Posts by Alex Storey

21) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1834552)
Posted 7 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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I thought it was ""government of the people, by the people, for the people, "


It is. But via the States. And again, that's a good thing.

Unless y'all prefer the EU model where Germany rules the roost.

Food for thought.
22) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1834549)
Posted 7 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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Fine. Two can play at that game.

So you are saying that the 95.4% that ARE employed have a remuneration median of $39,509?
23) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1834533)
Posted 7 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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Oh FFS.

By definition, 50 percent of wage earners had net compensation less than or equal to the median wage, which is estimated to be $29,930.13 for 2015
.

And if you find a number that's 34k or whatever, fine we'll go with that one. I really, really, really don't care.

But it's always going to median employed when you are referring to unemployment numbers.

NEVER full-time.
NEVER household.

Do you guys understand that yet or not?

https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/netcomp.cgi?year=2015
24) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1834523)
Posted 7 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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Did not make this assumption - I had no idea what stat you picked, The only assumption I made was that you had a solid foundation for your statement, thus far it seems I was in error.


Ok, 3rd try at explaining this.

See bold above? As this is math, there is only one stat ANYONE can pick. There really is only one right answer.

If someone drops unemployment numbers on your lap that means you have X amount employed and Y unemployed. Now forget Y (which I'll remind you is the 4.6% stat). We're throwing 'em away because they made ZERO dollars.

Every one of those X made a specific amount of money in 365 days.
Now if you sort those X employed by annual income and try to find the guy in the middle, my MEMORY is saying Average Joe makes 30k.

(A wiki number I gave you earlier pretends that no-one aged 17-24 works for a living in the US so the median goes up obviously and it's the 32k previously posted. I think that's more than close enough to 30k considering the amount of low income earners you are chucking out of the equation.)

Is this understood by you and WK now?
25) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1834491)
Posted 6 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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I still think your stat is the wrong one. And you haven't justified it yet as to why it is the correct one.


OMG, I thought you understood this but you were just saying "yeah but full-time numbers paint a slightly better picture overall".

WK, I'm sorry but this is math... it's not up for debate. I know you're good at math and I know I've justified, not once but... in two different ways why it is the correct one. So either take a closer look at the post you replied to or ask me to explain it a third time and I will :)
26) Message boards : Politics : Word of the Year 2016 (Message 1834488)
Posted 6 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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Post-Truth eh? Cute.

You guys are kidding right? I mean, I know mosta-yall come here just to blow off steam so I get why smarts are often AFK but...

But, but! This is your chance to summarize 2016 in a few words!

So no matter what website chooses whatever...
The Peoples Choice for 2016 is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Establishment

Meanwhile in April this happened and already everybody's forgotten about it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offshore_tax_haven)

Then there's these inconvenient little truths:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_to_Play
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_deal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downward_Mobility & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-class_squeeze
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_Capitalism
and my personal favorites:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_welfare
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy


Even if it's zany you're after and prefer to end the year on a high note, I can still think of a couple more obvious choices than lame ol' "post-truth".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basket_of_deplorables

Last but - most certainly - not least...

Grab 'em by the... whatever ;)
27) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1834443)
Posted 6 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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I don't see what's wrong with the one suggested by WK (full time aged 25 to 64). Alex disagrees, though it's unclear why.


No wonder we have a failure to communicate.

Bobby, no offense, but you are misusing and misunderstanding your stats. Let's start over:

You said
What counts as a failing economy in a post-truth society:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/12/02/employment-situation-november

I said
And in their (the politicians of both parties) obsession to game that number half of America ended making less than 30k a year.
It doesn't matter if there's ZERO unemployment.*
What matters is a teacher in San Fran can't afford to live in San Fran.
*It used to. Not anymore


After that you made 3 mistakes in a row:
1st you assumed I chose the wrong stat.
Then you thought you found the right stat.
Then you thought WK found the right Stat.

I'll ignore (for now) the fact that you completely glossed over all the important bits of my very short reply which were (in order of appearance)
-gaming employment numbers
-employment numbers are becoming irrelevant
-a teacher can't afford to live in San Francisco

Anyway, 3 people provided stats. The only one that is relevant and directly related to the unemployment numbers you referenced is the 30k I pulled out of my *ahem*... memory.
If 4.6 percent are unemployed then the median income of the remaining 95.4 is 30k (IIRC that is)

or this may be easier to understand

Q: When referring to employment/unemployment, which median can be used?

a) All employed, median
b) All full-time employed, median
c) All employed, household, median
28) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too... (Message 1834173)
Posted 5 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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So I went out with Maria for our first beer in 4 months... Renzi already resigned? Damn!

Awesome :)

60/40?

Awesome :)
29) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too... (Message 1834058)
Posted 4 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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But to bring this thread slightly back on track and address the - by far - most important issue of the day:

This is me crossing my fingers and hoping that the Tony Blair of Italy gets his a** handed to him today. Enough with the neo-liberal narcissists already.

(Seeing as the Guardian has fully endorsed him, I'm liking my odds of getting this one right too. My crystal ball hasn't failed me yet)
30) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too... (Message 1834054)
Posted 4 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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The way congress gave themselves the authority to regulate a naturally occurring plant was to claim it under the commerce clause, create a tax on it, make it illegal to possess if the "TAX STAMP" was not affixed to it, and then NOT ISSUE TAX STAMPS. wrong, wrong, wrong!


I'm guessing this statement isn't going to compute for most even though there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

At best, one could use it as a stepping stone to (rightfully) go on a Tricky D rant... but that's about it.
31) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1834047)
Posted 4 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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Nope, sorry. I'm still going to call you & Gary lazy. You've both gone into a "grammar police" mode but have yet to go into "fact checking" mode.

It should (hopefully) be obvious after my responses to all the nitpicking that:

"half of America ended [up] making less than 30k a year"

now stands as
"half of all working Americans ended up making less than 30k a year IIRC"


And I'm still waiting for someone to come along and rub my "fallible recollections" in my face.

(The rest of your post will have to wait. I can only handle one thing at a time)
32) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1833938)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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OH WAIT, I bet you have to put a condition on that 40 hours. I bet that condition would make someone who works 60 hours a week not be counted as "full-time." Am I right?


You sure sound like you're right. But I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.
Please help.
33) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1833935)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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(I'm essentially answering a PM)

What's yours for the "half of America ended [up] making less than 30k a year" claim?


I'm sorry Bobby, I don't have one. I'm obviously going from memory. If I got it grossly wrong you are free to rub it in my face.

WK is quoting full-time BTW. That's not what I said. I didn't feel the need to point it out because it's obvious we're not talking about the same thing.
However, right above his stat is one that is a lot closer to what I was saying and it's:

All, age 25+  32,140


Or take your "household" stat. Just factor in "married" and you'll arrive a lot closer 30k than you think.

All of which has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make which is:
Even if the average full-time worker made 50k it wouldn't matter one iota as long as the graph below looked like this

34) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1833890)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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Overall Median, Total population, Full-time workers, age 25-64, $39,509


Now you're talking. Finally someone put in a little effort.

- - - - - - -

Now 2 questions:
1) Are full-time workers on the rise or in decline?
2) (And remember this is what started this little tangent of ours) Does it matter that "the economy" is doing well when Trump is the price you have to pay?
Obviously something is going wrong... "Post-Truth" didn't give us Trump, the "Gilded Age" did.
35) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too... (Message 1833885)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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And who has the power to amend that Constitution?
36) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too... (Message 1833866)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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I'll let Jefferson answer that:

"You seem to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy."

(Queue Citizens United BTW)
37) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1833863)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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You really can't tell "worker" is implied here? Seriously? Babies?

Without a source for the number and a methodology of collecting it, no!


You guys don't have keyboards?
38) Message boards : Politics : Nasty SCREECHIN' Nasty Sign Wavin' Nasty Weepin'WHACKO CRYBABY COMMIE CLOWNS Protesting All Over dA Vrold Keep It Up CRYBABIEs You Are DESTROYING YourSelves GREAT Yap (Message 1833861)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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Yes you did. But I don't think you spent a lot of time letting the info in your source sink in.

Those numbers are abysmal in historical context and downright offensive when compared to US economic growth.

Smarter people than you got this wrong too, so don't feel bad.

In fact, only just recently Hillary's Corporate Democrats gave us the "gift" of Trump.

Because Trump out-lefted Hillary on this particular issue and the Rust-Belt bought it.

BTW, links are great and can contain useful info but books are always a better "source".

So the links below are just a stepping-stone... not a "source".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_Joe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
39) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too... (Message 1833854)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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OK, one more try. You are playing the chicken and the egg. Yes the egg came first.

But then the egg said: "The States are sovereign."

I'll carry on believing the US Constitution is Supreme, and from it all stems all sovereignty.


The Constitution (for now) ensures you are free to believe anything you want. But the Fed cannot take power away from the States, yet the States DO have ways of taking power over a perpetually temporary Fed.

No-one reigns Supreme. At the best of times Fed & State are equally sovereign, at the worst of times the State officials essentially call the shots.

And again, that's a good thing.
40) Message boards : Politics : The Way Ahead too... (Message 1833807)
Posted 3 Dec 2016 by Profile Alex Storey
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Don't see the word "state" I see the word "people." I also see the word "Colonies."


So let me see if I understand this right:

You just managed to abolish the Electoral College just to get your snarky remark fix?

You also forgot the punchline:

these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States


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