The Donald Trump thread part VI - aka "Keep it clean"

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Message 2132213 - Posted: 6 Feb 2024, 21:28:54 UTC - in response to Message 2132207.  

Crooked Donny is screwed.

The former President had been relying on a legal point to protect him from a crucial upcoming court case – but not any more.

Further to what's reported there, it was a very strong unanimous decision, meaning Trump probably will not get the decision reversed if he appeals to the entire court. And it has been framed such that he can only get the trial scheduled for the 7th March delayed if he appeals to the Supreme Court, cutting out his chances of getting the trial delayed until after the election.
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Message 2132247 - Posted: 7 Feb 2024, 11:46:44 UTC - in response to Message 2132213.  

Indeed so...

And subsequently...

It's game over for Trump:

Appeals court uses SURPRISE TACTIC to prevent further Trump delay


... And the rest of the story to unfold is a Greek Tragedy.

The question is only one of... How long?


Only in the USA?...
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Message 2132269 - Posted: 7 Feb 2024, 20:14:47 UTC

It also seems that Donny's even screwed himself. ROFLMFAO!!!

Two New York laws are about to smack Trump in the face, no matter if he plans to appeal two massive civil judgments that could wipe out all the cash in his pocket.

.....During a deposition with the New York Attorney General in April 2023, Trump boasted that he had $400 million in cash, bragging about how it’s “a lot for a developer.” But even if that were true, it likely won’t be enough to simultaneously cover last month’s $83 million verdict at his rape defamation trial—which he needs to immediately set aside to appeal that case—and the $370 million demanded by the AG for his incessant lying to banks.

While the judge deciding the bank fraud case hasn’t come up with a final figure that Trump owes, every indication is that it will be into the hundreds of millions. A message from the judge on Tuesday actually suggested it could be even more than what the New York AG is seeking.

Trump’s sudden cash demands are exacerbated by a quirk in New York law. Not only would the judgment get automatically inflated by an unusually high interest rate of 9 percent, but Trump would need to give the court the enlarged total—plus an extra 10 to 20 percent—in order to appeal and have another day in court. And it would all be due by mid-March.......

......If Trump opts to take the more common route, he’ll have to find a willing insurance company that’s licensed to handle these kinds of legal transactions in New York—and rely on one of the few that’s able to handle this kind of gargantuan sum.

That firm wouldn’t hand over the cash. Instead, it would merely present the court with an official document that says it’s good for the money. Trump, on the other hand, would have to pay the surety company a premium of maybe 1 percent—a tiny share that under present circumstances might translate into a whopping $5 million.

However, the bigger problem comes when Trump has to prove that he’s trustworthy—in the midst of a trial that proved he’s anything but......
Show us your $'s Donny.
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Message 2132273 - Posted: 7 Feb 2024, 22:00:06 UTC - in response to Message 2132269.  

Corrected:
two massive civil judgments that could wipe out all the cash in his blind followers pocket.


- He's already run out of his own cash so now has to rely on the charity of fools.
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Message 2132286 - Posted: 8 Feb 2024, 7:08:52 UTC - in response to Message 2132273.  

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two massive civil judgments that could wipe out all the cash in his blind followers pocket.


- He's already run out of his own cash so now has to rely on the charity of fools.

The question is did he ever have any cash. Remember the man gives out Mickey Dee's to sports teams he invites to the Capitol.
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Message 2132425 - Posted: 11 Feb 2024, 0:41:05 UTC

Good onya Nikki.

Haley fires back at Trump for asking where her husband is.

During a rally in South Carolina on Saturday, Donald Trump — who is rarely joined by his wife Melania for campaign events — made a low blow at his opponent Nikki Haley's personal life, and she didn't take long to respond.

Speaking to potential voters, Trump went into a rant about Haley and her husband Michael, saying, “Where’s her husband? Oh, he’s away. What happened to her husband? Where is he? He’s gone. He knew.” And what wasn't mentioned in discourse on X (formerly Twitter) shortly after his comments were made, Haley was happy to fill in herself.

"Michael is deployed serving our country, something you know nothing about," she wrote in a post to X, along with a clip of Trump's tirade. "Someone who continually disrespects the sacrifices of military families has no business being commander in chief.".......
Meanwhile another stooge of Donny's is having his own problems as his fall guy decides to roll.

Gaetz sex trafficking inquiry moves forward with witness cooperation.

In early 2023, a federal investigation looking into claims that Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla. paid or illegally trafficked a 17-year-old girl for sexual purposes while he was serving in Congress seemed to have concluded, with the DOJ opting against any charges. But, with the cooperation of a key witness, the case is picking up again.

According to a report from The New York Times on Friday, Gaetz’s former friend and political ally Joel Greenberg — who previously told federal investigators that he had witnessed Gaetz having sex with the girl — has provided documents to the House Ethics Committee regarding the claims.

Greenberg is currently serving an 11-year prison sentence, having pleaded guilty in May 2021 to charges including sex trafficking, and is aiding in the inquiry after receiving a request from the committee. If Gaetz is found guilty of similar crimes of his own, he faces a minimum of 10 years in prison.....
He must not like being in the slammer.
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Message 2132662 - Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 21:00:42 UTC

Ouch, but it could've been worse for delusional Donny.

Judge fines Trump more than $350M, bars him from running businesses in N.Y. for three years.

The judge who presided over a civil business fraud trial against Donald Trump on Friday ordered the former president, his sons, business associates and company to pay over $350 million in damages and temporarily limited their ability to do business in New York.

Judge Arthur Engoron ordered the former president and the Trump Organization to pay over $354 million in damages, and bars Trump "from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation or other legal entity in New York for a period of three years."

He also continued "the appointment of an Independent Monitor" and ordered "the installation of an Independent Director of Compliance" for the company.

During the trial, Trump and executives at his company, including his sons Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump, attempted to blame exaggerated financial statements that were the heart of the AG's case on the accountants who compiled them. Engoron disagreed.

"There is overwhelming evidence from both interested and non-interested witnesses, corroborated by documentary evidence, that the buck for being truthful in the supporting data valuations stopped with the Trump Organization, not the accountants," he wrote.

The judge also cited the lack of remorse by Trump and his executives after the fraud was discovered as showing the need for a monitor.

"Their complete lack of contrition and remorse borders on pathological. They are accused only of inflating asset values to make more money. The documents prove this over and over again. This is a venial sin, not a mortal sin. Defendants did not commit murder or arson. They did not rob a bank at gunpoint. Donald Trump is not Bernard Madoff. Yet, defendants are incapable of admitting the error of their ways," Engoron wrote.....
Donny should think himself very lucky.
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Message 2132664 - Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 21:49:27 UTC - in response to Message 2132662.  
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Ouch, but it could've been worse for delusional Donny.

Judge fines Trump more than $350M, bars him from running businesses in N.Y. for three years.

rob smith wrote:
He's already run out of his own cash so now has to rely on the charity of fools.
Cash and charity are finite. $350M seems a big step towards exhausting that, one might think. Unless the continued determination of his followers proves this assumption wrong.
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Message 2132666 - Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 22:36:35 UTC

And if he wants to appeal that then he's doing to have to front up at least $400+M.

ROFLMFOA!!!!!
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Message 2132671 - Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 2:12:38 UTC - in response to Message 2132666.  

And if he wants to appeal that then he's doing to have to front up at least $400+M.

ROFLMFOA!!!!!

Unfortunately not. But he has to find an insurance company willing to sign a bond for that.
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Message 2132672 - Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 2:24:05 UTC - in response to Message 2132671.  

And if he wants to appeal that then he's doing to have to front up at least $400+M.

ROFLMFOA!!!!!
Unfortunately not. But he has to find an insurance company willing to sign a bond for that.
Can you name 1 stupid enough too take him on?
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Message 2132680 - Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 7:59:36 UTC - in response to Message 2132672.  

And if he wants to appeal that then he's doing to have to front up at least $400+M.

ROFLMFOA!!!!!
Unfortunately not. But he has to find an insurance company willing to sign a bond for that.
Can you name 1 stupid enough too take him on?

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Message 2132690 - Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 10:55:49 UTC - in response to Message 2132680.  

And if he wants to appeal that then he's doing to have to front up at least $400+M.

ROFLMFOA!!!!!
Unfortunately not. But he has to find an insurance company willing to sign a bond for that.
Can you name 1 stupid enough too take him on?

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But that would cost him 10% of the total cost, which he won't get back, plus the interest which is expected to be >$100 million.
So he's looking at a total bill of ~$600 million, which is about the same as the amount he has in cash according to Forbes.
So Trump has to be looking at selling an asset or three, and that's before the lawyers fee's land on his desk.
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Message 2132692 - Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 12:15:39 UTC - in response to Message 2132690.  

Lloyds in common with most insurers don't necessarily charge a fixed proportion of the possible lost (to them), but rather assess the possibility of having to pay out and charge according to the risk. It may be that they would see the risk of the appealing being lost, and thus they would be expected to payout the whole sum insured, plus their costs. Thus the premium may actually end up being more than the sum insured.
"Ah Mr.T we've assessed that the probability of you loosing your appeal is 100%, so your premium is 500,000,000usd, with a withhold of 100,000,000usd". Which translates as "We don't want your business, but win or loose we'll have your money".
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Message 2132699 - Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 17:49:46 UTC

Lloyds may be willing to hold title to some of his properties in the event he loses. That can be extra sweet for them as in the perhaps decade the case moves up the chain of courts to SCOTUS those properties will appreciate. Rump would likely want to be able to exchange cash as he begs it from fools to get some or all of those titles back in the same time period.
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Message 2132762 - Posted: 19 Feb 2024, 8:24:25 UTC - in response to Message 2132699.  
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Lloyds may be willing to hold title to some of his properties in the event he loses. That can be extra sweet for them as in the perhaps decade the case moves up the chain of courts to SCOTUS those properties will appreciate. Rump would likely want to be able to exchange cash as he begs it from fools to get some or all of those titles back in the same time period.
This 'time period' is Trump's next term in the Oval Office, if I understand that correctly? Well, U.S. presidential terms are limited to two consecutive terms. So Trump is going to start again at the first one, with an eight-year outlook?

[EDIT to add:] This man appears to be in excellent health, although he is not known to eat healthy or take time to exercise. I wouldn't see driving a golf cart as a fitness exercise.
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Message 2132763 - Posted: 19 Feb 2024, 9:53:58 UTC - in response to Message 2132762.  

... with an eight-year outlook?
I don't think the word 'consecutive' should be in there.

Two-Term Limit on Presidency (22nd amendment)

is absolute - the only differences being that it wasn't retrospective, and someone who stepped up to fill a casual vacancy can ask for the full two terms afterwards. Neither applies to Trump.
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Message 2132888 - Posted: 21 Feb 2024, 20:58:29 UTC

Donny is just bleeding dollars in more ways than 1 and a lot of it didn't even come out of his pockets.

Trump Campaign Spent More Than It Raised, While PAC Helped on Legal Fees.

So he needs more fools to stump up cash.

Meanwhile is Donny's pet judge driving herself down the road to ruin like many of his lawyers have?

"Unreasonable hurdles": Legal experts say Jack Smith could seek Judge Cannon's removal.

And can he pay up or?

Trump Fraud Verdict: NY AG Letitia James Says She’ll Seize Ex-President’s Buildings If He Can’t Pay Up.
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Message 2132913 - Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 13:06:47 UTC

Oh delusional Donny is so stupid.

Trump Hands Jack Smith a Potential Gift.

And he certainly hasn't learnt how to control that vile hated filled mouth of his.

Trump Mocked After Promising 'Very Powerful Crime' in Washington, D.C..

Sounds like he's going to insight some more riots there, but he certainly does need your donations as I'm sure that he's worked by now that no company is willing to put up a bond for him.

Trump Accused of Not Having the Cash To Pay $400M Bond.

Not mention that.

Trump May Not Be Allowed To Sell Property To Pay For Lawsuits.

Well he'll have no power to try and over inflate their prices anyway as he'll have no control over those sales whatsoever if they do happen.

And we all know how much Donny and Sucker love PooTin and how willing those moronic MAGA RINO's puppets are of following their leads.

Jim Jordan Is in Deep Trouble.

James Comer and Tucker Carlson aren't fooled by Russian lies — they're complicit.

Anyhow I'm sure that there'll be more coming out from the crooked world of Donny's.
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Message 2132922 - Posted: 22 Feb 2024, 15:26:41 UTC - in response to Message 2132913.  

Trump May Not Be Allowed To Sell Property To Pay For Lawsuits.

Well he'll have no power to try and over inflate their prices anyway as he'll have no control over those sales whatsoever if they do happen.
So it's just a big poker game? At some point the others will want to see your cards. Showdown... This shouldn't worry an experienced gambler. So far he has always had the better hand. Not anymore? That's fate then.
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