we really need an undergrad to write the AP algo for all the Green Bank data. There'd be an AP frenzy for months.

I know Eric said it's something they're willing to do, but I think it was Richard that said it would require a student of some level to write the code for it.

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Its been so long since I saw an AP unit... there are no results of past units either in my tasks history on any of my devices.

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Life's short; make fun of it.

Now down to 200 left in the system, waiting to be re-sent.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I wouldn't mind even getting just one resend on my dumpster-rescued machine. I want to see if I did my app_info.xml correctly. It's been doing MB just fine, but it hasn't gotten a single AP in the couple of weeks it's been running, so i won't know for sure if it was done right until i get one.

Hopefully soon.

Fingers crossed.

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Linux laptop:
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we really need an undergrad to write the AP algo for all the Green Bank data. There'd be an AP frenzy for months.

I know Eric said it's something they're willing to do, but I think it was Richard that said it would require a student of some level to write the code for it.

If that's true, maybe we should setup a crowd-funding campaign to offer a bounty / reward to help make that happen sooner rather than later? : )

Much better would be to sponsor a GOOD programmer to do the job, and thus take some of the load off Eric and the rest.

Of course this assumes that the data from the GBT is actually suitable for analysis using the AstroPulse techniques.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Wait.....

What's that....

ap_29ap19aa_B0_P1_00368_20190429_11071.wu

Woo Hoo..... an AP!!!

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Congrats Zalster ! There are 181 possible resends still out in the field, so the odds aren't good.

I checked the Aricebo calendar, and nothing on the schedule for us until the 24th. I do think they recorded some data on May 30 and 31st (date might be off one when converted to GMT), but I have no idea when we will be given that data, if it is even good.

Any guesses on what day we hit 0 out in the field??

If that's true, maybe we should setup a crowd-funding campaign to offer a bounty / reward to help make that happen sooner rather than later? : )

Much better would be to sponsor a GOOD programmer to do the job, and thus take some of the load off Eric and the rest.

Of course this assumes that the data from the GBT is actually suitable for analysis using the AstroPulse techniques.

I wouldn't mind at all chipping-in to pay for someone (or a small team) to do such a thing.

I believe the reason for the need of an undergrad or a student though is because it's a lot more complex and involved than the optimized apps that are crowdsourced on our end. The optimized apps just deal with the data that comes from the servers in a much more efficient manner, whereas what is needed to make APs out of the Green Bank data is someone is going to have to have access to the database, make the splitters for it, and figure out how to make everything communicate through all the backend server-side processes.

That almost certainly means it can't be outsourced.. it will almost certainly have to be done in-house. Which then complicates the problem because there may not be a budget from Berkeley or the SSL dept to be able to pay someone.. which means if someone were to do it, they'd have to effectively do it for free like an intern.....which I think is how we got AP in the first place.

But we've managed to crowdfund either money, or server components, or whole servers before, so.. one would think there would be a way to crowdfund and donate earmarked budget for someone to do this programming and coding on the server-side.




Or maybe i'm just completely wrong in all of this, but this is my understanding of the complexities of the situation. Feel free to enlighten me if i'm wrong.

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I wouldn't mind at all chipping-in to pay for someone (or a small team) to do such a thing.

Me too! I'd be happy to kick down a bit to help make this happen, assuming it's something that can be accomplished (making APs out of the Green Bank data, that is).

[The complexity of it] almost certainly means it can't be outsourced.. it will almost certainly have to be done in-house. Which then complicates the problem because there may not be a budget from Berkeley or the SSL dept to be able to pay someone.. which means if someone were to do it, they'd have to effectively do it for free like an intern.....which I think is how we got AP in the first place.

But we've managed to crowdfund either money, or server components, or whole servers before, so.. one would think there would be a way to crowdfund and donate earmarked budget for someone to do this programming and coding on the server-side.

Yeah, that makes sense ... helping them to pay someone in-house might make it all a little more feasible.
I wonder who would know the situation, and how to channel donations into an earmarked fund for such a special project?

Our present MB v8 application is able to process both Arecibo and GBT data.

Developing a new application for AP GBT data would be a case of developing the splitter & any pre-processing software necessary to produce the WUs, and hopefully only (relatively) minor changes to the present AP application in order to read the header information (Arecibo v GBT data), and process accordingly.

It would probably be easier to develop new splitters & application, based on the existing ones but without any regards to backwards compatibility, but given there will still be Arecibo data in the future (present drought excepted) it would be nice to have just the one application & not yet still another one added to the already rather large list.

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Grant
Darwin NT

I wonder who would know the situation, and how to channel donations into an earmarked fund for such a special project?

The person who really knows the situation is Eric Korpela, the project "boss".
In the past when something like a new server has been a priority the project has set up a specification, costed it, and set up a specific funding solution. Otherwise, organizations like the GPUUG have a means of collecting money and forwarding it to the project in a "US tax efficient manner" (without taking a slice for themselves)..

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Okay, I just sent out a quick message and invited Eric to comment on this thread. : )

Okay, I just sent out a quick message and invited Eric to comment on this thread. : )

Fantastic thanks Allen. I will look forward to reading what Eric has to say

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Well yeah, hopefully Eric is able to respond ... I'm sure project leaders get a flood of messages. Fingers crossed! : )

Less than 100 WUs left in the system.

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Grant
Darwin NT

Less than 100 WUs left in the system.

Results returned and awaiting validation 236

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Less than 100 WUs left in the system.

Results returned and awaiting validation 236

In progress, 92.
Not a lot less, but still less than 100.

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Grant
Darwin NT

We got so close to clearing them out, then AP started flowing again!

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Grant
Darwin NT

We got so close to clearing them out, then AP started flowing again!

Aw. You got my hopes up.. I was hoping I'd have at least snagged ONE.. but no. Checked the cache, not a single one.

I even have it set for checking for AP, but allowing other work if there isn't any, so.. there wasn't any available during all of the scheduler requests that were made.

Maybe next time.

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