http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1800393.stm

I just can't understand the depth of indoctrination you have undergone.

hey stupid, try 1992 and tell us how that foot in your mouth tastes

http://www.google.com/search?q=chavez+coup+attempt+1992&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.google:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1800393.stm

I just can't understand the depth of indoctrination you have undergone.

The Dark Bailout

A little mashup of the latest batman movie with the Bush tv appearance. Things must be bad when Bush actually addresses the nation he presides over.

I reiterate, for over 50 years these companies were financially sound, then along came Bill.

And now that the gov has taken them back out of the hands of the private sector, they should continue to be sound. The gov isn't as good at shannanigans at the private crooks they call CEOs. I'm talking Freddy & Fanny here only. All the other companies fouled up totally on their own.

i thought electoral frauds are how bush get to the white house

I can't engage an unarmed man in a battle of wits...it just ain't right.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/apr/21/usa.venezuela

No, we probably would not accept aid from countries who habitually mistreat their citizens.

I love the way you so casually toss stuff out there as fact.

Chavez has raised the standard of living for the poor
Chavez has nationalized much of the economy to pay for infrastructure, healthcare and education.

Chavez has NOT mistreated the citizens.

I can't be deported from a country I refuse to visit...

Good to see that you speak from a position of being 'in the know'... ;)

I do... guess la la land is treating me well. :) But all the money I have is going to become worthless if the government policies make the dollar decline.

The fact that I argue that we would be better off without all the financing does not mean that I don't realize that financing is part of our current system. It is too big a part in my opinion. We have no financial discipline. That eventually catches up to us, like in the current meltdown.

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Last time I checked, neither a woman nor a black has ever won, or even temporarily held, the White House.

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Might happen this time. The time may be right for it.

I think the citizens of the US of A are more ready for a black president than for a female president. That can come later, in an about 8 - 12 years time. (This based on the timeframe of the Black movements in the 60' to the Womens Lib movements in the 70') ...

Blacks only make up 12-14% of our total population...females, over 50% of our total population.

You will see a female President before a black

We will see. Still, I don't think this will differ from the historic development, where the Blacks got rights before the female population. A Black male might win before a female of any colors.

Now, even Palin is a woman, as Vice President she is without influence, she's ornament. Just as the other Vice Presidents have been ornaments. Have there been other Vice Presidents who ever came into office, and with this to power, besides Lyndon B. Johnson and Gerald Ford?

no credit history gives him no information.

It tells me that they managed their money well enough to not need extra credit... ;)

(But then again, I'm capable of thought outside the realm of documentation.)

The financial institution that we used was Beneficial (HSBC Group). Not a loan shark but I guess a similarity exists. One uses muscle (with perhaps the threat of liberally applied "force") and the other has the courts and creative language contract usage. Both take advantage of people forced to borrow money for whatever reason and in effect bend one over without any Vaseline.

I don't quite understand your "there's NO evidence that you repay your loans". If I had a loan/loans and failed to repay, then it should be reported to the credit bureaus and would be reflected on my credit reports and effect my credit worthiness. From what I've gathered, not all creditors report to credit agencies and this may be what you mean according to the above statement. At the time, I had no credit as I had no loans or credit cards up to that period of time.

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Last time I checked, neither a woman nor a black has ever won, or even temporarily held, the White House.

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Might happen this time. The time may be right for it.

I think the citizens of the US of A are more ready for a black president than for a female president. That can come later, in an about 8 - 12 years time. (This based on the timeframe of the Black movements in the 60' to the Womens Lib movements in the 70') ...

When the industry was moved from this country..

I think that one statement is THE reason we are in trouble. The good jobs for the masses are nearly gone so it is no wonder people have trouble paying on their debt. It is a gloomy picture for sure. I don't see a good future for most of us in the USA. Bailout or no bailout.

If no one was able to finance, perhaps houses would not cost so much. Finance increases the price. Basic economics. Plus most lenders will try to screw the borrower as much as possible. If you don't think that is true, I think you are the one living in la la land.

Why don't you try one of those Muslim countries, they won't care that you're an American, right?

I'm guessing they would welcome me and deport you... Can you guess why? ;)

(We're both american, right?)

No, we probably would not accept aid from countries who habitually mistreat their citizens.

I don't recall denouncing my american citizenship... yet... ;)

I think in a way you are right. Everyone (including me) failed to undertand the disaster before and after it for a few days.

But I have to feel that we could have done better. Maybe if fema was still it own agency and not a part of the mess we call homeland.

Chris.