main concern at the moment. If it's not installed as a service (we checked that), and there's NO boinc in the startup of msconfig. I assume you start boinc manually when you want it to run, yes? Please explain "exactly" what you do to shut down boinc, do you use the B in the systray, or Select "file" then "exit" from the pull down menus, do you click the red x in teh upper right?

27) Message boards : Number crunching : hey ASTRO, it's Lenette... (Message 474154)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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there's no boinc in my startup...

for the time being i went into preferences and changed the time to 30minutes (where it asks how much time to wait), even though it's been 3 mins for years

i exited from the other BOINC in my tray, all is quiet (at least for now), so i'm going to leave well enough alone. that was just too weird though...i've never had it just start up by itself (especially with all jobs suspended) - i usually just minimize it so i don't forget to release the jobs when i'm done.

but maybe it was doing it all along and i never noticed...and just blamed it on norton (LOL). oh well, it seems ok now.

sorry about the crappy audio. i think i'll invest in a microphone.

nice chatting with you!

Lenette
28) Message boards : Number crunching : HOUSTON, i have another problem...HELP! (Message 474063)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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I'D Already exited, which is why i was (am) so alarmed to see SETI still barrelling along and hogging all my resources. i feel like my computer is possessed.

i was hesitant to 'end process' on task mgr because of the msg that doing so could cause the program to lose data etc. but since you are one of the brainiacs, hans, i took your advice, figuring if i screwed anything up i could put the blame on you (LOL).

nevertheless, i would sure like to know if anyone else has been having this problem, and/or how to stop it from continuing to happen.

thanks,
Lenette
29) Message boards : Number crunching : HOUSTON, i have another problem...HELP! (Message 474053)
Posted 6 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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ok, all you brainiacs out there, please help me with this one. i shut SETI down AND IT'S STILL RUNNING. using cpu and memory - over 40,000K - more than anything else. cpu is jumping between 0 and 100%, and ALL MY JOBS ARE SUSPENDED so even if i hadn't closed it it shouldn't be running. so what gives? is my computer haunted? it's hard to get anything done when SETI won't relinquish my computer.

HELP!!!!

Lenette
30) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 473945)
Posted 5 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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one more note:

my screensaver has a funny little glitch - the time and frequency coordinates are running off the grid. and i don't think i've ever seen the coordinates shown as 2-dimensional skyscrapers. they were always either 3D or spiky (or am i hallucinating...always a possibility).

L
31) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 473924)
Posted 5 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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i have downloaded the latest version. curiously, for the first minute or so, SETI muddles around in the 8% range, then finally runs up to the 90's. (is this thing powered by a turbo diesel? it reminds me of my old car)

then i re-opened norton, and - dare i hope...? oh WOW! it's back up in the 90's again. phew!

I don't have a very big system, at least not by SETI-user's standards, which i'm sure is part of the problem (altho i DO have 128MB). Nonetheless, i'm seriously considering going with a Mac next time.

does BOINC run on Mac (i'm sure it must, but i've never paid attention).

again, thanks

Lenette

32) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 473801)
Posted 5 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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i'm running norton antivirus 2005, but just ordered (on ebay at half of cost of symantec) 2007 on CD. didn't want to take the chance of downloading it and then needing to reinstall - had that before, ain't doing it again.

astro - i just realized that you're the 'crazy user' - sorry about that

in answer to the other questions - can't run SETI AND norton AND surf at the same time so SETI just runs when i'm done. and i'm on a desktop, not laptop.

sorry to hear about your health, astro, but glad you've survived the medical profession. i have plenty of health probs myself, one reason i'm at home diddling around on the net instead of being gainfully employed.

and yeah, i can type pretty good - today. that's not always the case, though. my fingers get 'stupid' after a while and i have to quit. but such is life, right?

thanks everyone!

Lenette
33) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 473746)
Posted 5 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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thanks astro

i just downloaded skype and tried it. didn't find the sound quality very good on the call though. but thanks for the explanation.

i am going to download the latest version as you suggest.

as for my problem - no i haven't downloaded anything like that - i don't even know what it is (told you i know next to nothing). however, i had an idea...ever since i installed norton i noticed my system has been a lot slower.
so i got offline and exited norton. and VOILA! SETI took off like mad, AND it's the first time i have EVER seen CPU usage (the one at the bottom of task mgr) show 100%. I thought that user was crazy last night when he/she said it always showed 100,, because mine never had.

anyway, i have no idea why norton would affect task mgr in that way, but from now on, i'm going to disable it when i'm number crunching.

lenette
34) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 473692)
Posted 5 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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i'm running 4.43. i guess i'm a little behind the times. and what is skype?
35) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 472980)
Posted 5 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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task manager is where i saw the problem. and it doesn't always run at 100% - e.g. when i run SETI and it's the only thing running the cpu usage is reflected at the bottom of task manager and also next to the app. that's how i knew what percentage SETI and Folding use.

maybe i should clarify - yes, system idle shows whatever is not being used, but at the very bottom it is not included in the cpu usage figure.
36) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 472895)
Posted 5 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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I checked to see what happpens when i run both. It used to be close to 50/50, but now Folding will take over and give seti next to nothing.

but at night, or when i'm done for the day, i close everything except seti, so there is NOTHING running, and it hovers between 7-12%. this has only been the last several times, not since i started. and i despair that my jobs will ever finish in time. it ran all night last night and i think i went from 50% to 54% completed.

aaarrgh.

i thought i HAD 128mg but maybe i don't. i have to check

37) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI IS ONLY USING 8% CPU with nothing else running (Message 472864)
Posted 4 Dec 2006 by Profile lenette
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i also run Folding@Home. It runs at 100%. SETI used to be more efficient, so i am completely baffled.

Oh yeah, and in case you hadn't already figured it out, i know next to nothing about this kind of stuff, unlike just about everyone else here. so if anyone has any suggestions or answers, i would greatly appreciate it.

also, i was in the hospital in sept and two jobs never completed, so obviously they are way past their completion date. Do i just 'abort' them, and do i need to let anyone know....?

Thanks!
38) Questions and Answers : Windows : HAVE I LOST WHAT LITTLE REMAINS OF MY MIND? (Message 286062)
Posted 20 Apr 2006 by Profile lenette
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It's normal. The "to completion" is an estimate, it's not real wall-clock time. So as the result progresses, the time can go up. Eventually, later in the result it will stop rising and then go down again. Nothing to worry about and really nothing to baby-sit. Just let it run in the background.


thanks as always for the quick response. i didn't figure that the world was suddenly going to flip its magnetic poles or anything, but it looks so ridiculous to watch the time to completion increasing by leaps and bounds that i had to ask. i guess it's always done it, but i just never bothered to pay attention, because, now that that job has successfully comleted, the next one is doing the very same thing.

thanks for the reassurance,nonetheless.

Lenette
39) Questions and Answers : Windows : HAVE I LOST WHAT LITTLE REMAINS OF MY MIND? (Message 284364)
Posted 18 Apr 2006 by Profile lenette
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Actually, that is a rhetorical question which need not be answered, thanks anyway. but i do have a situation which is making me crazy...

on the 'work' page of my BOINC window, there are, among others, two columns: 'progress' and 'to completion'. one would expect that as 'progress' increases, 'to completion' would correspondingly DECREASE. but today (and maybe it has always happened, but i just never noticed it before), as 'progress' increases, SO DOES 'to completion'. When i started SETI up today, the particular job running showed about 13 minutes to completion, but only 28% completed. So i knew that was wrong. But now it's up to 31 minutes, all the while, the 'progress' continues also to increase. I might also add, that the 'to completion' is not keeping real time - it is FASTER, approximately double time, making me fairly certain that something odd is happening.

Have i suddenly fallen into a parallel universe where such things happen with regularity? will this job ever end? what happens when 'progress' reaches 100% but 'to completion' shows 2 or even 3 hours? will this send the entire SETI project on its ear? or will just MY computer turn into a pile of smoldering plastic and noxious fumes?

Is SETI trying to make up for lost time? this is the only semi-logical explanation i can come up with, and that once it gets itself back into alignment, the 'to completion' will once again begin to decrease.

i am SOOO confused. I sure hope some sypathetic soul out there can explain. Please be quick - 'to completion' is now up to 51 minutes, an increase of roughly 40 minutes in the 20 minutes i have spent writing this query.

thanks!

Lenette
40) Questions and Answers : Windows : Completed Seti work unit won't upload (Message 240596)
Posted 1 Feb 2006 by Profile lenette
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clik on the projects tab, click on seti in the right hand box and then update in the left hand column.


Mikey, you ARE the SetiMaster! cleared everything right up. thanks very much!


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