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1) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1683222)
Posted 1 day ago by Profile ML1
When God ceated man she was having a bad hair day.

Well all men know that women look down their noses at men as "things" to be tolerated in "their" world. Let's face it we get told that enough all the time around here.

Perhaps we should have an against all men thread?

All a question of culture and upbringing and in our modern times, what the media feed people.

For just one example as seen in the UK Daily Mirror tabloid newspaper, the Andy Cap cartoon strip in there makes for some very dismal jaundiced stereotypes against the presumed husband and wife that are just too depressing to be funny. And yet... Does that mirror that readership?

Our present negatively sensationalist media certainly do not help in showing how people should be better treated or viewed, for both men and women. However, women do seem to get portrayed in a worse and more frivolous light. So much so that becomes the expectation?...

All in our only one world,
2) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1682123)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile ML1
We can also make much better use of the power we already use. Amazing this hasn't been made use of sooner:

Heating houses with 'nerd power'


The university does something a bit like that.

The physics building has the university's substation adjoining the end of it. This substation produces quite a lot of heat...

Interesting example thanks.

Errr... Is that called the High Energy Physics building? With added sparks? ;-)

More seriously...

I tried to get heat recycling included in a new server room build. Unfortunately, the quality of the builders was just not up to adding any 'extras' onto the job... All they could do was bolt on their standard repertoire of standard units. No thought possible.

And so all the server room heat gets expensively thrown out of cooling radiators and big fans at the back of the building :-(

Also unfortunately, the plant 'manager' is rather averse to any 'extra work' and so has no interest in adding a heat exchanger into the loop to pre-heat the building air. (He's uninterested enough about the CHP gas engine that generates some of the server room power...)

How do you get people enthused about something they simply do not care about?...

All on our only one planet,


The builders were incredible... Either that or were on a game to make extra work for themselves... Despite completely clear architect plans/drawings, they fitted the server room door right on to the end of a row of server racks. Even better, there was only a few cm of clearance even if the door could be opened! Myself and the architect then had a crazy discussion with the builder about the measurements and... Even thought the room dimensions were built wrong, we agreed they moved the door and changed it to open outwards, and that one wall was moved to at least give "beer-belly" room at the end of the racks to get past them. The architect had the biggest belly which set the clearance.

I've now got scrapes along the walls and racks from one of the builders crew who sported an enormous Guinness belly plus tool belt...

No wonder UK buildings are so badly inefficient and costly!

How do we fix that?...
3) Message boards : Politics : Linux hits the world (cont #2) (Message 1682097)
Posted 2 days ago by Profile ML1

"Peter Bright" wrote:
As companies continue to beat the Internet of Things drum, ...

NetUSB is developed by Taiwanese company KCodes. The purpose of the driver is to allow PCs and Macs to connect to USB devices over a network, ...

This router-side driver listens to connections on TCP port 20005, and it's this driver that contains a major security flaw. ... this overflow can be exploited to enable both denial of service (crashing the router), and remote code execution.

In its write up of the bug, the researchers described the issue as something of a throwback, writing "the '90s are calling and want their vulns back, stack buffer overflow." Simple stack buffer overflows in widely-deployed software are these days relatively unusual, as developers have become somewhat more conscientious of the danger they represent. But clearly not every developer has got the message yet.

... SEC estimates that millions of devices are affected.

Flawed code in the Linux kernel that runs in millions of routers, and a stack buffer overflow vulnerability no less.

Yep, quite a FUBAR.

Another good fun view is given by the bite of The Register:

'Millions' of routers open to absurdly outdated NetUSB hijack

Indeed a silly clanger that simply shouldn't be.

And indeed so... From the comments:

Because the company is too cool to use libusb…

I just had a look to see if this was a module they contributed to the Linux kernel or if it's something proprietary. So far, research hints it's [proprietary].

Digging further:

That code is not in the mainline Linux kernel and would be blasted into oblivion with creatively extremely negative verbosity long before ever reaching the eyes of Linus! No sane kernel person would put such a module directly into the kernel!! That is why we have user-space to limit any damage from any exploits that might make it through.

So, to me, that looks like cheap proprietary-ness secreting in some shoddiness for their own proprietary-rush shove-it-out-the-door quick products.

Such companies have the freedom to abuse Linux any way they like provided they abide to share any code as protected by the freedoms insisted upon by the GPL and other similar 'copy-left' licenses.

(Notably, a certain large company that is now surprisingly and rapidly moving into FLOSS needed over two years of work to get some of their proprietary code up to a reasonable enough standard to be accepted into the Linux mainline kernel. Even so, there were still some Big Boobs... ;-) )

IT is very much what we make it...
4) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1682086)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile ML1
Who is Steve Erwin?

There is the "Eco-warrior" ship named in his honour:

Sea Shepherd Renames Its Whale Defending Ship the Steve Irwin

And there is good summary on Wikipedia for the public view:

The Crocodile Hunter and related work

There are some very good positive impressive people to counterpoint some of the examples mentioned in this subject thread...

All in our only one world,
5) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1682081)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile ML1
We can also make much better use of the power we already use. Amazing this hasn't been made use of sooner:

Heating houses with 'nerd power'

All computers produce heat, but computer servers produce a lot of heat - so much that it usually costs a fortune to cool them down. So why isn't this heat used instead to keep homes or offices warm? Actually, "nerd power" is already being tried out...

... If Facebook had built their centre close to a city, they would have paid more for the land, but Karlung says that would have been more than compensated for by [heat] energy sales. "Nobody had the idea," he says, adding mischievously: "Every time you log into Facebook, you kill a polar bear."...

... Since getting his Nerdalize radiator, Jerry van Waardhuizen has become more aware of the issue of heat retention. "In my company we have some servers," he says. "We put on an air con above it - we give a lot of money to destroy the heat. That's crazy! That's crazy! Everybody is doing that."...

Crazy wasteful indeed, and largely needless, all just for the sake of a little thought and care for following a longer term plan...

All on our only one planet,
6) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1682077)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile ML1
Just for a bit of fun and give the Deniers some hope there write about the data being fiddled with to suit there narrative .

I went to check out the ice in the Antartic today and one of there pictures that show the South pole has changed , there is a massive Island on there map which is connected to the South pole by ice . Check it out , somebody has done something wrong or pushed the wrong buttons . We are in big trouble if the map is correct

just click on the picture and then on the arrow till you get to the South pole . wonder how long it will stay up before they relize they have goofed up .

Thanks for the link Glenn.

For their Antarctic map, rather a curious mapping goof-up!

Meanwhile, the projection used for their Arctic map looks a little strange to the unexpected eye. I guess we don't get to see polar projections very often in daily life!

And more interestingly looking at the charts...

The Arctic ice loss continues scarily quickly, including the natural variation but all consistently towards ever less ice on average. Meanwhile the Antarctic ice is slowly increasing as expected.

Note that only charting ice extent is rather misleading. I strongly suspect that the arctic ice volume is decreasing at far faster than linear. That is, what ice is left is getting ever thinner.

I strongly suspect that we will see a sudden ice collapse where the darkness of the exposed sea water warmed by the sun rapidly melts what was a cold reflective patchwork quilt of thin ice. The present assumed linear decline for sea ice extent will then suddenly terminate at some critical threshold.

Do we really want to gamble at what point that is?...

Canada, Russia, and their dirty fossil corruption, are all eagerly awaiting the collapse of the ice so that they can spread their pollution further, quickly, all before their operations and profits are killed by the damage they have done.

And our climate simulations show that should the ice disappear too quickly, and the ocean circulation is stopped too quickly, we then suffer ferocious heat at the equator, extreme cold at one or both poles, and then we get a run-away disaster to a snowball earth.

Ice reflects most of the sun's heat to stay cold whereas the ocean absorbs most of the sun's heat to become warmer. You cannot stop the laws of physics freezing the earth if we have no warm equatorial water circulating to stop the advance of ice from the super frigid poles...

Hopefully we will not go that far, but that is quite a gamble for industrially poisoning our atmosphere and weather patterns and ocean circulation.

A darker mood...

Greenland’s snow and ice was significantly darker in the summer of 2014 than in 2013, and similar to 2011. This darkening trend is apparent in the comparison of the past 15 years of average summer (June through August) reflectivity, shown in Figure 5b. The darker snow absorbs more sunlight, leading to earlier melt onset and overall more melting, even if air temperature conditions are similar to previous years (as was the case in northwestern Greenland in 2014). Darker snow is a result of increased soot, dust, and even microbes in the snow, and the general trend of warmer summer conditions. Snow also darkens over time as jagged snowflakes evolve into rounder snow crystals. The larger snow grain size allows more light to be absorbed by the snow.
Longer melting periods with darker snow and with higher temperatures leads to....

Larger snow grain appears in spring and called "sugar" by skiers.
For 50 years ago every people from the Nordic countries could ski.
Not anymore because lack of snow.
My brother in law from England commented our positioning of feet when walking.
Instead of putting them straight forward we put them in a V shape.

The poles are changing the most rapidly and also they suffer the greatest extremes of seasons. There is a lot of rapid change that can be tripped over for those areas depending on what melts/changes first and by how far... We are seeing the fringes of that already.

We really are insanely blithely pushing onwards on an industrial pollution experiment on a global scale with ever increasing consequences. Completely insane.

Have we learnt nothing from the old story of CFC pollution?

All on our only one planet,
7) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1681949)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile ML1
From my own recollection and personal opinion of those:

You seem to think that India, majority owner of the plant in Bophal wanted the leak.

No but from what i know of it , it was not bad employees it was management that would not keep the maintenance up to standard that caused that accident , it was cost cutting . I still can't believe that no wone has ever been jailed for that . 10,000 people affected something like 3,000 dead

Critical equipment failed and was left unrepaired for weeks.

The accident was just waiting to happen and was almost guaranteed to happen at some point. To my mind, completely criminally negligent, completely avoidable, and should never have happened.

The cost of the catastrophe is vastly greater than the cost of repairing the failed cooling unit central to the subsequent failures.

The area is still poisoning people and those responsible appear to have walked away unconcerned and still in profit.

If you want some other examples, Chernobyl,

Well that was bad employees but also a bad manegement structure and was not owed by a company but the state so not the same .

A "4am" accident of staff and management blithely blundering onwards despite not understanding what was happening. The procedure was being operated very late and by the wrong shift of people...

A classic descent into the scenario of the "disaster pit".

Three Mile Island

can't comment don't know enough about what happand there

Another 4am descent into the disaster pit:

Operator confusion and error with added confusion from a control valve that was stuck open by 0.007". The operators refused to believe their equipment!...


we know why it happened a Earth quake , but when they built it they did not know the land would drop some 2 mtres i think because of the quake , and yes i will agree that was more to do with knowing the future but those things are not the same as what Peebody has try'd to do

The earth stayed where it was. The plant survived the earth quake.

External grid power for the electric cooling pumps was lost and so the diesel back up generators powered up to keep things cool.

Then later, the tsunami overwhelmed the sea defenses and flooded the plant and killed all the backup generators. The plant stayed cool using backup BATTERIES to power the cooling pumps for long enough to get replacement generators that were available nearby. However, Japanese pride got in the way of calling for help...

The design and layout of the plant was already listed as dangerously vulnerable to a tsunami. Higher sea defenses had not been put in place for the sake of cost and aesthetics. The operators and government were gambling that no nearby earthquake typical of the area would occur whilst the plant was in operation!

Such is the cost of corrupt operation and hasty timelines compromising safety.

All on our only one planet,
8) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1681941)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile ML1
Three hours to shut down a BIG leaking oil pipe?...

Oil and pollution are far too cheap for the fiduciary duty and everyone else and the environment and the world be damned:

Workers race to clean California oil spill that spans nine miles

Two oil slicks, stretching nine miles, have formed off the coast of southern California after an onshore pipeline ruptured...

... "It smells like what they use to pave the roads," Fan Yang told the Associated Press news agency. "I'm sad for the birds, if they lose their habitat".

The spill happened on the same stretch of beach as a 1969 spill - one that is credited with starting the American environmental movement...

... The alarm was first raised on Tuesday when authorities received reports of a foul smell near Refugio State Beach around midday... The pipeline was shut off about three hours later.

The area has been closed to recreational and fishing activities...

All on our only one planet,
9) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681937)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile ML1
... On a lighter note, here is an amusing, totally unrelated article, about stock photos.

7 Bizarre Gender Stereotypes You Always See In Stock Photos

Unfortunately, it is such media stereotypes the teach the untaught masses 'how to behave'... "As shown on TV" and "as seen in the news paper": For too many that just must be religiously followed!... Unfortunately by far too many?...

Can we really raise the importance and effectiveness of education to push the Marketing shills out of their peddling abuse in the name of Marketing?

The world is what we make it for ourselves...
10) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681761)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile ML1
Here is a very thoughtful and first-hand topical comment to move towards what can be done to move forwards for one large area at least...

Viewpoint: Islam v feminism?

... So I watch with a mix of utter fascination and revulsion at the apparently continuous trickle of young women from Britain making the journey to Isis-controlled territory in Iraq and Syria. Why would intelligent, seemingly well integrated daughters with bright futures ahead of them, enjoying the liberties granted by modern democracy, want to travel back in time to the darkest of dark ages?...

... I have questioned and continue to question Allah and His words. My new-found relationship with God and His words has nourished and set me free. It highlighted the importance of taking responsibility for our religious learning. It also shows the power invested in those who read and interpret scriptures for and on our behalf...

What struck me was the extent to which religious tradition can be used to excuse violence or challenge it. I was enraged to hear that Islam was used in the most perverse ways to maintain women's vulnerability and persecution and enable the perpetrators, who are usually men, to coerce and control them...

... How different would things be if women owned and were part of the production of religious knowledge. Surely it's no coincidence that one of the first acts of social policy and justice in the Prophet's message was the banning of female infanticide so ubiquitously practised at birth by Arabs at the time.

Therein lies a lesson for us all.

Times and views change as shaped by our upbringing, religion, Marketing, and peer pressure?

Our world is what we make it,
11) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1681583)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile ML1
How dirty can dirty Fossil Fuels get?...

Try this for taste?

Peabody Energy exploited Ebola crisis for corporate gain, say health experts

... Public health experts involved in the response to the Ebola crisis have condemned what they described as a ludicrous, insulting and opportunistic attempt to exploit the disease for corporate gain by the world’s largest privately-held coal company.

As part of a PR offensive to rebrand coal as a “21st-century fuel” that can help solve global poverty, it has emerged that at the height of Ebola’s impact in Africa, Peabody Energy promoted its product as an answer to Africa’s devastating public health crisis...

Indeed outrageous!... Peddling destructive pollution on the back of death and despair?...

Only in the desperate depravity of Fossil Fuels!
12) Message boards : Politics : Computers & Technology 2 (Message 1681580)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile ML1
The internet and the social world through the filtered spectacle of Facebook internet?!...

Facebook criticised for creating 'two tier internet' with programme

... “Further, we are deeply concerned that has been misleadingly marketed as providing access to the full internet, when in fact it only provides access to a limited number of internet-connected services that are approved by Facebook and local ISPs,”...

So much for "net neutrality" and freedom to cyber surf...?!

To me, this looks to be the beginning of some very overt Scary stuff of internet censorship...

IT is what we allow it to be...
13) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681577)
Posted 4 days ago by Profile ML1
No idea why the men on this thread seem to be swarming around just one women!...

Meanwhile, we look to have some rather serious stereotyping to overcome to gain a richer cultural equality all round for the benefit of all:

Taylor Swift: 'Misogyny is ingrained in people from the time they are born

The pop star spoke about the importance of feminism, calling it the ‘most important movement’ people can embrace...

Cannes faces backlash after women reportedly barred from film screening for not wearing high heels

... The red carpet at the Cannes film festival is an elysium of old-fashioned glitz and glamour, but the festival faced controversy on Tuesday after it emerged that it takes the odd bout of tyrannical fashion policing to keep it that way.

A group of women ... were turned away from the gala screening of Todd Haynes’s Carol for allegedly not wearing high-heeled shoes...

Racist and anti-immigration views held by children revealed in schools study

Survey of 6,000 schoolchildren finds many have a wildly distorted view of the number of immigrants in Britain, negative attitudes about Muslims, and pessimism about their own future opportunities...

Times and views change as shaped by our upbringing, religion, Marketing, and peer pressure?

Our world is what we make it,
14) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1681435)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
What does it financially cost to destroy our planet?...

How much is the sea worth?

If the world's seas and oceans were a national economy, how much would they be worth?...

... is monetary value really the best way to measure nature's importance to the planet, and the environment that sustains us?

All a balance of corruption for the few at the expense of all of us all?...

All on our only one planet,
15) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1681431)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
Another example of what can be done by shifting the subsidies between different forms of power generation:

Japan's renewable revolution at risk

Could Japan survive without nuclear power? The short answer to that question is yes.

Japan has been surviving surprisingly well without nuclear power for the last four years... But there has been a cost. Prior to the Fukushima disaster nearly 30% of power came from nuclear. That has been replaced by burning lots more coal and gas...

But in the four years since the nuclear plants were shut down, Japan has also begun to witness something else - a renewable energy revolution. And the return to nuclear power may be putting that under threat.

Japan is a mountainous island nation with a sunny climate and lots of active volcanoes. In other words there are lots of potential ways to generate renewable energy - hydro, wind, tidal, solar and, the big one, geothermal...

There is a very large investment in the nuclear plant so there is some sense there to make use of what has already been invested...

There is also the very unfortunate parallel for the ridiculous exploration costs invested in searching and exploiting for yet more oil to burn when our environment cannot afford the pollution from burning what we are burning already! Yet Dirty Oil will exclaim that they just must recover their already invested investment...

There are better ways. So how to overcome the corruption of those clinging to profit from the old dirty ways and our planet be damned?...

All on our only one planet,
16) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1681430)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
It's something similar to this project:

Thanks for that.

That example does look overly expensive... Can't see how that version works better than using shaped netting.

Further to catching the water droplets suspended in mist and cloud, I'm still fond of Frank Herbert's description of his Arrakis water catchers that suggests using aerofoil aerodynamics to 'squeeze' additional moisture out of the passing air.

Then also, that all very much depends on location as to what is most useful.

More care and thought and less corruption needed!

All on our only one planet,
17) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1681284)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
A little something from another planet!

A few years after the idea as foretold by Frank Herbert for Arrakis?...

Trapping humidity out of fog in Chile

The dry, red earth could almost be mistaken for a Martian landscape. It is in fact the Atacama desert in Chile, one of the driest places on Earth...

... The largest expanse of fog catchers is located in Tojquia in Guatemala, where 60 fog catchers trap 4,000 litres of water a day.

Prof Pilar Cereceda of the University of Chile says she hopes that within a decade Chile will have enough fog catchers to supply the whole Atacama region.

"I dream of the day in which the fog catchers can compete with desalination plants, which [are] not environmentally friendly."

All on our own only one planet,
18) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects: Solutions #2 (Message 1681282)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
... Electric buses are an important tool in the efforts to make our cities more sustainable and green...

I've seen them in London. Also the new 'Boris' 'hybrid' buses look very neat.

However, recently I was startled by an electric bus on the road locally here...

There was the usual traffic queue at a junction, waiting behind a bus. Then without a noticeable sound and distinctly no roaring engine rumble and nothing of the usual black cloud of diesel smoke, it just glided off and away. The loudest noise was a slight robotic whine and the gentle rumble of the tyres! Spooky!!

Only then did I notice the word "electric" emblazoned on the advertising for the service.

In days of old with some very crude old tech, we've had electric milk floats do the rounds for years. Electric for buses has just got to be a good idea with our present day more modern tech. If only for the spooky no noise and no exhaust!

All on our only one planet,
19) Message boards : Politics : Climate Change, 'Greenhouse' effects and Politics: DENIAL (#4) (Message 1681281)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
...The Arctic is the fastest warming region of the planet.
If the polar ice retreats it could speed up the rise in global temperatures and change the world's weather patterns...[/b]

Meanwhile, we have:

Fossil fuels subsidised by $10m a minute, says IMF

‘Shocking’ revelation finds $5.3tn subsidy estimate for 2015 is greater than the total health spending of all the world’s governments...

... even the IMF’s vast subsidy figure was a significant underestimate: “A more complete estimate of the costs due to climate change would show the implicit subsidies for fossil fuels are much bigger even than this report suggests.”...

... “If we get the pricing of fossil fuels right, the argument for subsidies for renewable energy will disappear. Renewable energy would all of a sudden become a much more attractive option.”...

'Paddle in Seattle' Arctic oil drilling protest

Hundreds of people in kayaks and small boats have staged a protest in the north-western US port city of Seattle against oil drilling in the Arctic by the Shell energy giant...

... "Science is as clear as day when it comes to drilling in the Arctic - the only safe place for these dirty fuels is in the ground."...

Why India’s government is targeting Greenpeace

... Meanwhile India's CO2 emissions are forecast to rise rapidly.

According to the International Energy Agency, India is set to double its coal consumption by 2035 and become the world's largest coal importer by around 2020.

Almost half of the 1,200 new coal-fired power stations proposed around the world are in India according to the World Resources Institute.

That's why campaigning against the coal industry in India has been a priority for Greenpeace. The charity's campaigns have stopped coal mining in some of India's forest areas...

All a balance of corruption for the few at the expense of all of us all?...

All on our only one planet,
20) Message boards : Politics : Against ALL women - Infanticide, Slavery, Rape, Trafficking... (#3) (Message 1681268)
Posted 5 days ago by Profile ML1
Not wanting to distract from some good discussion...

A strong part of this story does appear to be how our culture and religion and Marketing shape how we view others, with women and minorities not getting the best of attention... Until more recently with some examples in more enlightened times?...

A few recent examples:

Mad Max: Fury Road's strong women won't surprise true genre fans

Bloggers in the US are angry that Charlize Theron’s one-armed driver takes centre stage in the new George Miller movie. But Imperator Furiosa has many formidable female ancestors in sci-fi and fantasy ...

Disney-Pixar's John Lasseter: 'It's very important for us to have female, ethnic characters'

... to have female, ethnic characters,” he said. “That’s grown in importance over time. We’re really paying attention to that”...

Republic of Ireland preparing to vote in same sex marriage referendum

... Brendan O'Carroll's character tells the audience that when she "was a young girl there was a big hoo-ha about mixed marriages, Catholics marrying Protestants and black people marrying white people.

"But, you know what, they still went and got married and the world didn't end. And we all grew up a little bit."...

GCHQ doughnut lit up in rainbow colours

The GCHQ "doughnut" building in Cheltenham is to be lit up in rainbow colours as a symbol of the intelligence agency's commitment to diversity. It will take place later, to mark International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia.

Computer pioneer and codebreaker Alan Turing kept his sexuality a secret while working at Bletchley Park, GCHQ's forerunner, during World War Two.

His nephew, Sir John Dermot Turing, said he was "delighted" by the gesture. A spokesman said the rainbow illumination demonstrated GCHQ's pride in its diverse workforce.

Until the early 1990s, being openly gay was a bar to employment there...

... And Jeremy Clarkson and "Top Gear" famously had a bit of a 'Mad Max' moment in some USA southern states that had a few of their natives take some rather direct (xeno?-)homophobic action to make some uncomfortable viewing for some very British jolliness...

And for an excellent local example highlighting good positive peer pressure triumphing over some very crass negative "who cares for the attention" Marketing:

South Wales 'Ride me' bus advert sparks online backlash

... bus company says it will withdraw an advertising campaign following an online backlash.

The New Adventure Travel advert depicts a semi-naked woman on the back of buses holding a billboard which reads: "Ride me all day...

Times and views change as shaped by our upbringing, religion, Marketing, and peer pressure?

All in our only one world,

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