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Message 2132953 - Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 22:37:29 UTC - in response to Message 2132944.  

... As counted by Hamas.

And a dead Hamas gunman becomes Palestinian and a "martyr" upon death...


Hamas must be creating one hell of a fight to create whatever hell they can...

What is the sense of that?

Who provides their endless supply of weapons??


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Message 2132959 - Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 23:42:43 UTC - in response to Message 2132953.  

... As counted by Hamas.

And a dead Hamas gunman becomes Palestinian and a "martyr" upon death...

As told by a Zionist, because to a Zionist there are no Palestinian's just Hamas terrorists.
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Message 2132961 - Posted: 23 Feb 2024, 1:08:47 UTC - in response to Message 2132959.  

... As counted by Hamas.

And a dead Hamas gunman becomes Palestinian and a "martyr" upon death...

As told by a Zionist, because to a Zionist there are no Palestinian's just Hamas terrorists.

And after over a decade of Hamas preaching all-consuming hatred to a closed group of children, we have their grapes of wrath that they call Palestine.


How do we rehabilitate them for love and peace?

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Message 2132965 - Posted: 23 Feb 2024, 3:06:48 UTC

And after over a decade of Hamas preaching all-consuming hatred to a closed group of children, we have their grapes of wrath that they call Palestine.
And what about the very many decades of Israeli oppression?

And all because western idiots tried to divide up something up that really wasn't their to divide up to start with. It's time to stop living in the past and get with the times and actually come to grips with the fact that Benji and his mob are no better than Hitler and his Nazis and may even be worse. The similarities between the 2 are very much there to see if you take your rose coloured glasses off.

It's well past time to stop pandering and supporting this greedy murdering far right bent mob of religious nutters just like what should've been done with Hitler and his greedy murdering mob at the start of their reign.

You're only letting history repeat itself and I'm sick of this stupid attitude that keeps on supporting total oppressors for far too many of my decades.

Stop standing up for wannabe oppressors, we stand up against others like PooTin, Xi, Kim and many others so why not the murderous Benji and his mob?

There will never be peace in that region while the pandering continues.
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Message 2132981 - Posted: 23 Feb 2024, 11:21:06 UTC - in response to Message 2132965.  
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... It's time to stop living in the past and get with the times and actually come to grips...

... letting history repeat itself and I'm sick of this stupid attitude...

... There will never be peace in that region while the pandering continues.

And I agree completely with that.

Which is where we need all the people there to firstly agree to live in peace.

That is, to live in peace rather than suffer jealousy and hatred and forever a very ugly existential war...


After so many years of the surrounding suffocating hatred from all sides across the whole of that region, and especially so for the long forgotten ongoing atrocities across the neighboring Syria:

  • How do we calm the place down to a healthy peace?

  • How do we insulate them from the meddlesome deadly stirrings from Iran and Russia and some of the nearby troublesome Arab lands?...



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Message 2133014 - Posted: 24 Feb 2024, 0:23:43 UTC

'Complicated'?

Hamas and Netanyahu are a curse on their peoples. Yet amid the horror, there is a sliver of hope


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Message 2133241 - Posted: 29 Feb 2024, 19:57:16 UTC

Benji's slaughtering continues as the Palestinian death toll passes 30,000.

Israel forces fire on Palestinians rushing for food aid.

Benji and his murderous thieving mob don't want peace, they just want to complete the genocide, but peace can be had without them.

Inside Israel's Oasis of Peace, Palestinian and Jewish families are showing the world how the two sides can co-exist.

But Benji and his Zionist morons will likely even break the peace there eventually.
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Message 2133250 - Posted: 1 Mar 2024, 0:20:35 UTC

Btw.: What's the death toll of the aftermath of 9/11 in Afghanistan (... or Iraq)? What was the death toll among Germans from East Prussia, Pomerania, Silesia, Czechia, ..., expelled from their native homelands since Jan 1945?

on peace in Gaza and responsibility:

(Is there) a placid population of peacenik types who are just desperately waiting for a two state solution to be put back on the table for the millionth time in the last 70 something years? It doesn't seem like that to me.
[...] there is some responsibility for the people in Gaza. If you elect a Hamas and they kill Fatah and then they remain in power for all of the years afterwards, I'm afraid there is some responsibility of the people in that situation. When the Germans had Adolf Hitler come to power and voted for him, we in Britain took the view that the German people were responsible in some way. [...]
on genozide:

The population of Gaza is the only population in the world where people routinely claim Israelis are committing genozide, but which has a population boom all of the time. [...]
People need to realize [...] the Nazis [...] also were a genocidal anti-semitic organization. But they tried to cover their crimes up. Hamas is actually proud of them. And the've said they will do them until the whole world is clear of Jews. So, I suggest we take that seriously. And I think that Israel is taking it seriously. I hope they continue to take it seriously, but I think the world should take it seriously. [...]
...an excerpt from an interview of Piers Morgan with Journalist Douglas Murray in British Talk TV, Nov 8, 2023.
source: (from 20m30s): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoWViuG5VYs

Btw.: The 9th of November is the fateful day we will remember in Germany forever. It was on this day in 1933 when the Nazis burnt down all but a few synagogues all over the country while the Germans remained silent witnesses. And it was on this day in 1989 when the Berlin Wall fell during the peaceful revolution in Eastern Germany. We learned our lesson from history. Hopefully Palestinians can do the same.
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Message 2133380 - Posted: 4 Mar 2024, 19:03:51 UTC

I filed my mail in ballot and voted as an uncomitted Democrat to send a message to Biden, in the general I will vote for Biden. IMO the only place Trump belongs is prison.
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Message 2133443 - Posted: 5 Mar 2024, 18:28:51 UTC

Is this the true and best possible way to lasting peace in the Middle East, and for all around our World?


... Shape Humanity’s Future - Yuval Noah Harari


Will such beautiful words for such realism be heard and win against the multitude of 'false' stories?...


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Message 2133727 - Posted: 10 Mar 2024, 22:17:05 UTC

This outrage could be stopped immediately if the U.S. stopped supplying ammo to lying Benji and his mob of murderous criminals, but Benji's lies are starting to fall apart at the seams on him, while this war is the only thing now keeping him in power in his own country and he won't give either up until the end.

Inside Israel’s war.

I can't remember if it was on France 24 or Al Jazeera this morning of a special soon to be released showing details of IDF, lies and war crimes plus actually footage of them firing upon those fleeing that music festival. Just the shorts for it are condemnation enough of indiscriminate slaughter of innocent people, even that of their own (if it moves eliminate it, seems to be the going motto).
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Message 2133732 - Posted: 10 Mar 2024, 23:53:37 UTC - in response to Message 2133727.  

Beware your sources...

And beware the game of propaganda...


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Message 2133737 - Posted: 11 Mar 2024, 5:47:16 UTC

Yes you must beware of Benji and his Israeli propaganda sources that are full of nothing, but lies. ;-)
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Message 2133805 - Posted: 12 Mar 2024, 20:29:21 UTC

It's finally on its way, but it's still only a drop in the ocean to what is needed.

First ship with humanitarian aid for Gaza departs Cyprus amid war.

A ship taking almost 200 tonnes of food to Gaza left a port in Cyprus early on Tuesday in a pilot project to open a new sea route for aid to a population on the brink of famine.

The charity ship Open Arms was seen sailing out of Larnaca port in Cyprus, towing a barge containing flour, rice and protein.

The journey to Gaza takes about 15 hours but a heavy tow barge could make the trip considerably longer, possibly up to two days.

Cyprus is just over 322 kilometres north-west of Gaza.

The mission, mostly funded by the United Arab Emirates, is being organised by US based charity World Central Kitchen (WCK), while Spanish charity Proactiva Open Arms is supplying the ship.

"Our goal is to establish a maritime highway of boats and barges stocked with millions of meals continuously headed towards Gaza," WCK founder Jose Andres and chief executive officer Erin Gore said in a statement.....
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Message 2133974 - Posted: 16 Mar 2024, 23:06:04 UTC
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Isrrial has a lomg history of attacking the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
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Message 2133978 - Posted: 17 Mar 2024, 3:25:24 UTC - in response to Message 2133974.  

Isrrial has a lomg history of attacking the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
This post is misleading. Intentional? The Liberty incident took place in an active war zone in the middle of the Six-Day War. The Liberty was only 25nm from the coast of Sinai. At that time, Egyptian warships shelled Israeli-occupied Sinai. Israel responded to this attack, mistaking the Liberty for an Egyptian warship. Mistakes like this happen in every war. Contrary to Israeli warnings, the Liberty was closer than 100nm from the coastline.

The shooting down of Iran Air Flight 655 on July 3, 1988 by the USS Vincennes (CG-49) occurred in a similar situation. The U.S. warship was in a skirmish with Iranian gunboats in the Persian Gulf and falsely identified the civilian Airbus as an Iranian fighter. The Airbus A300 was shot down, killing 290 civilians.

Can one conclude from this the U.S. has a long history of attacking Iran? I would say: No, one cannot.
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Message 2133980 - Posted: 17 Mar 2024, 5:08:45 UTC - in response to Message 2133978.  

Isrrial has a lomg history of attacking the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
This post is misleading. Intentional?
The Israeli attack certainly was. There is no question they intended to fire and they hit what they aimed at.

IIRC and it has been a lot of years, reports from then were that the Israeli aircraft approached close enough they had to have seen the US flag flying from the ship.

No one is saying what the orders were, but I suspect they were of the kind, it is moves kill it. Essentially the same orders that Benji has given the IDF today as to Gaza.

I also think that the political higher ups just issued a bungled order and assumed the IDF knew enough without being explicitly told don't shoot if it is our allay. One has to be very explicit in giving orders to warriors.
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Message 2133982 - Posted: 17 Mar 2024, 10:12:21 UTC - in response to Message 2133241.  
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Benji's slaughtering continues as the Palestinian death toll passes 30,000.

That total of 30,000 is almost certainly fabricated.
Hamas say over 6,000 of its men have dies and over 70% of the total are women and children, this would mean there are no civilian men casualties.
And the daily totals are too similar to be true, they report similar numbers each day, no matter what happened.

Looks like you have fallen for the propaganda again.

If you can find it, read "What the media gets wrong about Israel", Matti Friedman ex AP reporter. It's from 2014, so long before this latest Hamas attack.
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Message 2133987 - Posted: 17 Mar 2024, 16:29:56 UTC

I happened to be browsing through the TV listings this lunchtime, and noticed that Al-Jazeera (available free-to-air in the UK) had an upcoming programme on the Balfour Declaration of 1917. I didn't watch it, but it piqued my interest, so I looked it up.

In the interest of balance, I'd better give two independent sources:

It's clear from both that Britain's finger drawing lines in the sand had a significant influence on the area, 30 years before the UN declarations after the Second World War.

And it's also clear that on the Arab side of that line in the sand, it rankles to this day.

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Message 2133989 - Posted: 17 Mar 2024, 16:52:54 UTC - in response to Message 2133982.  

Hamas say over 6,000 of its men have dies and over 70% of the total are women and children, this would mean there are no civilian men casualties.
And this is in line with Benji's thinking that there are no male civilians in Gaza and all are Hamas.
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