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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
No again ... On Monday night, the British Parliament once again voted on its own Brexit proposals. Four suggestions were on the table - but once again the Members voted against everything. The proposal closest to a yes was the proposal for a customs union with the EU - the EFTA / EEA motion the so-called "Common Market 2.0" option. It lost with only three votes - 273 against 276. The EU chief negotiator in the Brexit issue, Michel Barnier, says today that the EU was ready to accept Britain staying in the EU’s customs union or a relationship akin to the one the EU has with Norway, aka "Norway plus". |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
No, no, no, no... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAjU1M0cRtU |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30759 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
he proposal closest to a yes was the proposal for a customs union with the EU - the EFTA / EEA motion the so-called "Common Market 2.0" option. It lost with only three votes - 273 against 276. Er, thought they needed 320 ayes, to pass .... |
Mark Stevenson Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 1736 Credit: 174,899,165 RAC: 91 |
Think you will find a good deal of the British public have had enough of all this shite and it was obvious it would be a complete fuc# up rite from the start . Life is what you make of it :-) When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-) |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
Well it depends on abstentions and absences on the day.he proposal closest to a yes was the proposal for a customs union with the EU - the EFTA / EEA motion the so-called "Common Market 2.0" option. It lost with only three votes - 273 against 276.Er, thought they needed 320 ayes, to pass .... Around 320 ayes are needed to guarantee a majority as there are a handful of non-voting members of the house such as the speaker and others who don't take up their seats. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30759 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Well it depends on abstentions and absences on the day.he proposal closest to a yes was the proposal for a customs union with the EU - the EFTA / EEA motion the so-called "Common Market 2.0" option. It lost with only three votes - 273 against 276.Er, thought they needed 320 ayes, to pass .... https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/2019/how-the-world-votes-2019/index.html Yes it does depend on how the missing votes are or are not counted. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14656 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
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moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
AFAIK when the House of Commons have voted about Brexit it has been a simple majority vote.Well it depends on abstentions and absences on the day. Meaning that a vote proposal must be supported by more than half of the total number of votes cast, no matter how many are voting. Not an absolute majority vote that means that a vote proposal must be supported by more than half of the total number of possible votes. Rather surprising that so many MPs decided not to vote in the house ... Only 549 of about 640 elegible voters voted. A turnout of 86%... That's about the same turnout that we the Swedish people have in general elections! |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30759 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Rather surprising that so many MPs decided not to vote in the house ... Tells the world how important Brexit actually is. Not at all! |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14656 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
It was a deliberate policy decision. That was the vote where the 'backbenchers' - the ordinary members of parliament, not holders of higher office - took over the rulebook to show they could do it better than their masters and mistresses.Rather surprising that so many MPs decided not to vote in the house ...Tells the world how important Brexit actually is. Not at all! On the Government side, the payroll vote - all those holders of higher office - were ordered to abstain, presumably to deliberately show that the plebs were useless. |
moomin Send message Joined: 21 Oct 17 Posts: 6204 Credit: 38,420 RAC: 0 |
I read a comment somewhere that Britain's government today has not been so bad since before Cromwell's government. Oh here it is:) Brexit: 'Worst Parliament since Oliver Cromwell' - BBC Newsnight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGkpKeH_BeQ |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24884 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Oh no, not thisWow didn't hear anything on the local news about that. Hope they catch the buggers. Disgraceful |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24884 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
ROFLMAO |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24884 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Back in the Commons, Tory MP Bob Seely says he is opposing the Article 50 bill which he describes as the "water torture of endless delay". Jeremy Corbyn has described his meeting with Theresa May as "useful but inconclusive". Yvette Cooper finishes her speech, rejecting claims the bill is being rushed through. Just another day in cloud cuckoo land. The second reading of Yvette Cooper's bill to prevent a no-deal Brexit is voted through by 315 to 310. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24884 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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cRunchy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 3555 Credit: 1,920,030 RAC: 3 |
Went to my local Sainsburies this morning. At the checkout I had the American woman that serves... Anyway various people were chatting to her (she is a chatty being) and in the process I asked her what she thought about 'Brexit' (as an American.) She paused with a seriousness and told me she couldn't talk about that. I asked her why and she said the police had advised (on the radio) people not to talk about it in case it incited violence. I looked at her and said the police have no legal right to tell you what to say or make you feel unable to express your thoughts.. She said 'I know but'.. (It is also likely that the company she works for has also impressed this moratorium on their workers.) I'm not going to push a front line worker but I would have appreciated her insight as an American living and working in the UK. Beyond the 'big word' politics there will be some local social ramifications not yet seen to Brexit. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20525 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Some of the pubs in my locality have similarly banned discussing Brexit so as to avoid 'overenthusiastic' arguments. Unfortunately, Brexit and some romantic dream of a fairytail 'sovereignty', has become a religion that cannot be argued against... Real world politics are ignored... All in our only one world... Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30759 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Hear Brexit is so bad you've sprung a leak and are taking on water ;-) |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14656 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Hear Brexit is so bad you've sprung a leak and are taking on water ;-)Yup, no more votes until Tuesday at least. I wonder if the EU will accept that as a valid reason for extending. Meanwhile, the political form of leaking continues unabated... |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
Just a bit. Spookily... it was a prediction back in November, 2016: Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson has said the UK will make a "Titanic success" of Brexit....and widely believed to be the only time he told the truth. I can't verify that though ;) |
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