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Message 2125072 - Posted: 5 Sep 2023, 7:30:13 UTC

Will the real PooTin please step forward, if you can that is.

Telltale clues sleuths believe prove Putin is dead and using a body double.

He may not be dead, but I reckon that he doesn't want others to see how crook he really is.
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Message 2125078 - Posted: 5 Sep 2023, 9:24:54 UTC - in response to Message 2125072.  

I wonder who little Kim will be meeting in Vladivostok.
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Message 2125085 - Posted: 5 Sep 2023, 12:41:28 UTC - in response to Message 2125078.  
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I wonder who little Kim will be meeting in Vladivostok.
Kim as well as Erdogan or Xi met Putin many times before. Don't they notice immediately they are meeting someone else? Can't they tell from his voice, expressions, gestures, or the way he argues that he clearly is not Putin? Or do they know and they play the game for as long as it lasts? Good deals? Some more natural gas for Erdogan, new rocket tech for Kim...

The real Putin would never meet Kim in Vladivostok (a remote outpost without Russia's imperial glamour). He would have let him travel all the ultra-long way by train to Moscow. Now Putin is supposed to fly to Vladivostok to meet him? Never! So, he is going to travel there for many days by train? No!
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Message 2125369 - Posted: 12 Sep 2023, 9:20:29 UTC

Well PooTin really fell blindly into a financial trap there.

Russia's Pivot Away From US Dollar Is Not Going According to Plan.

And his problems don't stop there either.

PooTin's Top Spy Blames Russia's Brain Drain on 'Cheating' West.
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Message 2125373 - Posted: 12 Sep 2023, 10:57:53 UTC - in response to Message 2125369.  
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Russia really has lost most of its brains:

... Russia is reportedly experiencing a pressing brain drain as a result of its increasing isolation from Western-dominated technological, financial and academic spheres. Moscow's decision to mobilize hundreds of thousands of people to fight in Ukraine has also prompted many to flee the country.

RBC reported in April that the number of workers in Russia under the age of 35 fell by 1.33 million people between December 2021 and December 2022. This is comparable to the impact of the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic in 2020, which saw 1.34 million young Russians leave the job market...


Has Tsar Pootin bombed his country back to before the Stone Age into the land of depressed drunken farmers and tree choppers?

... Except they are even running out of forest to chop down for cheap funds from China...


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Message 2125374 - Posted: 12 Sep 2023, 11:04:25 UTC - in response to Message 2125369.  
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Here's an interesting view:

... Peskov said that dialogue with Western rivals "is now pointless because there is no one there who is currently prepared to absorb any kind of argument."...

Is there in there a hint of the slow realization that we are no longer receptive to waste our time with their continual lies?

And note that we in the West are seen as "Rivals"...

All a question of viewpoint and mutual beneficial cooperation, or not?


When do you know a Russian spokesperson is lying?

Answer: They have opened their mouth to speak.

Sadly, all too deadly true.


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Message 2126368 - Posted: 2 Oct 2023, 15:18:00 UTC
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I refer to this article posted by Sirius B in the "Ukraine crisis" thread:
Another headache for Meester PooTin
In the mid 1930s Stalin purged the USSR's Red Army of any remnants of the Tsarist aristocracy or bourgeoisie. He deeply distrusted these old elites. The majority of capable officers were either killed, send to Gulags or exiled to Siberia. They were replaced by spineless opportunists who exemplarily internalized the new ideology, Communism, and the rule of the Communist Party. Political commissars were installed at all command levels, traitors were suspected everywhere.

What I read in the article: Putin is doing the same thing with the Russian police. Police activity is becoming increasingly selective, unfair and openly overwhelmed. Citizens loose trust in such a police force. Police officers who support or just have contact with political opposition members (e.g. Navalny's group) will be fired, regardless of rank or qualifications. Officers have to deny an own opinion. Absolute loyalty is expected while payment is bad. This will affect the police as drastically as Stalin's Great Purge destroyed the effectiveness of the Red Army. Then: incompetent, idiotic officers replaced former ones at all levels. Now: Experienced police officers who just want to get out.

How do they plan to contain any unrest that may arise? Putin is protected by the Rosgvardiya, his loyal 340,000-strong force. Are they alone able to contain social unrest in this vast country with its huge distances and very thin transport infrastructure? How stupid is that?
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Message 2126410 - Posted: 3 Oct 2023, 21:34:52 UTC

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Message 2126545 - Posted: 6 Oct 2023, 16:19:57 UTC
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Stumbled across:

There's the interesting fact that the Autonomous Republic of Tuva (Central Asia) within the Russian Federation, home of Russia's Secretary of Defense, Shoigu was until 1911 part of the Chinese Empire (Qing dynasty). USSR formally annexed Tuva only in 1944. The history of Tuva between separation from China until annexation by USSR seems like a deja-vu to the events in Ukraine in the past 10...20 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuva
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The official languages are Tuvan (Turkic) and Russian (Slavic). Outside [the capital] settlements have few if any Russian inhabitants and, in general, Tuvans use their original language as their first language.

From 1758 to 1911, Tuva was part of China's Qing dynasty [...] During the Xinhai Revolution in China, Tsarist Russia formed a separatist movement among the Tuvans while there were also pro-independence and pro-Mongol groups. Tsar Nicholas II agreed to [...] petition by Tuva's leadership in 1912, establishing a protectorate [...]. Some Russians, such as merchants, travellers, and explorers, had already settled in Tuva [...]. Tuva became nominally independent [...] before being turned into a Russian protectorate [...] under Tsar Nicholas II, on 17 Apr 1914. Tuva was occupied from 5 July 1918 to 15 July 1919 by [...] White Russian troops. [...] In the autumn of 1918, the southwestern part was occupied by Chinese troops and the southern part by Mongol troops [...]. From July 1919 to Feb 1920, the communist Red Army controlled Tuva but from 19 Feb 1920 to June 1921 it was occupied by China [...] On 14 Aug 1921, the Bolsheviks established the Tuvan People's Republic, popularly called Tannu-Tuva. In 1926, the capital (Belotsarsk; Khem-Beldyr since 1918) was renamed Kyzyl, meaning "red". The Tuvan People's Republic was de jure an independent state between the World Wars. The state's ruler, Chairman Donduk Kuular, sought to strengthen ties with Mongolia and establish Buddhism as the state religion. This unsettled the Soviet Union, which orchestrated a coup carried out in 1929 by five young Tuvan graduates of Moscow's Communist University [...]. In 1930, the pro-Soviet regime discarded the state's Mongol script in favor of a Latin alphabet designed for Tuva by Russian linguists. In 1943, Cyrillic script replaced Latin. Under the leadership of Party Secretary [...], ethnic Russians were granted full citizenship rights and Buddhist and Mongol influences on the Tuvan state and society were systematically curtailed. Tuva was annexed by the Soviet Union in 1944, with the approval of Tuva's Little Khural (parliament), but without a referendum on the issue. It became the Tuvan Autonomous Oblast, within the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, after the Soviet victory in World War II.
Then there's the population development in Tuva until today:

The population distribution in Tuva in the 1950s was 40% Russian, only 60% Tuvan (source: table). The Tsars and Stalin settled as many Russians as possible in distant parts of the Russian Empire/USSR inhabited by non-Russians (same policy in the Baltics after WW2). After the collapse of the Soviet Union, two thirds of Russians left Tuva, while the number of Tuvinians has tripled since 1960. In contrast to Russians Tuvinians have high birth rates of 2 ... 3 ... 3.5 (source: table). By 2021, the proportion of Russians in Tuva district had fallen to 11%, with Tuvinians making up 88%.

Perhaps part of the motivation for Putin's Russia's war against Ukraine is also to solve the demographic problems within Russia. If Russian women refuse to give birth to more Russian children, then the number of other nationalities within Russia will have to be reduced ... before Russians are no longer the master of the entire 'Russian house'. So the surplus Tuvinians, Buryats, ... are sent into meaningless assaults, into the meat grinder in Ukraine. Maybe that's not idiotic, but intentional.

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Data sources:
- "Demoskop Weekly" --- demographic online journal (data from 2010) [in Russian]. Dropdown menu allows to choose any of Russian Federation's (RF) districts (oblasts). "Respublika Tuva"[*] is roughly at two thirds of the list:

Preselected for Tuvan Republic (reg 67):
http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/ssp/rus_etn_10.php?reg=67

Table contains rows for the different nations (e.g. Russians, Ukrainians, Tuvinians, ...) within the RF. Column groups distinguish between urban ('gorodskoye'), rural ('selchskoye') and total number of residents. Each of the three groups is further broken down into men ('mushiny'), women ('shenchtchiny'), and both sexes ('oba pola').

Latest demographic data of RF (from 2020); same table layout, separate tables (tabs) for each of RF's districts (oblasts):
(no link because of MS Excel file format)
https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediabank/Tom5_tab1_VPN-2020.xlsx

[*] It's not possible to post cyrillic letters here. Forum software rejects them. I don't know how to correctly transliterate cyrillic letters into latin letters with English pronounciation.
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Message 2126550 - Posted: 6 Oct 2023, 17:51:00 UTC - in response to Message 2126545.  

The official languages are Tuvan (Turkic) and Russian (Slavic). Outside [the capital] settlements have few if any Russian inhabitants and, in general, Tuvans use their original language as their first language.
Somebody may call the Sultan of Istanbul, Mr. Erdogan? There are oppressed turkic people not far away. He has just finished helping his Turkic brothers in Azerbaijan to liberate its Nagorno-Karabakh province from Russia's military protection... So the Sultan now has time for further projects.
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Message 2126592 - Posted: 7 Oct 2023, 17:21:29 UTC
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Thanks for that summary.

Yes... It's the same old politics and conquests but with modern day weapons by modern day despots...

And China is patiently watching and waiting and building up to take their bites to further expand the ego of their despot...


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Message 2127945 - Posted: 3 Nov 2023, 23:18:34 UTC

Will the real PooTin step forward, if you can.

PooTin Body-Double Claims Analyzed by Facial Recognition Experts

He likes to be seated at the other end of a very long table for a reason and you can bet your bottom dollar that doubles take over where getting close to crowds is required.

It's also very obvious that sometimes the doubles get their clothes mixed up as why do some look too short or too long at times, or are they just trying to fit into PooTin's old castoffs?
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Message 2128261 - Posted: 9 Nov 2023, 23:33:36 UTC

The question about PooTin and body doubles just keeps on growing.

PooTin's Face in Viral Video Raises Questions.

PooTin Struggling to Pronounce Ally Leader's Name Raises Eyebrows.

Or is there an even bigger problem?

PooTin's Antarctica Ice Question Perplexes Officials: Video.

Has he lost his balance and slipped down the stairs again giving him concussion? Parkinson's has these results.
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Message 2128288 - Posted: 10 Nov 2023, 10:32:59 UTC - in response to Message 2128261.  

PooTin Struggling to Pronounce Ally Leader's Name Raises Eyebrows.
An ally? Putin can't bet on that. Kazakhstan clearly criticised Russia for its against Ukraine. They refrain from supplying Russia with armor or ammunition. Recently, Kazakhstan even supported measures to prevent Russia from circumventing sanctions. Kazakhstan carefully maintains its good relations with Russia as all former (and weak) Central Asian dominions of USSR do. But Kazakhstan develops resilient ties to Europe and almost submits to China.

It happened repeatedly in the past, that Putin completely mispronounced the Kazakh leader's name. It's not so difficult to learn the names of your neighbouring countries' leaders. Isn't it? Takes half an hour? Some see this as a deliberate humiliation, a flouting treatment of the former dominion by the colonial master. In the USSR, Kazakh surnames were forcibly russified. No longer today. Kazakhstan also replaced Cyrillic script with Latin one. Kazakh (a Turkic language) has long been promoted the national language again. Extensive educational programs push back the omnipresence of Russian language, despite the many native Russians living in Northern Kazakhstan, who settle (rather were placed) there since Tsars conquered these territories. If it weren't for China, I fear Russia would treat Kazakhstan like Ukraine. But luckily, Kazakhstan is the centerpiece of all Chinese plans for transport axes and trade flows between Central Asia and Europe (bypassing Russia). It's an unvisible shield deterring Russia.
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Message 2128290 - Posted: 10 Nov 2023, 11:44:56 UTC - in response to Message 2128261.  

PooTin's Antarctica Ice Question Perplexes Officials: Video.

Has he lost his balance and slipped down the stairs again giving him concussion? Parkinson's has these results.
from article above:
The Kremlin has insisted Putin is in good health, but the slip-up sparked rumors that he could have dementia.
Hah... He fits perfectly into the ranks of his predecessors. Many were seriously ill for years, some no longer able to speak or attend public meetings in their last year in office until their death: Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko. Even Yeltsin... in the end a drunken senile clown. The Soviet-Russian gerontocracy. History repeats.
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Message 2128933 - Posted: 23 Nov 2023, 19:52:08 UTC

How will PooTin deal with this?

40-year-old single mother to challenge Vladimir Putin in 2024 election after claiming Russia is on path to ‘self-destruction’.

A young Russian journalist has pledged to take the fight to Vladimir Putin in next year’s presidential election, calling for the nation to restore international relations and cease the conflict in Ukraine.

Ekaterina Duntsova, a 40-year-old single mother and local politician, has made daring comments against the status quo in Russia and wants to challenge Putin as commander-in-chief despite the risks.

“Why did I make this decision? I love our country, I want Russia to be a thriving, democratic and peaceful state. But right now our country is moving in a completely different direction,” she said in her announcement....
In his usual ways or will he try something new?
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Message 2129009 - Posted: 25 Nov 2023, 2:22:07 UTC - in response to Message 2128933.  

In his usual ways or will he try something new?
something new... She will disappear...... under a heavy truck..... or... falling down a damaged sewer cover... But maybe the usual way.... 10th floor window on Putin's birthday.
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Message 2129165 - Posted: 28 Nov 2023, 18:52:23 UTC
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Putin weaponises migration:


Finland to close entire Russian border after migrant surge


That is quite a move... Usually... What comes next is...

Meanwhile, from the almost complete lack of mainstream news about Ukraine, Putin has benefited greatly with the deadly distraction around Gaza...

How shallow and trivial the mainstream news channels are!...


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