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21) Message boards : Number crunching : Cricket Graphs? (Message 1716433)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Well, now that we have had the great router reshuffle, is there any chance of getting to see our traffic on the crickets, or any other service?

I was wondering that same thing. One thing that I was pretty sure I interpreted correctly is.. we're not using Hurricane Electronics anymore, right? We're using the campus' ISP now?

Could be. I believe there was mention they had a plan to switch at some point in order to save money. I imagine if it has been switched we may not know until we get a "what has been happening" update post.
22) Message boards : Number crunching : 42,052 update operations? (Message 1716427)
Posted 10 days ago by Profile HAL9000
My Win 7 Ultimate machine was running very sluggish and wasn't responding so I did a restart. Not much different. So I did a complete shut down, at that point it said "installing 1-25 updates, don't switch off". Left it to it for 1/2 hour and brought it back up. Did the usual BIOS messages then said "Update operations xx of 42,052. Loads of scrolling going on, replacing DLL's etc. Complete system reboot off it's own bat.

We now have a stable machine where everything is working properly, but what the hell was that all about??? Never ever seen that before :-(

Given there are currently only a total of 770 possible updates for Windows I can only guess that another operation may have been occurring. Perhaps a disk check or repair of system files.
23) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1715886)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile HAL9000
I just picked up 2 Win 7 64 Pro off Amazon Prime, as an insurance policy. I am intending to retro grade my 2 daily drivers back from 8.1.


H.P. is still offering Win 7 Pro 64 bit with nvidea graphics in the $550 to #650 range with bells/whistles added.

I'm not sure if I would want my computer to have any bells or whistles.
Despite Windows 7 being "end of life" many computer manufactures are still offering it.


if you think that supported till 2020 is end of life lol

"End of life" is typically when sale have stopped. While "end of support" are the dates that Microsoft lists in its product life cycle.
24) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 16 year club (Message 1715883)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Damn, forgot that yesterday was my 16th Seti@Home anniversary...

I don't really worry about the specific day anymore & think of it more as "this year is my X year running SETI@home".
25) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting WU's on Intel GPU? (Message 1715880)
Posted 11 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Ok thats a shame, my R9 Fury seems to be getting work fine which made me think it might be some other issue on the other box.

Your 5930K machine also seems to be requesting work much more often. While your 4590T looks to be asking about once a day.
26) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1715454)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile HAL9000
I just picked up 2 Win 7 64 Pro off Amazon Prime, as an insurance policy. I am intending to retro grade my 2 daily drivers back from 8.1.


H.P. is still offering Win 7 Pro 64 bit with nvidea graphics in the $550 to #650 range with bells/whistles added.

I'm not sure if I would want my computer to have any bells or whistles.
Despite Windows 7 being "end of life" many computer manufactures are still offering it.
27) Message boards : Number crunching : Not getting WU's on Intel GPU? (Message 1715448)
Posted 12 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Posted over at the Einstien forums as I am having the same issue there and they said it was because my driver was to new, trying a older one now.

As far as I know SETI@home only checks to make sure the iGPU has an OpenCL 1.2 capable driver & your machine is displaying INTEL Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600 (1400MB) OpenCL: 1.2. If the latest driver is actually any good is a different question. Often new GPU drivers can cause the GPU apps to not work correctly. So it it better to have a "known good" driver rather than the latest.

As far as not getting work. You can look in the event log to see what kind of response you are getting from the server when you request work. However at the moment it has been over 12 hours since that machine has contacted the servers to request any work.
There were some recent network and server maintenance issues. So you may need to flush the DNS cache on that system for it to correctly find the server.
28) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1714862)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile HAL9000
This is the link for the Microsoft tool.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3073930

And you can go to the Control Panel/System/Advanced Settings/Hardware, and choose not to install drivers.

I am not sure if it works yet, but it is what Microsoft recommends.

Steve

That did not work in the last Preview version, but who knows. Maybe they actually fixed it.
29) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems? (Message 1714664)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile HAL9000
I put an irc server up to chat when seti is down

76.101.50.133/6667

cmon in and chat

you will need a irc client like mirc or hexchat to connect

channel is #setidown

Always good to have another source besides the The Seti is Down Cafe on the BOINC fora.
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel_GPU & app_config (Message 1714417)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile HAL9000
You can get the plan class names from the list of Applications

For an iGPU running in Windows the configuration would look something like this.
<app_config> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name> <plan_class>opencl_intel_gpu_102</plan_class> <ngpus>1.0</ngpus> <avg_ncpus>0.1</avg_ncpus> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_v7</app_name> <plan_class>opencl_intel_gpu_sah</plan_class> <ngpus>1.0</ngpus> <avg_ncpus>0.1</avg_ncpus> </app_version> </app_config>
31) Message boards : Number crunching : PC Upgrading. (Message 1712347)
Posted 18 days ago by Profile HAL9000
I think getting DDR4 for only £50 seems like a good deal. I haven't heard anything that would shy me away from Skylake yet.
32) Message boards : Number crunching : crossfire Gpu support (Message 1712338)
Posted 18 days ago by Profile HAL9000
You may actually need to disable crossfire in the driver when running SETI@home. The last time I tested running with crossfire enabled I ended up with trashed work. However newer drivers may resolve the issue.
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Will SETI ever support the BOINC cache settings? (Message 1711881)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile HAL9000
That was a generalization; You need massive data processing to do anything with radio telescopes, whether you're watching a sun explode and trying to model it from the data or looking for ET in the same RF noise. Nobody ever sees the computational layer until it suddenly becomes unavailable.

I imagine most of those kinds of people factor in however many hours they needs on a super computer to crunch their data.
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Results? (Message 1711760)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile HAL9000
No such luck. Task 4310560648 is still in the database, but the associated WU 1865970821 was purged after 24 hours as usual.

So the pile of un-purged results is going to get worse.

Indeed every task from 4294967296 to 4294967250 is still present in the system with its associated workunit having been purged. While tasks from 4294967295 to 4294967250 & earlier have been purged.

The newest task I have is 4312462714. So that gives us at least 17,495,418 tasks that will be orphaned. So the current total of 12,714,491 Results waiting for deletion doesn't even account for all of the new work generated.
35) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Results? (Message 1711698)
Posted 19 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Don't forget that any result that has been validated will vanish from your list after 24 hours. So it is possible that you have returned results where you wingman was "waiting" for you, in which case validation would be "instant, and then 24 hours later they don't show...

That's certainly the case for Rasputin, because he's currently working on tasks issued om 31 July 2015, before we reached task 2^32. It's even possible that in their efforts to clean up the database last night, the crew ran an extra DB purge which removed validated tasks earlier than the normal 24 hour grace period.

Fir the rest of us, working on tasks issued after Task 2^32 (2 Aug 2015, 5:44:59 UTC), the normal 'disappears 24 hours after validation' rule doesn't currently apply.

I have several, like this wu, that were issues & completed just before maintenance started. So I'm not sure if they ran an early purge.
Since the wu will be purged soon. Here are the timestamps of the two results.
Sent: 11 Aug 2015, 10:41:43 UTC, Reported: 11 Aug 2015, 14:41:22 UTC
Sent: 11 Aug 2015, 10:41:46 UTC, Reported: 11 Aug 2015, 12:18:40 UTC
Perhaps that one didn't make it through the validator stage before maintenance started, but I have dozens that were reported & validated prior to maintenance. The oldest wu I can see with both results now goes back to 11 Aug 2015, 13:13:01 UTC. As the rest have started the delete/purge process.
36) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1711047)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Not to talk about the automatic device encryption where the encryption key, is held hostage at the MS spyware department.


This is not true. You are not required to store your encryption key in the cloud on your Microsoft account. You still have the option to store your encryption key on a USB stick as you've always been able to do.


On Windows 10 Home, which will be the version most people will use, "The BitLocker recovery key for your device is automatically backed up online in your Microsoft OneDrive account."

On Pro version yes, there are other options, but the average user will not install Pro.

The average user will not have a clue how to change the default settings anyhow. Screeeweed...


Well yes, the default is to save to your Microsoft account.. but you speak it as if users are unable to learn any other way. I agree that most probably won't, but the option is there and any tech friend can show them. My point is, there are options.


The best option: Stay with your previous version. Microsoft is playing a dirty (on the verge of criminal) game, with this "free upgrade"

The EU commission will fine MS, billions of dollars this time, unless they remove all the spyware from W10, sold or given away for "free", within the European Union.

Windows 10, the bait-and-switch OS :-)
And it's getting even better:

'Free' Windows 10 Now Looks A Terrible Deal


"...The news comes from ComputerWorld which attained Microsoft internal slides that strongly suggest many Windows 10 owners will have to start paying to receive updates within two years. The key lines ComputerWorld discovered are:

“Revenue allocated is deferred and recognized on a straight-line basis over the estimated period the software upgrades are expected to be provided by estimated device life…. [The estimated device life] can range from two to four years."

"....Promising ‘Free Windows 10′ then delivering ’Freemium-Windows-10-Get-Your-Credit-Cards-Out-In-Two-Years’ would be a disaster and right now Microsoft’s ongoing silence about how everything works feels ever more suspicious."

Well it probably doesn't count spyware when they are saying "we are going to collect everything about you" in the license agreement that the user accepts.
37) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (Message 1710986)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Luckily I have most of the privacy 'options' turned off and I do not have a OneDrive account.

If you have a Microsoft account (e.g. a Hotmail, Outlook or (Windows)Live login), you have a OneDrive account.

It's like Google Drive that I never use.
38) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems? (Message 1710973)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Just a question with no dis-respect intended, when is Yuri's funding going to start or is that strictly for purchasing observing time?

Seems to me a few thousand dollars of that enormous endowment would be well spent upgrading equipment and software for more efficient analysis and distribution of the data.

Again, just a question.

I would imagine that it would take several months to plan what money needs to go where & then it maybe slated for a 2016 or 2017 budget for SETI@home.
39) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems? (Message 1710925)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile HAL9000
Perhaps a fundraiser for a small VM machine they would move some light weight services to. Then when a box dies it doesn't require a lot of work to get things going. Just restart the VM.

A larger VM setup could also be helpful for those times when they get an OS kernel panic & a machine locks up. With a VM server monitoring things it would reboot a locked up machine.
40) Message boards : Number crunching : extremely slow machine (Message 1710912)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile HAL9000
if i install windows on it i doubt i can use all the processor cores in the machine


I have a dual CPU Z800 MB that ran SETI under Win 7 with dual quad core CPUs, and with HT turned on, it happily ran 16 threads. I am sure it will work OK with dual hex core with HT turned on (24 threads). After all, HP sells them in the dual hex configuration running Windows...


well these are real 24 cores no hyperthreading 4x6 i think the real core limit on win 7 is 8 per core and a 2 socket limit


Windows licensing is by socket only. The number of cores per CPU is not a factor. Windows 7, any version, is limited to 2 CPU sockets. Any Standard edition of Windows Server allows up to 4 CPU sockets.
The only core limits are by platform for Windows. A 32-bit OS only supports up to 32 cores cores per CPU & a 64-bit OS supports up to 256 cores per socket.


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